Sberlin>GeoFan49>Observations
 

Greetings

I successfully direct connected with GeoFan49 and his friend. This is what I noted.

1. Direct Connection with both was successful on first attempt, using external IP address.

2. Upon Direct Connection internal IP address was shown in red, and no chat icon was present.

3. When attempting a d/l I received a need more sources for the d/l from both of them. Upon clicking find more sources GeoFan49's d/l started immediately. While GeoFan49's friend d/l did not. I had to repeat search and re-establish a dc with GeoFan49's friend for the d/l to start.

4. Upon the d/l starting the chat icon showed in the d/l window. I was able to engage both in a chat at the same time. Different chat boxes of course, but to the same end. Both were able to chat with me.

5. They were both successful in dc with this machine and d/l a file.
Noticed external IP addresses in monitor window when u/l started to them.

6. I was able to successfully d/l a second file from GeoFan49, but not his friend. No matter what I tried. I shut down my LW and restarted. I was then able to successfully dc with GeoFan49's friend and d/l another file going through the process noted above. Subsequent attempts failed.
Note: Never got to ask either one what max. u/l per person was set at. Might have a bearing if set to 1.

7. Upon trying to d/l from either. I could either click find sources, and the d/l would start or click force resume and the d/l would start. I tried both ways just to see.

8. Specifics on this machine while doing this.
Connection status. UP connected 32 P 30L connection stable, d/l speed set to infininte and u/l speed set the same. u/l slots set to 20 and 10 max. u/l per user.

If any other information or more specific information is needed SBerlin I will be more than happy to supply such information.

Uploads per person?
 

Thanks, fabion, for documenting your results.

QUESTION:

Does Options... Uploads... Slots... Uploads per person mean simultaneous uploads? or total uploads? If total, then how/when is it reset? I had interpreted it to mean simultaneous, so I had set it to 3.

I had set mine to 3 per person, 6 slots total (I have a slow PC.) I've just reset it to 5 per person to be on the safe side, and 7 slots.

sberlin::

• I've reset my DSL modem/NAT router to defaults,
  no more TCP/UDP port forwarding, as you requested.
• I have set LimeWire to UPnP,
  and all ordinary LimeWire ULs/DLs seem AOK.
• HOWEVER: rcvd incoming=false!!!
• SO, is it worthwhile to even try to test DC DL... ??? :confused:
  
• my buddy Dave is not available till Sunday. I hope to find someone who can duplicate the SBC (ISP) and 2Wire (modem/firewall) config, and test before then. Otherwise further tests are on hold till Sunday.

Meanwhile, ANYBODY willing to test DC DL???

We've discovered an alternative (thanks, sberlin!)
to TCP/UDP port forwarding... UPnP!?

Everything screams real fast now, except
Direct Connect is not tested yet...

I have Tools... Options... Bug Reports...
Received incoming this session: false
but it seems LimeWire DL+UL works AOK anyway,
UPnP must be an alternative to port forwarding,
if your firewall supports it?!

Comments, please?

Direct Connect Download worked 1st time... fails 2nd time...

that is also what I also saw, on occasion...

could it be a LW bug?

My "Max uploads per person" was set to 3...
That really means 3 CONCURRENT, yes?

If LimeWire hasn't received than incoming connection, then your router didn't support UPnP (or didn't support it properly, atleast). LimeWire won't just keel over and die if it can't get incoming connections (it still works quite well), but Direct Connect & other things won't work.

What this means, though, is that you need to tell LimeWire that it is using "Manual Port Forward" and set your routers appropriately. Leaving LW at UPnP won't work, even if the router is configured.

This way, LW will know why its receiving incoming connections, and can set things up correctly.

That's the problem with static ip's lol :D Either you're not online or your ip has changed. Tried twice in last 30 mins w/o success. Just responding to your earlier pm request 990 mins ago.

Hey... I am up now. Set firewall for TCP + UDP on port 6969 for my PC. Mac is offline now. Set up LimeWire for Manual Port Fwd on 6969... ready to test?

sberlin :: I'm guessing... with RCVD = false, there was little point in trying DC any further... right?

I had to actually type in :6969 at the end of the ip to get you but ... no files in result. It did the search ok but no results. I'll see if i can remember a file of yours to search that not too many others have.

No I'm not getting anywhere.

Hey I don't know what you just did but I just got you.

Today...... I am an ultrapeer? Why? Never happened before...
Maybe... it's the LW manual port fwd stuff I set up today!?

Tried DC with LOTR at 203.206.xx.xx:6346 = NO JOY. Everything else works OK.

What to try next???

See also:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...161#post133161

Fabion's gone out for a time so I don't know if he'll see the same as me but from my end everything looks healthy. Even the Chat icons are showing in the search results. Public ip, ip in black, etc.

