Very unhappy with limewire
 

I just joined the Limewire users the other day by upgrading to Limewire Pro. I thought when I upgraded, I would have better luck with dowloading music; this is not the case. When I get connected, after about 20 or so tries, I search for songs. When I search for an artist, like The ****, I only recieve about 13 songs, most of which aren't even correct. I am very positive that with over 20 albums someone, anyone, must have some songs able to be shared on this system. I want to know what service it is that I paid for, because right now I am getting next to nothing.

Jackie w.

new problem
 

...after finally getting connected and miraculously finding 4 songs I can deal with, I wait for the downloading to begin (Requery Sent, Waiting for 237s for Results-this is apparently nothing new)-I minimize limewire to do something else because it is taking so long, I scan over the icon and it says I am disconnected from the network, even though when I maximize Limewire the little green dot is on and it tells me that I am connected. I am thoroughly disgusted right now.

I am glad that i didn't deside to buy this. Now after trying it for a few days or so and discovered that this is crap.. Unfortunately this is the only place to find applicatons and stuff. For music , -if you have PC - try WinMX or Kaza lite.
That works much better than this.
Hope to find a better solution for macs soon.
This system has slowed my mac down - it eats memory. After a few tries all the files that downloads - ends up "could not move to library" - so what's that point of being here. Or it stays in queue. I used to leave my computer on during the night or day when i go to work. When I get home.. if i am lucky - i have got one or two small small files of 20 k's or something... (that is lucky) Mostly... nothing in "complete-folder"
You can't see how many that are downloading the same files..
You can't see how and what exact they are downloading from you. I guess the numbers and searchings are thru the whole network.
You don't get the files anyway - if you do... that was probably a mistake :-)
It is very very slow
Some files are better found at the original place.. like updates and stuff - try the manufacturer - they do have a lot to share.

I hope that LimeWire gets better in the future... But now i guess i will uninstall this ****.

very unhappy with Limewire
 

I have read other replies and I agree with them all. I either get up to 96% and it goes into requery or I get a corrupted file. I am not fortunate to have a dsl or cable line and I appreciate the fact that this is free but it really gets to be a pain when you click on several songs hoping to connect to just one and then whey you do connect, it takes more than an hour and then it quits. The thing that makes me more unhappy than anything are the corrupted files that I have been getting and I know it is not my computer!! I use Kazaa also and it's just as bad. I do realize that we all are competing with over 7 million users and that is a lot but I sure hope you can improve the quality of the songs you are putting on the net. I will stay for a while and keep hoping that things will improve!!

LIMEWIRE REALLY DOES SUCK
 

I cant even run it anymore, after trying to install it for half an hour i get a 1607: runtime error, and i haven't got any good help here in these forums. I have windows, so i switched to shareaza... Gnutella-2 network!!! 50 kb/second....15 minutes for a 6-7 megabite song... Shareaza rules!!!!!!!:D

thoroughly disgusted because the tooltip is mistakenly saying you are disconnected? heh I know there is more to it than that..
oh man.. LimeWire does not put any songs on the net. Do you have any idea what sort of trouble that would get them in.. The only people who put songs on the net are users like you. LimeWire has no control over that. That just needed to be said

and could we all plesae stop calling the shareaza network gnutella2 :D

I guess the "you"-person is all the people who share music here.. 'YOU, ME and all the rest here..

If you find a song that are bad quality.. throw it away and don't "send it out onthe net again"... and the same for all programs that doesn't work because they miss something.
I have downloaded a lot of programs from everywhere and sometimes it takes a while before i check them... but if they are bad.. i throw them. Hopefully others will throw their bad files too.. and don't let them out on the net again...

My sad story...
 

After 3 hours and 28 minutes my 41,650k file was 99% complete and then "Requery....." When I finally reconnected, it cleared everything out and started over at 0. I checked the "Incompete" library and I had downloaded 41,602k out of 41,650, over three hours, and then it was all gone. Beautiful.

