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mfreedman97 July 7th, 2005 09:33 PM

Download Speed ALWAYS drops to ZERO
 
Sorry if this is a repeat - I can't seem to find an answer in Forum or FAQ . Why does my d.l. speed start off at 33mbps and drop steadily to zero and then just freeze ? I am on ROGERS CABLE in Toronto, Canada if that makes any difference and my connecton is through a router....TIA

PigDog4 July 8th, 2005 04:54 PM

I'm having this same problem. I'm only on a DSL connection, though. I found leaving the downloads set to 8, and not giving LW unlimited bandwith helps alot. I've got my bandwith capped at about 30 kB/s. It seems to help a bit.

gbach July 10th, 2005 09:14 AM

Download speed drops to zero
 
This started a couple of days ago.
Download speed starts normal and then slows down till it reaches zero. Have no idea what to do. Can someone help? Tried everything.
Thanks

gregmark34 July 17th, 2005 02:13 AM

aye me 2
 
iv got the same problem, it doesent matter what i download, the speeds all start up at v good for me prahaps 50-70Kbs somtimes iv even got over 160Kbs but after about 30 mins they have all slowly and stedaly dropped down to 1-2Kbs and never recouver

i dont use a firewall and i know that the SP2 xp firewall is definatly switched off so please dont start on about doing this and that 2 my firewall settings and anyhow it cant realy be anything to do with firewall type problems as they start out with a realy good speed which they wouldent if there was that kind of problem.

i have found that if i log out and shut down AOL, wait 4 a bit then relog and rerun LW i get the speed back again 4 a while but not 4 long!

Can anyone please help its realy anouying and im not guna buy the pro version untill i know that its not guna do this as well.

Thx all Greg.

et voilą July 17th, 2005 06:08 AM

It is probably your ISPs limiting Gnutella traffic to save bandwidth costs :( Have you guys tried using LW on a different port than 6346?

The best way to tell if ISP limits traffic it to connect to the internet at some other place or via 56k to see if then traffic slows to 0kB/s.

Ciao

sal2255 July 17th, 2005 08:56 AM

hi ive got dsl my max speed is only 3kbs, cant get it any higher. also it wont allow me to preview any files . sorry ive got 56lk modem can anyone help please (bear in mind im a bit thick ) thanks :p

gregmark34 July 17th, 2005 02:38 PM

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ive got dsl my max speed is only 3kbs, cant get it any higher. also it wont allow me to preview any files . sorry ive got 56lk modem can anyone help please (bear in mind im a bit thick

err what made u decide 2 put this in this threed?

anyhow back 2 subject,

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Have you guys tried using LW on a different port than 6346?
so R we all on AOL? (thats a retrospective question to all other poster) and im not sure about how we would change the port being used, can someone enlighten me a little please.

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or via 56k to see if then traffic slows to 0kB/s
I would try the dialup idea but im not sure if i could tell if it was dropping anywhere cos i dought it would start out with anything other than a v slow speed in the first place and like i said mine dont drop compleatly two zero (supose it might have done if i had left it long enough but iv always quit at 1-2Kbs).

ok Thx all Greg.

et voilą July 17th, 2005 02:55 PM

for the 985th time 1kb/s = 0,125 kB/s. A 56kb/s can't reach more 7kB/s even with compression.

Greg: don't know what you are talking about for the AOL thing, AOL sucks why would I know about it?
Go in options->advanced-> firewall and change the 6346 value to something like 1000.

Also, enable the "distribution" (well that's the french name, don't know in english) column by right clicking on the download window column. If you see RAZA ou shareaza, then it is normal that the dl is slow, just bitch those users :p

gregmark34 July 17th, 2005 03:11 PM

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for the 985th time 1kb/s = 0,125 kB/s. A 56kb/s can't reach more 7kB/s even with compression.
err whats that all about ? i dident say dialup could go any faster than 7KBs, in fact its exactly becouse dialup starts at such a slow speed that i couldent realy c if its dropping anywhere!

