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Jason Wiech September 10th, 2003 12:36 AM

All I get is "NEED MORE SOURCES" I can't download anything! Why??
 
All I get is "NEED MORE SOURCES" when i try downloading any form of media at any time of day. Why do I keep getting this? As Is i can't use limewire for anything!!

MadMacianManiac September 16th, 2003 07:18 AM

Need More Sources?!
 
I have the same problem, every time I get the same stupid message: NEED MORE SOURCES! Is there anyone who knows the reason for that?

sberlin September 16th, 2003 07:50 AM

Try clicking the button conveniently labelled "Find More Sources"

raffy31 September 17th, 2003 03:56 AM

try a different way
 
i noticed it happens to me when it's a **** or at the top of the list...
try to search the same subject at the bottom of the list or maybe one not so "perfect " (try a modem connection, it's much slower but there's no traffic)

the"find more sources" never worked for me. maybe i haven't be patient enough.

hope you'll make it

MadMacianManiac September 17th, 2003 11:38 PM

the button thing works :)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sberlin
Try clicking the button conveniently labelled "Find More Sources"
Yep. That's it! I've never noticed this button before, it works!
Thank you!

Sonoman September 24th, 2003 02:25 PM

Need more sources/find more sources/awaiting sources!!!!!
 
This is the sequence I get.
Since I've updated to 3.5.8 Pro,I haven't got d/ls anymore.
Very frustrating to do a bad choice and decide to pay for a licence of a non workin' software.And when you ,naturally,complain about it,some software developer hurted in his ego tells you that is not possible that some people has so many problems with the app.beacause millions of other users dont have such.
Frustrating.:confused:

ECweird09 October 9th, 2003 02:01 PM

I clicked the buton that says find more sources and it says AWAITING SOURCES and it stays there

Sonoman October 9th, 2003 03:04 PM

Definitively Drumbeat
 
Try Drumbeat.
It works better to me.

Rainbow Girl October 15th, 2003 11:00 PM

Re: All I get is "NEED MORE SOURCES" I can't download anything! Why??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Jason Wiech
All I get is "NEED MORE SOURCES" when i try downloading any form of media at any time of day. Why do I keep getting this? As Is i can't use limewire for anything!!
I agree!! It happens to me as well. Whenever I try to download anything in ANY file sharing application I get what I call the ' File Sharing Kiss of Death', also known as 'More Sources'. When you get the File Sharing Kiss of Death you are not going to get the file to download, no matter how many times you click 'find more sources for download' or 'resume'. It just doesn't happen. This happens for everything I try to download. Once I was trying to download 93 things and, one by one, they all got the File Sharing Kiss of Death. What do I do to get rid of the File Sharing Kiss of Death, or at least to make it happen MUCH less often? I've tried Kazaa, Morpheus, LimeWire, and AudioGalaxy, and they all do the same thing.

Need More Sources October 27th, 2003 11:49 PM

You don't get that problem with winmx. Less of a user base, but no "need more sources" messages.

www.winmx.com

!!! February 13th, 2004 09:04 PM

That's because all WinMX downloads have auto find sources every 10 ~ 15 mins. option turned on by default.
The userbase of OpenNap network (that's what WinMX is on, right?) seems to be about the same as the Gnutella network to me, maybe a bit smaller. For Japanese files, WinMX definately has a larger userbase.

Rainbow Girl February 18th, 2004 10:11 AM

Kazaa
 
Well, I now have Kazaa. Yesterday I discovered a miracle product called 'Kazoom'. Not only can I get some things to download completely, but if I get 'more sources' Kazoom will keep resuming until it downloads. It also helps to find more stuff when you search. When something starts to download, Kazoom will make sure it finishes. I don't know if there is anything like this for other download programs but it wouldn't hurt to look. I really love it as I can actually download stuff now.

ursula February 18th, 2004 11:50 AM

Ode To The Rainbow Coloured Hammerer !
 
What you are describing is, in fact, a true disaster for any p2p network...
Why ?
Because it is so 'aggressive'.
Using and wasting enormous bandwidth.
It may be nice for you as the 'taker', but consider how you would feel if you were the 'sharer' and your bandwidth was being hammered away at in such a manner.