I don't know what you did to "reconnect" but what probably happened is, that there are two files with the same filename but different SHA-1 hashes, - since those files differ (although it might be just one byte that is different) LimeWire will create a new incomplete file for the second file and start at zero again. If it encounters the first file again, it will continue the first download at 99%.

Another possible explanation (if you killed it and resumed it for example) is that you messed the download up and LimeWire "forgot" about the original incomplete file.

We do know how the downloading works..

We are trying to find out ways to fool the program since it continues to do this "Cannot move to library" and other strange things.
We are trying to fool it by "Quit downloading this file" and "try again" to download it...
But everything we try ends up like normal. We can't have the file.

WE/I are also missing a lot of funktions on this Limewire program and we hope that the developer wakes up one day and fixe this problems.
We (I) also want to know "how long is the queue on THAT file" we (I) are trying to download...
We (I) want to see WHo is Downloading what from OUR (mine) harddisks.. We (I) don't want to see what everyone are downloading from everyone else...
And we (I) do want this Cannot move to Librarry thing fixed.. WE don't like spending hours of downloading just to have the file ending up "Cannot move to library). If the file isn't complete.. we would like to be able to download it completely or that we ourselves can move it to the right folder... not just disappearing to somewhere

/Sussi

That's not yet part of the queueing protocol but it has been discussed on the gdf.

What do you expect? Name, location, social insurance number??? In my opinion, the IP is more than enough and if you want to know more about the people downloading from you, you can still chat with them ot browse their hosts.

If the file can't be moved to the Library, the incomplete file should remain in your incomplete folder so you can copy it manually.

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What do you expect? Name, location, social insurance number??? In my opinion, the IP is more than enough and if you want to know more about the people downloading from you, you can still chat with them ot browse their hosts.
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No. At least the loginname - as here in the forum.. Then you at least see cadman344234 downloading file "Kiss me" and see how long he has downloading the file and maybe the speed... Like WinMX. If i want to chat with that one - i just click on the name and selects chat.. Or i can see what that guy has on his harddisk - if ther is anything i like to download from him

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If the file can't be moved to the Library, the incomplete file should remain in your incomplete folder so you can copy it manually.
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No, It is not there. We all have looked there (the first place to look)... and the downloaded file isn't there.... so it is impossible to move that file then. Maybe there could be anohter file with similiar name - but not that much downloaded..

I'm not using v2.8.6 anymore but it should be already possible to see how long he has been downloading in 2.8.6, to chat and to browse his hard disk. LW 3.0 definitely has tooltips that show some information about the downloader.

Chatting however is not always easy without central server so you can't chat with all the people downloading from you (especially not NAT'ed people).

Then you must be using a Mac. On a PC LimeWire seems to leave the incomplete file in the incomplete directory when the couldn't move to library error occurs at the end of the download. I already submitted a patch to the LimeWire team that fixes those errors (at least on windows and linux but it should also work for Macs) but it has not been released yet. (LW 3.0 should be released in a month or so.)

Yes I am using a mac.

The latest version available is 2.8.6 and i got it. But it is good to hear about somethingnew that seems to work. Hope it comes soon. Until then i guess i won't be downloading anything. Seems so useless to try.

unhappy
 

I downloaded LimewirePro to my mac and am STILL very unhappy with it. Seems there's no one out there to talk to... I even reported a notification that I have a bug but no one responded. Limewire is a waste of time (and the money I spent upgrading). It should be called 'lemonwire' instead...

of course you are not satisfied with this LimeWire. I stopped loading from this a time ago... it eats memory and it is slow and you don't ge4t any files anyway... If you get some files.. most of them ends up "cannot move to library" and you don't have the files anyway.
I think this stinks too. I have also tried to write and report this problem.. The email - help@limewire.com address (or what it was).. doesn't work anyway.

But i heard it will come an update soon... Hope that the new update will work anyway.
As far as i know this limewire-**** is the only thing for macs... For pc:s there are many different kind of workign networks.. (WinMX, Gnucuelus ??, Kazaa and so on)....