Purely as a side note. I had to open up xtra upld slots to allow GeoFan49 to Direct Connect with me. (However I've had others DC with me before without doing this.) I tend to have a busy upld list & added to my personal limited upld bandwidth (256/64 kbps) this was necessary to be sure of his success. Fabion (T3) apparently also had same success 2 ways.

As noted by LOTR I had no problems establishing a dc with GeoFan49. The image LOTR posted is similar to what I saw. GeoFan49 also had no problems dc with this machine, d/l, or chatting. I had no problems d/l from GeoFan49.

LimeWire Direct Connect AOK with SBC DSL!
 

Dave and I just got setup and we've tested LimeWire Direct Connect.

RESULT = AOK!

Setup:

• 2Wire DSL modem / NAT router:
  Forwarding TCP + UDP port 6969 to PC.
  
• LimeWire Tools... Options... Firewall...
  Listen on port 6969
  Manual port forward 6969

Thruput today :: Geo<>Dave :: 24KB/sec peaks, 12KB/sec avg...
(each using SBC-Yahoo!-DSL at 160KB/sec DL, 56KB/sec UL)

Thruput yesterday :: Geo<>fab (T3) :: 90KB/sec peaks, 45KB/sec avg...

I was anticipating better thruput with Dave, but it does work...
After all, we can download POP email at 140-160KB/sec!!!

Thanks for the help, y'all!

For anyone who cares, the problem was most likely that if you've set up your router yourself, you must tell LimeWire that you've done a "Manual Port Forward". If not, LimeWire won't know what's going on. Most often, this shouldn't be necessary because the router should understand UPnP.

Can I just clarify something, I think one of the posters touched on this above.

My initial setup of LW was automatic port configuration by LW using UPnP. I have been able to DL and UL with no problems but it would be impossible for anyone to connect direct with my computer. This is confirmed in both Search -> Direct Connect (message reads "Your computer is behind a firewall or router and cannot receive direct connections", plus the Bug Report test reports ""Recieved incoming this session" False.

Following the instructions about manual configuration, I added TCP/UDP for Gnutella, opening the ports. Upon restarting LW, and clicking Search -> Direct Connect instead of the firewall message I get instructions on how to get friends to connect and in the bug report it now reads "Recieved incoming this session" True. The main thing though - downloading appears to be MUCH faster - at least 3 times faster, probably more. Am I imagining this bit or has manually configuring the ports done this? It was downloading before but it was quite slow at times (perhaps I couldn't download from all sources because I was firewalled?).

I haven't changed the "Use UPnP" router configuration. Should I change this to Manual Port Forward?

Is the way I've now configured LW a better option. Can someone tell me if opening ports like this is safe? I'm using Zone Alarm and all that ever asked me when I first set up LW was whether I wanted LW to both access the internet and to act as a server - I clicked to permanently allow both.

Again, sorry for the lengthy post, I'm really new to all this. Is my computer safe with the current configurations?

Robert

It's only advisable to have one firewall otherwise they can interfere in odd ways with each other. So disable all firewalls except your prefered one such as Zone Alarm here: http://www.limewire.com/english/content/firewalls.shtml

I attempted to direct connect to you without success. Perhaps you were too busy at the time who knows. I hope you saw this: How to Direct Connect, Browse & Chat & it helps if you enable chat.

I was changing the config settings back to see if I really was imagining the increased speed, so it's possible I'd gone behind the firewall once more at the point you were trying.

Could you try once more and see if you can connect? It's 2:10am UK time here, so i can only be around for about another 20 minutes or so (work in 6 hours!).

I've enabled chat too.

I'm not sure what to do about the firewall situation, DLs are definately faster with manual port config, but I don't want to disable Zone Alarm as I'd be worried about the security of my computer.

Robert

(btw, how can you tell a person's IP? Is it a feature of the board or are you a mod? Just curious!)

I am a moderator. No need to disarm your firewalls just have one & configure it as in here: http://www.limewire.com/english/content/firewalls.shtml

Looks like I'd left the forum when you posted back.

It suddenly occured to me when I was a t work today that all I had to do was to disable Windows' Internet Connection Firewall, leaving Zone Alarm enabled. I've just done this and clicking the Search -> Direct Connections tab shows the legend "When your friends want to connect to you, they should enter (IP address)" rather than the message that says my computer is unable to accept direct connections as it is behind a firewall. The bug test report also now says ""Recieved incoming this session" True".

Thanks for your help, hopefully I've now got LW configured for optimum performance!

double post, sorry. I meant to click "edit" instead of "quote". Then it wouldn't let me edit either post, probably because I'm a guest and I'd clicked away from the page after posting (I registered yesterday and still haven't had the confirmation / activation email).