There are many, many reasons why you may receive the 'dreaded' "Need More Sources"... Far too many to go into now.
But, remember that this is NOT a grocery store or petrol station where you have a right to assume availability on demand.
This is a hobby... Something that far too many people forget.

btw, in the past 4 days I have D/Led 9 files that I have had pending for over 2 months... If it's a file of some sort that you need within a specific time frame... Guess what ?

Go buy it. Or copy it at the library. Or rent it...
p2p for fun ain't no railroad with a timetable !!! :eek:

p.s. If you are finding yourself getting all of these desired files practically on demand through Kazaa, might I suggest that you install a cooling fan for your anti-virus app. ???
:p

murasame February 18th, 2004 01:56 PM

Re: Ode To The Rainbow Coloured Hammerer !
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ursula
What you are describing is, in fact, a true disaster for any p2p network...
Why ?
Because it is so 'aggressive'.
Using and wasting enormous bandwidth.
It may be nice for you as the 'taker', but consider how you would feel if you were the 'sharer' and your bandwidth was being hammered away at in such a manner.

There are many, many reasons why you may receive the 'dreaded' "Need More Sources"... Far too many to go into now.
But, remember that this is NOT a grocery store or petrol station where you have a right to assume availability on demand.
This is a hobby... Something that far too many people forget.

btw, in the past 4 days I have D/Led 9 files that I have had pending for over 2 months... If it's a file of some sort that you need within a specific time frame... Guess what ?

Go buy it. Or copy it at the library. Or rent it...
p2p for fun ain't no railroad with a timetable !!! :eek:

p.s. If you are finding yourself getting all of these desired files practically on demand through Kazaa, might I suggest that you install a cooling fan for your anti-virus app. ???
:p

You go girl!:D

Btw, have any of you tried re-searching the files to download? Whenever I get this message (the kiss of death thingy) I click the find more sources button and reinitiate the download, and I kinda get the filling that this helps a GRREEEEEEEAT deal. Personaly, I've never had any problems with this even though I download some pretty rare files, and this "trick" seems to have helped a lot fo' me

!!! February 22nd, 2004 09:37 PM

Auto-find sources would create incentive for users to keep their clients running over longer periods of time, hence improving the health of the network. Without an "auto-find sources every n minutes" feature, users would restart LimeWire more often because LimeWire does auto-finds sources only at the start of a download and on restart of LimeWire.

From my usage experience, auto-find sources is something that just work, and LimeWire doesn't have it. Doesn't LimeWire even block other clients on the network that try to do this? Which is more of a true disaster -- LimeWire that does auto-find sources once every week or a LimeWire with users clicking "find more sources" every split second?

ursula February 22nd, 2004 09:53 PM

!!!
 
Agreed.

btw, you may note that the most recent iterations of BearShare have a very much altered Find More Sources action.

Very effective but soft and gentle... :eek:

Now I shut up because I don't approve of moderators mentioning one client in another client's forum.

Hey, we never found out if the Rainbow Coloured Hammerer DOES have a fan on her a-v app. !!!

!!! February 22nd, 2004 11:38 PM

It seems like I was wrong about LimeWire and auto-find sources because LimeWire already seems to do this --- "Does retries and resumes automatically" according to
the ManagedDownloader Javadoc.


Also, a line from the "MessagesBundle.properties" reads: "DOWNLOAD_STATUS_FAILED=Awaiting Sources" which seems to mean that when the downloader goes into a GAVE_UP state, it displays "Awaiting Sources" next to the failed download item.

lotus5 March 13th, 2004 02:54 PM

Re: Kazaa
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rainbow Girl
Well, I now have Kazaa. Yesterday I discovered a miracle product called 'Kazoom'. Not only can I get some things to download completely, but if I get 'more sources' Kazoom will keep resuming until it downloads. It also helps to find more stuff when you search. When something starts to download, Kazoom will make sure it finishes. I don't know if there is anything like this for other download programs but it wouldn't hurt to look. I really love it as I can actually download stuff now.