Of course - there might be some underground networks but i think many of them are very strange and hard to find out what to do and also to find them...

/Sussi

concure
 

such a decent looking app that is 90% useless - and really more than that for the amount of time wasted and the inability to contact anyone directly- that is tantamount to a sin. Doesn't this stuff come with Aldadins 10 for 10 - seems like someone should own up. Maybe the record industry is holding the programmers hostage. Maybe we should send out a search party. Another thing that doesn't work on my version- the chat function- I know I feel like I am in jail. Nice ideas as far as functions and features are concerned- browsing host etc. Hey does anyone know how to take an address from Lime and "plug" it into like Aquisition? Then I would save LIme for the just for search functions

Thanks for the email. I replied to Sussi by mistake. See what Limewire does? Befuddles the brain...Limewire is ****

EVERYBODY JUST SWITCH TO BEARSHARE
 

I CHECKED OUT BEARSHARE AND ITS BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE OUT THERE!!! With over 4 million user's there is plenty of sources, and the best part is that the searches actually come up with results!!!
Get away from LIMEWIRE its a waste of your time, and if you have a slow CPU you know it takes foreever to load!!!! I have got over 100 songs off bearshare off my 56 k modem in the last week! Every one of them does not skip either!!! Start enjoying music again with BEARSHARE, just make sure you share your files and it will be fine!!!

SHAREAZA does use a different protocol which runs along side the gnutella 1 network!!! It is called GNUTELLA 2!!

Hi Trance999 thanks for the advice. Now comes the question: will it work for the mac? I'll go on line and find out. If it's that good for your 56k modem, it'll be amazing for my high speed cable. Here's hoping. Thanks again. Will let you know.

EMAIL ME-Don'tpostyouremailaddress@yahoo.com
 

I Dont know but that would be great if it did, write to me with your e-mail addres and i tell you if i find anything...k

Nope - it's no good for a mac. I just sent you an email - hope you get it.

I'm using the 2.8.6 version of limewire (latest available when I d/l'd), under windoze 2K SP3, and it craps out in the middle of downloads, randomly, with "Could Not Move to Library", and the progress shows 100% (incorrectly)

:rolleyes:

Apparently LW cannot compare the file size of the incomplete file with the size of a complete version of the file, although, if you "Kill" the download, and go to the incomplete part of the Library, and click Resume, it restarts at the correct percentage, so why it jumps to 100% is beyond me?

"Could Not Move to Library" :rolleyes:
should be changed to:
"Download Failed - Unknown ERROR!" ;)

and should not set the progress bar to 100%

That is all I ask, I love the smooth user interface, and can live with the slowness and processor cycle consumption, for the sake of it being Java based...

but this whole "Could Not Move to Library" thing is bulls##t, the least they could do is make a note in the FAQ, because believe me, this will be one of the most FA Questions.

And for the record, my mate is using a Mac with OS x v10.2 and he has the same problem...

thanks for reading.

Not sure what windoze 2K SP3 is and unfortunately can't help as I don't have your problem. I agree Limewire is crap but we don't seem to have any choice. Have you changed your download directory? My computer behaved well after I had only one. If all fails, try feedback@limewire.com
Good luck.

IMPORTANT – Dissatisfied Limewire users
 

Everyone keeps whinging about bad connections, incomplete downloads etc etc. how many files do YOU have available to share? If you want everything to run well, get a good cpu, get broadband, leave your computer on all the time, share everything you can and... everything will be (well almost) fine. If you really can't find the music you want for free, try Ebay and buy the CD, they're cheap enough. If you still don't want to spend money, ***Warez violation***. BUT PLEASE if you are going to share files, please make sure they are not corrupt, they are decent quality, they are as described and they work!!!

