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Franklin June 13th, 2002 04:51 PM

very few downloads connect
 
I love the interface. But like numerous others here, I'm having troubles downloading files. (I'm using a G3 Powerbook running Mac OS 8.6, Limewire Pro 2.4, connected via DSL at 384/128 -- though actual tests using sfo.speakeasy.com say my download speed is over a megabit per second).

Searches come back quickly. On the connections tab, I usually get three hosts right off. But 99 percent of the files I try to download fail to even establish a connection, and those few that do usually come in at a crawl, even though most are posted as having broadband connections. :confused:

Treatid June 13th, 2002 11:33 PM

A broadband connection gets pretty narrow when it is shared with a hundred other people. The chances of you being the only person downloading from someone with a broadband connection are fairly remote - so you only get a small slice of their upload bandwidth and hence it comes in at a crawl - nothing wrong here.

Morpheus has just released a new version - I think this may be having an adverse affect on the network as a whole (although it is undoubtedly an improvement for morpheus users).

Mark

Franklin June 14th, 2002 08:36 AM

re:very few downloads
 
So, you're saying there's nothing wrong with my Limewire configuration or anything and there's nothing to do about it--Limewire and the Gnutella net are just over-busy and I should accept that 1 out of 50 requested files actually come in? That woud mean accepting that Limewire and the Gnutella are fairly worthless. Is that what you mean for me to accept?

efield June 14th, 2002 02:05 PM

Also keep in mind that many college students are no longer on campus sharing files over fast symmetric connections. Home broadband typically is not symmetric, that is upload speed is many times less than download speed. If you're one of many trying to get a file from one of them, the already low upload speed is divided into very small pieces. Downloading from a true T1 line or a SDSL (symmetric) connection would give you better rates.

Unregistered June 30th, 2002 03:34 PM

well, umm-kay...I read over the initial complaint, which I share, and all of the responses-YET I DO NOT SEE A SOLUTION. You guys want people to spend their money on a program that cannot even download but 1 out of 50 downloads requested? Then all the response anyone gets is just a load of pol-a-tikin' bull from some computer freak who can quickly describe the technicalities of the problem, yet CANNOT SEEM TO FIX ****. Man, I am so tired of living in 2002 where everything is on these MODEL-T computers and everybody thinks that we're all so advanced. Bullshit. OH and while I'm letting loose of how I really feel: **** MACINTOSH, they are nothing but a ridiculous dream that has turned into my nightmare.

roberts June 30th, 2002 03:55 PM

So, what I'm hearing is a bunch of complaints, but no real solutions! Sounds like those programmers that spent a bunch of years developing Limewire, wound up with a LEMON! I don't see any real viable solutions to any of the problems as I scan through this gripe board. I'm beginning to wonder if I should try another program???

Franklin July 1st, 2002 12:29 AM

things improve with osx and a G4 800
 
Can't say why exactly, but having just purchased Apple's latest notebook, the G4 800 running OS X and having installed the Limewire for OS X, I'm actually getting much better results. Can't say why exactly, but I'm very happy with what I'm getting now. Thanks Limewire. Hope you can fix the problems with the older versions for all the rest of the network. :)

Unregistered July 1st, 2002 10:21 AM

Has nothing to do with computer
 
I'm doing just fine with my little home grown 300 mhz PC. Downloaded tons over the weekend through my SBC DSL connection!

Jay

Unregistered July 2nd, 2002 08:11 PM

Im running a 1.2 ghz processor, and my internet connection is fine. I am also having the same problems. At first i thought that it was a bug designed so you would have to by the software, but after buying the software i relized that that was not the case. Im sorry but my 10 bucks could have been used to by a case of beer and a box of condoms

ajutagir July 3rd, 2002 06:43 AM

With regard to your download problems, try downloading from four star results with fast connections printed in green. This may help you find better sources for download.

A72CUTLAS July 3rd, 2002 05:56 PM

I have a 1.2ghz athlon with sbc dsl line and am having the same download problem thats stated above. It seems that no one has a problem d/l'ing from me because my files are being picked clean, but even though I only choose 4 star files from broadband users printed in green, I still get the "requery sent..." message for days on end before they even start to d/l. And even then its not a continuous d/l; it may take a week to get a whole file, and I paid for the pro version! If this is the best there is, then i'm going to miss Audiogalaxy more than I thought.

bobomon July 3rd, 2002 06:20 PM

I don't think the problem is Limewire - I am using Limewire, Shareaza and Bearshare and experience similar results with all - I have used WinMX and Moprheus in the past and again similar results. I think it is the nature of the beast - you are at the mercy of the 'other guys connection speed and how busy their system is. Limewire's requery is simply another way to try and get a file that is not immediately available.

ajutagir July 3rd, 2002 06:27 PM

Hi,

In Audiogalaxy, you would request a file through a website, and audiogalaxy would arrange to have it sent to you. This is not how Gnutella functions. If you request a file through LimeWire, you are requesting it directly from another computer. If that computer is unavailable for some reason, it may be impossible to complete the download. Since only about a quarter of files on the network are currently hashed, it can be difficult to find a replacement on a requery. If a download request fails, you'll probably need to select another download source, or perhaps even repeat the search.
In many ways this difference can be an advantage. If you don't like your download speed, you can try downloading from a faster computer since you have better control over file transfers.