Actually, I'm on your side and would look around to see what works....I have actually had much better luck through kazaa and emule as well. I don't want to get into a flame-throwing contest, but I'm just a little worked up about my "need more sources" situation with limewire. I have to say one thing and that is no, I didn't need a "cooling fan for my anti-virus app." for the 2 years I have been using kazaa. All computer/technical jargon aside, I hope no one "FORGETS" that we BOUGHT this service. If it is just a "hobby" and I'm not gauranteed anything, then don't charge me 20 bucks (and that would include the annoying "upgrade to pro" pop-up for ANOTHER 20 bucks)! I downloaded and PAID for this service for the same resons everyone else did-----so I didn't have to spend $12 to $15 for the CD...whomever posted the last scathing message about this problem has a set of crystals to imply that I should go elsewhere for it after limewire has now received a non-refundable payment from me...That's like walking into a "petrol station", giving the clerk 20 dollars, only to have them say they are out of gas as you sit there with the option of going elsewhere or waiting a month for their next shipment of gasoline...

murasame March 14th, 2004 05:37 AM

Nope, no one fergits it.
But what you must understand is that paying for the software is only meant as a contribution to the project, meaning that you could have downloaded the FREE app instead of the pro one and still have the exact same app (aside from some additional ads).
You shouldn't have hurried on to buy something that you didn't know how well it worked (on YOUR machine) and stuff since there was a free version available.
As it is widely said throughout these forums, Limewire has diverse performances depending on the machine.

sebkarlsson March 14th, 2004 12:26 PM

Re: Ode To The Rainbow Coloured Hammerer !
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ursula
What you are describing is, in fact, a true disaster for any p2p network...
Why ?
Because it is so 'aggressive'.
Using and wasting enormous bandwidth.
It may be nice for you as the 'taker', but consider how you would feel if you were the 'sharer' and your bandwidth was being hammered away at in such a manner.

There are many, many reasons why you may receive the 'dreaded' "Need More Sources"... Far too many to go into now.
But, remember that this is NOT a grocery store or petrol station where you have a right to assume availability on demand.
This is a hobby... Something that far too many people forget.

btw, in the past 4 days I have D/Led 9 files that I have had pending for over 2 months... If it's a file of some sort that you need within a specific time frame... Guess what ?

Go buy it. Or copy it at the library. Or rent it...
p2p for fun ain't no railroad with a timetable !!! :eek:

p.s. If you are finding yourself getting all of these desired files practically on demand through Kazaa, might I suggest that you install a cooling fan for your anti-virus app. ???
:p

Right...
Firstly I am amazed that you can write this back as a 'reply'.
I won't go into the fact that you are a 'super moderator' as I have just come on here for the first time with a similar problem to the above, and judging by both the first two moderators responses on this thread... well 'super' should be replaced with another s word with 4 letters.

Anyway, this is a serious issue as I have just upgraded recently to LW Pro 3.8.6 and am not able to d/l anymore. This is both with ****-* users and modem to T3 & above connections.
What happens is that after 15sec's of d/l'ing the connection just cuts to 'need more sources'.
And you sure as hell can't get it started again!!

Another thing to mention to user Murasame: Okay it is a donation, BUT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BENEFIT YOU, OR REWARD YOU ALSO! - I now cannot d/l ANYMORE files since i have upgraded and have posted this news with various p2p newsgroups so the same doesn't happen to them.

Finally, I think Urusla is far too up herself and should post messages that would actually _help_ users, not waste our time!!!

p.s. Kazaa has also brought me no problems (especially if you have kazaa lite) and soul seek is also excellent.

stief March 14th, 2004 02:09 PM

sebkarlsson--you owe Ursula and murasame an apology. Your claim they haven't helped is grossly unfounded. Ursula uploads ~4 GB /day and has helped thousands more in this and other forums. You sir, are ignorant.

If you have any credibility in other forums and posted a some kind of rationalization of leechers, please advise which forums. No wonder so many ISP's and network managers are trying to kill p2p because of irresponsible leechers.

gnutella was severly rocked for almost six months by greedy clients. Compare the numbers for Jan 2003 with today. The graph no longer shows the highs of 500,000 users in the previous year. Currently, the network has slowly recovered, but at the cost of giving up the very desired automatic researching. Now connections from clients who will not upload to the network are being rightly refused. If this has hurt your p2p experience, good. Go away. If you are a legitimate uploader who would like help from the VOLUNTEERS here with specific problems, post your specifics.