From a HAPPY (well almost) User

╒════════════ ILLEGAL ACTIVITY ════════════╕

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Edited to comply with the House Rules.
Warez, copyright violation, or any other illegal activity may NOT be linked or expressed in any form.

Johnny-Amy - I'm also now a happy (almost) user. I was spoiled with Napster that had a massive international library. Limewire is really lame. However, it's better than nothing and there is improvement with 2.8.6. Unfortunately I have to turn the computer off sometimes when I'm running other programmes (not enough memory).

Re: Very unhappy with limewire
 

Hello!

I am using LimeWire 2.8.6 and Mac OS 9.1 and I am on a broadband connection(8Mbit/s VDSL) and for me LW works great.Lots of search results,fast downloads(most of the times).For me LW connects at the first attempt not 20.I just searched for the **** and it yielded 500 hits.But I have tryed LW on a standard 56K modem connection and it was a nightmare.Poor search results continued dropping of connections with other Ultrapeers(since the introduction of Gwebcache),Freezing of my computer everytime the connection to other hosts dropped.All of those problems is gone since I got broadband a week ago.So it seems like LimeWire is hostile to modem users these days!.

Re: new problem
 

Hello!

The Requery Sent message means that the situation is the following:

The host has recently turned off his/hers client and his/hers files are no longer available on the network for you to download.

The host you are trying to download from is a cheater and has set his/hers preferences to allow for 0 upload slots and no one will be able to download from that host.(this condition does not always result in the requery message sometimes you get into download status but continously stays at 0K)

You are both behind a Firewalled connection and on private subnetwork of IP addresses.

The host you are trying to download from are to busy and are using a bad client that do not report the busy status to you so that you get the busy signal or Waiting in Line signal.

The Requery Sent basically means that LimeWire will continue to search for the file in question but it will only do so for about once every 45 minutes.To speed this process up you should leave the file there in the download section and not kill it and then whenever you during a download process gets that message as soon as possible do a new manual search by using the exact search term as the file name in question and hopefully LW will see new hosts to download the same file and if that is the case it will download it from there(them) instead.

When you minimize the LW application to the System Tray it will take a minimum amount of resources but if you have downloads in progress they will continue and if people are uploading from you they will be allowed to do so untill they have finished.If you gets disconnected of the actuall network when it is in the System Tray I am not sure but I do know that if it is then LimeWire will imediatelly connect when you maximize it hence the green dot.

One thing that you should be aware of though is that even if you shut down LimeWire completely(File>Close) you will still be downloading files if you where in the progress of doing so and also people would still be uploading files from you if they where doing so before you shut it down untill they have finished downloading from you.If you want people to definetly not be able to download from you then you have to shut down your Internet connection or change this in LW preferences(Tools>Options>Shutdown) and here select the shut down immediatelly option then click apply then OK.

Hello!


Yes LW do eat memory but if you have plenty then that is not a problem.I would recommend the following System configuration in order for LimeWire to function well:

Mac OS 9.0 or later
Java applet reader MRJ 2.2.4(JRE1.1.8) or later and atleast 32MB of RAM assigned to it
320MB physical RAM(Virtual memory turned off)
Broadband connection 0.5Mbit/s or faster


The could not move to library issue sure is a strange one I have not encountered it ever and yeat I am using the latest version 2.8.6 for classical Mac OS.But most of those problems is supposed to have been solved in the next realese.

To see what other people are downloading from you do the following:

Under the Monitor tab uncheck the Enable check mark that lets you view incoming searches instead you should do the following:

Look after a couple of small blue arrow heads at the bottom left corner in the ribbed area of the incoming searches window and double click the arrow head that points upwards and a new window with all uploads and the ip numbers etc that are in progress will appear instead of the incoming search window.If you want to see all uploads that have been made from your computer even after they have finsished then you have to do the following:

Go to:

Tools>Options>Uploads>basic

and here deselect the Auto Clear completed Uploads then click Apply button then OK button and then shut down LimeWire and re launch it for the change to take effect and voila you can now see all uploads that have been made from your computer.