Good luck!

Avi

DarkMagess July 5th, 2002 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bobomon
I don't think the problem is Limewire - I am using Limewire, Shareaza and Bearshare and experience similar results with all - I have used WinMX and Moprheus in the past and again similar results. I think it is the nature of the beast - you are at the mercy of the 'other guys connection speed and how busy their system is. Limewire's requery is simply another way to try and get a file that is not immediately available.
Another program you might want to try is edonkey2000 It's a stupid name for a program, but I seem to get better results, atleast in finding and downloading TV show episodes. The most annoying thing is that you can have only part of a file and someone can download that part from you, so you'll be sharing a file that you can't even see yet because you don't have all of it. It still takes a long time to get files sometimes, but the more networks you try, perhaps the better your chances of getting the things you want.

Unregistered July 5th, 2002 02:59 PM

morpheus
 
I believe that the core of the first message in this thread is that limewire is not downloading properly. No one has explained to this person that the current most likely suspect is morpheus in his connections tab. By constantly removing all conections that are not limewire, your number of hosts will go up as well as shared files. This will increase your chances of getting the file you want. Also, by manually entering 6 on the number of connections window at the bottom, you will further increase your connections. Remember to open your stats window by clicking the tools tab so that you can keep track of this. You must constantly remove morpheus and other non-limewire ultrapeers because they are a cancer in the system. Morpheus and gnucles take, but do not give. Worse, the kill your hosts so that you can find nothing. I have posted several questions over the past week asking the limewire developers "where is the fix" for this problem with no response. It is apparent that they either dont know how to fix it or worse, know how and choose not to. I think we shold be told the truth.

Unregistered July 5th, 2002 05:29 PM

Right. Thanks for the reply. You are the first person to resopnd to my many postings. I am afraid that the limewire people have some economic interest in not providing us with a filter or some other way to block the morpheus connections. Why , for example, is there a preference choice for selecting how many shared files before someone is concidered a freeloader, but no way to block an ultrapeer with all of these problems?
There is a reason, we just havent figured it out yet. Somthing in someones business plan needs these morphesus leeches down the road....
Cant trust the large corps ("worldcon", "endrun")cant trust the government, cant trust the church and now..........


fscott.

Unregistered July 6th, 2002 11:23 AM

Re: morpheus
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Also, by manually entering 6 on the number of connections window at the bottom, you will further increase your connections. Remember to open your stats window by clicking the tools tab so that you can keep track of this. You must constantly remove morpheus and other non-limewire ultrapeers because they are a cancer in the system. Morpheus and gnucles take, but do not give. Worse, the kill your hosts so that you can find nothing. I have posted several questions over the past week asking the limewire developers "where is the fix" for this problem with no response. It is apparent that they either dont know how to fix it or worse, know how and choose not to. I think we shold be told the truth.
When I try to change the # of connections it tells me that it can't do that. It was on 4, I hit 6, it said that that would clog the system and then set it to 3. And now I can't set it to anything higher than 3.

ajutagir July 8th, 2002 07:03 AM

The number of connections you can establish depends on the your connection speed.

-Avi

ajutagir July 9th, 2002 06:40 AM

Of course not! LimeWire just prevents computers from making an unreasonable number of connection requests for their connection speed. For example a modem user cannot make more than four connections. And why should he? It would clog the network. The reason that you are getting so many morpheus connections in your tab is that there are many more Morphues clients on the network than anything else right now. LimeWire is working on techniques to improve connection performance.

Avi

fluidx July 9th, 2002 10:04 PM

limewire virus?
 
I'm glad I decided to come here, the info has been very helpful. I also have found it almost impossible to download anything lately. My PC friends on
Audio Galaxy say all is fine on their end. I also have noticed one IP address downloading numerous copies of the same song and have been monitoring this and deleting the extra copies.

I took the advice here and deleted all foreign connections - suddenly things worked as they used to. However since this trouble has started, I have found that I lose the face of my Limewire, where everything goes blank and I have to keep clicking around...sometimes things will appear but they disappear again. I have to quit out and reopen application. I suspect this happens when I click on the Monitor section, but can't say for sure. Has anyone else experienced this?

thanks,

F

ajutagir July 10th, 2002 06:53 AM

I recommend you uninstall LimeWire and Java then reinstall the Latest version of Java and LimeWire.

Unregistered July 11th, 2002 07:49 PM

BULLSHIT AVI!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ajutagir
With regard to your download problems, try downloading from four star results with fast connections printed in green. This may help you find better sources for download.

I've been selecting only 4star results and supposed T1&T3 sources for 3 days now trying to get files ranging from 1KB to 400MB, music to program files. Using TWO broadband connections (a cable modem at home running approx. 1Mb on average and very stable, the other a 1/2 T1 Symmetrical connection from a business telco!!!!). Downloads crawl on both and VERY frequently get the stupid 'requery' messages immediately after selecting a file from search results.

Give me a break! This SUCKS!!!!

Time for a good old-fashioned BBS!!!!!!!!! At least then the files would download. Now that I think about it, they downloaded faster than the damn LimeWire system does!!!

ajutagir July 12th, 2002 06:27 AM

Bummer.


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