As for donating--LW allows anyone to compile their own client--for FREE. I can use several, but continue to 'pay' for Pro every six months--as a donation to this ongoing project.

Gad--the righteous confidence of selfish ignorance.

There. I needed that. /end rant. Carry on.

sebkarlsson March 14th, 2004 03:42 PM

Fair enough@Stief

Point taken - When I wrote earlier I had not been on these message boards before, and did admitantly explode.

I take back that I think Ursula's super should be replaced with s*** moderator! :)

I stand by the fact, however, that the post was unconstructive.
The specifics of my problem are that I have been getting plenty of search results to any search I have run, yet after trying each of the files, found that they download stops between 5-15secs.
This seems to be either a connection or program issue as it is regular as clockwork, and doesn't seem to rely on the user I attempt to d/l from.
Now, I currently share around 2,200 files on limewire, after having changed this 2 weeks ago (just after problems started) from above 10,000 files... I know this is better than most users, so I hope that this has not been the issue! I usually upload around 20 files per day on limewire, 50 with soulseek and less with kazaa.
Anyway, that's pretty much it with specifics!

Again point taken on the fact that my statement was ignorant, but I do stand by the fact that the previous moderators' posts were unconstructive, if not further argumentative.

Bottom line is nevertheless, that Limewire gets excellent search results nearly every time, and problems that restrict the use are extremely aggravating.

stief March 14th, 2004 04:02 PM

OK. I apologize for suggesting you were a leecher, but profoundly disagee with your perception of Ursula's posts. Ursula is often the peacemaker, and did point out that BearShare has instituted an automatic searcing of sorts (which has already flooded the source of one file so I can't get it this weekend). I think those posts spoke constructively to the issue, but everyone who helps knows how frustrating inconsistent/non-existent downloads can be.

Anyway--shall we continue?

If your firewall/router or elsewhere upstream does not allow incoming connections on the port of your choice (default is 6346), you can receive results but will need to depend on a third, proxy, computer to get the download going ("Push Requests" I think they are called).

Are you able to accept incoming connections? Look in the preferences (Tools->Options) for the bug report setting, and see the sample bug report. There should be a line saying "Received incoming this session: true"

ursula March 14th, 2004 04:38 PM

Oh my !!!
 
Dear sebkarlsson,

First, I try, as a rule, to not respond to posts such as yours... But, you lucky person... I am going to make a special exception just for you...
Why ?
Because you are talking nonsense.
Every word that I wrote in re: the comments from Rainbow Girl were simple facts... Especially as they relate to the Gnutella Network.
I will be happy to repeat them and will promise you that there will be many experienced users who would support every word of those comments.

Next...
Neither you nor Rainbow Girl had posted one syllable or vowel that could in any way shape or form indicate what specific problems you are posting to complain about.

There is not one word from either of you that would give anyone a single clue as to what computer or Operating System either of you may be running.

There is not one word of anything specific related to the foundations of your 'complaints'.


Neither of you actually asked any questions
related to any specific problem(s).


The posts from Rainbow Girl are no more than out of date canned spam.

...................

In fact, the comments I made are most constructive if they are understood to be a condensing of some of the serious problems inflicted by the few upon the many within p2p communities.

btw... The 'Super' bit in the moderator status thing - which I did NOT choose for myself - simply refers to the fact that I, along with some other mods here, are not... NOT allied to any specific client... Instead, we are free to roam and rampage through all forums... even in the dark little corners where the trolls hang out !!!
This is a thread getting to be more and more like one of those little hangouts, don't you think ?

Gosh, and poor little full of myself me only manages to U/L an average 1,000 files per 24hrs... Guess yours must be real biggun's, huh ?

Look, most of us around here are sick and tired of crap posts comparing unlike with unlike...
It says "Gnutella Forums" on the door... Right ?

Most of us have heard the absurd litanies over Kazaa for far too long... Not interesting...
Now, you're not the first, and won't be the last, to come in here with exactly the same old worn lines...

Try something a bit fresher and maybe a post or two that actually says something concrete.


stief, and I and many others are more than happy to try to help...
But...

Be good, 'urs'... be good !!!

...
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9
10


There, feel much better now...

ya creep !
:p

ursula March 15th, 2004 03:54 AM

How true, Peerless... ;)

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