It is very slow?

No it is about as fast as other networks.How fast you will be able to download depends on how fast connection the person you are trying to download from have and also how busy it is.And also ofcourse the speed of your connection.

I just had to stop a minute to say a HUGE THANKS!! to Joakim Agren. This is among the first posters I have encountered who has given such intelligent advice in so clear and comprehensive a manner. Whoever is in charge of hiring moderators could do the entire LimeWire community a huge service by saying, "Come on board" to Joakim Agren.

It's a real pleasure to read advice presented so competently. It's a true irony that we need to depend on Sweden to give us our best dose of plain english to be heard on this board in a long time.

Hi, Joakim Agren or anyone else.
Maybe you can answer this question:
I did as you said and although many people try to download my files many have the message "file not found" or "transfer interrupted." I know they're all there because I checked and I'd like to share them.

Hello!

Thank you very much for your compliments!.

I always try to do my best when it comes to giving usefull and good computer support!.

The following 4 quotes are picked at random from previous postings on this site. They illustrate my and many others' frustration with the kind of 'help' provided all too often, by this board. The quotes are an abridgement of a multi-page dialogue between LeeWare and Trap_Jaw who appear to be in huge disagreement as to proper procedures for 'Maximizing LimeWire's Download/Upload Success...

QUOTES:

"However for people you just like to jump on the computer and actually accomplish download something this information is very valuable to them. Yes - I am suggesting that people block all of the people who don't now how to force IPs for use on Gnutella."

"Pong/Responses Recurse the Query path to find the the host that issued the query. If my machine is a NATed machine it will respond with the ip of my private net."

"in the cases where QoS is applied to P2P traffic the polocies tend to be strick which means that almost no-bandwidth is allocated to P2P traffic. So for instance anyone downloading or uploading on these connection can expect serious problems with the files tranfers. Take for instance a QoS polocies that says allow 4Kbps to P2P traffic means:"

"MP3 Size * BitRate = SizeInBit / QoSBitRateAllows = SecondsToDownload / MinutesToDownload = Download Time."

I, for one, have absolutely no idea what they are talking about and can guarantee neither speaks to the majority of LimeWire users. I'm sure they gain a certain fulfillment from showing their command of the lingo off, but most of us just want to be able to log-on, search for files and download; all the while allowing others to do the same with our files.

So... once again, thank you to Joakim Agren, for your grasp of this simple concept. If those in charge had the same grasp of the real and fundamental frustration level (made apparent by those of us actually using the program) they would save their high tech verbal jousting and begin the implementation of answers instead of rhetoric. My QueryPath as Recursed by my4Kbps to P2P Pong/Responses QoSBitRate is sure of it!

Hello!

The file not found issue has been around since I started using LW and there have never been any solution to it.It sure is a strange problem but fortunatelly most files are not affected by this.For my 6100 files only about 40 is affected.

The Transfer interrupted issue is also a strange bug but unlike the File Not Found issue this one is new.I am also affected by this and I am using LimeWire 2.8.6 for Classical Mac OS 9.1.I did not have that problem when I was using LimeWire 2.4.4.It seems to be related to the Gwebcache and swarmed downloads.I will have to get back to you on this isssue.I will contact the developers and see what they have to say about it and if they can fix it.

Joakim,
Hello, o-helpful-one! :D I read a post a few days ago (though I can't seem to locate it by searching for it) about File Not Found. No, as you said, there is no solution, but an explanation given goes something like this:

If I begin downloading file "XYZ.mp3" from you and it doesn't complete, it is still in my download queue. Then you change the name to "ZYX.mp3" or delete/move it. Next time I run LimeWire, it will try to connect to you again, but it is looking for "XYZ.mp3" which is no longer there. You will see the "File Not Found" message in your Upload queue. Not sure what I will see on my end, though. Maybe the never-ending "Requery" message?

Anyway, just my two cents on this issue...;)

You are awesome, by the way, with all your detail!

:cool:

Oh oh - I just wrote that I didn't understand much of what joakim wrote. I'll go stand in the corner...

in the future, limewire will communicate with other limewires as often as possible without actually exchanging the real filename. instead, they will use 'hashes' of the file. this way, someone could start downloading file XYZ.doc, stop downloading, have the other end rename the file (but not change it at all!) to ZYX.doc, and the first person will still be able to resume the download, keeping the original name they wanted.

there are also many improvements (again thanks to trap_jaw) that will fix most (if not all) of the 'could not move to library' bugs. limewire will now attempt to replace bad characters with a '_' and cap the length of the filename, instead of dying whenever it encounters a name that is bad. also, it will stick with the name you chose when you clicked 'download' instead of possibly changing it midway through.

i'm not sure where you're seeing transfer interrupted. that's only on the upload window, not the download window. and that generally just means the person uploading from you decided they didn't want the file anymore.

hej,du verkar ju kunna det här.
jag har haft god nytta och inga problem med limewire förut,men nu har jag gjort en omformattering av min mac,och kan inte öppna programmet efter ominstallation.datorn frågar om vilket program jag vill öppna i.
och symbolen visar enbart en stickkontakt.
sen händer inget mer.

I have had god use of limewire a wile.
but after a omformatted disk and a newinstallation,I cant open the program.my mac just asks me,what program I whant to open in.the limewiresymbol is just a contact.
nothing happens.

Windoze is just my slang for Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional Service Pack 3 (windoze 2K SP3)

I've got only one shared/download folder:
(C:\Program Files\LimeWire\Shared)

I'm not sure what the probelem is, but it's irritating...

thanksfor reading
:confused:

sberlin
Thanks. I just saw the post about "file not found". I just wonder if it affects uploaders.

Limewire Staff
 

Has anyone else noticed that there is never a response from anyone on the Slimewire staff? Most people responding are computer geeks (plz be aware I use term in non insulting manner) offering advice that they "think" is correct, yet Swinewire staff remains strangely silent on all topics with the exception of cash offers. Why is this? RIAA maybe? Confound and confuse all on gnutella systems maybe? What happened to my other negative posts? Is Jackie related to that famous Bruin, Ed? What color are my undies? Why did I become a Lumberjack? What is my name? How did I get here? Who owns this beautiful house? whose is this beautiful wife? must remember medication...................toodles for now fellow revolutionaries. Viva La' Mardi Gras!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool: :cool: :cool:

*What about sberlin? isn't he LimeWire staff?

OK--I'll bite. Yeah, I noticed too. Once I realized that my expectations were a pompous presumption, I learned to appreciate the open community nature of gnutella.

$10 gets you about 5 minutes of first level support. The help here is free and once I learned how to use the search button, I realized what an intolerable ignoramus I can be. Learning how to read these posts helps: the "thinkers" have often given me some good advice, and taught me to realize who the "knowers" are.

Good luck getting beyond vent. Hope you can help someone someday.

motrhed3 - you are right. I've had 4 messages saying I have a bug and to report same to bugs@limewire.com - no response other than from a technician saying I was yelling because I wrote in capital letters and if I did that again I would get no help. Well, I STILL have no response from bugs...
I also wrote to the CEO and some other shm..cks at Limewire- no response.

'file not found' only effects the uploads also. it means that someone sent a request for a specific file index (every shared file is given a certain index) but gave the wrong filename for that index. there's two reasons this can happen: one is because the person who is serving the file happened to hit 'refresh' in the library, causing limewire to reorganize its library. the other is because there's a problem with the person sending the request -- it got confused somehow.

like i mentioned earlier with the XYZ.doc and ZYX.doc answer, limewire doesn't use index or filenames anymore when it doesn't have to -- it uses the unique hash of the file (when it can), which means that even if someone hits refresh and the library is reorganized, the request will still work. it also lowers the chance of buggy requests, because all you have to keep track of is the hash, not the name and index.