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Greg: don't know what you are talking about for the AOL thing, AOL sucks why would I know about it?
No im not specificly talking with u, i just wanted 2 know if all the people who r getting massive slow down r useing AOL as there ISP, OBVIOUSLY U R NOT!, and btw theres nothing wrong with AOL but thats another argument .
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Go in options->advanced-> firewall and change the 6346 value to something like 1000
err ill just quote myself!
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I DONT USE A FIREWALL! and i know that the SP2 xp firewall is definatly switched off
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then it is normal that the dl is slow, just bitch those users
i dont think that having 7 hosts on T1 or even T3 or higher offering 1Kb/s is normal at all, especaly when they were giving 160Kb/s 15 mins ago, and it happens on all of the dl,ing files at the same time.


Greg.

et voilą July 17th, 2005 03:14 PM

You definitly don't understand/read correctly. Read again or else our help is useless /time wasted.

gregmark34 July 17th, 2005 03:16 PM

which part? and dont say all of it cos i was wondering myself if u was reading what i was putting at times!!!!!!

et voilą July 17th, 2005 03:42 PM

-a port has nothing to do with a firewall, but you have to open the used port on a firewall to let the app access 100% the internet.

- You have winblows xp , so get a firewall or you'll be hacked soon.

-you should not use AOL.

- the kb/s vs kB/s wasn't addressed at you if you read the thread correctly.

-the speed problem is what we are trying to resolve here, so do what suggested:
a) change port
b)try connecting via another ISP or 56K to see if the ISP is responsible

:o

gregmark34 July 17th, 2005 04:15 PM

ok i apperciate your time on this :-) but i think were not quite understanding each other properly, but i`ll try 2 make it clear as posable,
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a) change port
yep i did that already have tryed putting it to 1000 and several other sugested values in fourm and help files. but nothing changed
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b)try connecting via another ISP or 56K to see if the ISP is responsible
56K modem, like iv already said i dont think i could c any drop on dial up cos dialup has a fastest conection of about 7KB/s and i wouldent b able to c any real drop from such a low level (as iv also already said mine does not drop to 0) so a speed of 2-3KB/s could b quite normal on dialup or it could b concidered a drop but how can anyone tell the diff.
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you should not use AOL.
?? y not ?? its never caused any problems at all except maybe now, which is y i wanted to know if all the people getting this drop off of speed r also useing AOL cos then i could c the problem prob is with AOL. i wasent asking if u use AOL cos i prsume you have not got this problem.
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try connecting via another ISP
this is not realy an option , it costs money, time and u often have to have a years contract with broadband isp,s so its a bit much just to test an idea
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You have winblows xp , so get a firewall or you'll be hacked soon.
o and i lied a little, i do have a firewall (zonealarm pro & SP2 xp FW)but for the testing period of LW i have uninstalled both cos whenever i say i use a firewall people get stuck on trying to get me to configure them and cant get past it, so i uninstaled them so i could say i dont have 1 and hopefully i wouldent get anymore advise on setting up the dam firewall.

please dont think im not very greatfull 4 all your input,
Thx v much Greg.

et voilą July 17th, 2005 05:48 PM

Ok I'll explain you what happens more and more often with ISPs:

Bandwidth you use is the most costly thing for a ISP, especially bandwidth between countries. Since P2P is the most consumming bandwidth application for ISPs and that Gnutella is one the biggest P2P network, some ISPs detect Gnutella tranfers then throttles them so the users get discouraged from using P2P. Some ISP simply block the most used port of an network, for Gnutella it is 6346. Here is appears the port isn't blocked since you can connect and search.

Here is one possible thing happening: you begin a transfer, by a certain amount of transfer or speed reached, the ISP looks automatically at Gnutella headers, if found, they throttle the traffic of Gnutella, hence your downloads slower than 2kB/s.

But you should try completing a big download and compare the download time between your DSL and your dialup (56K). Try downloading one 10 meg or so file in LW with the two connections types and measure time for download completion (for the exact same file).

Also, you didn't tell if you were downloading from Limewires or Shareazas, I'm presently on a dl for which shareazas sources outnumber the LWs ones, and my dl speed (when downloading at all) sucks.

Ciao

gregmark34 July 17th, 2005 07:32 PM

Im useing Limewire but unlike u im only testing downloads with other LW sources.
I understand excatly what u mean about the isp,s and what there doing 2 try 2 discurage p2p and if the answer to my question about the other users who also suffer from the same effect being on AOL as well would cirtanly prove that in this case it is indeed the isp, but the odd thing is that over the last couple of months i have been searching 4 a good p2p program, i have tryied almost all of the main fileshare software now and that includes Gnutella, Shareazas, Bearshare, kazza lite, Morphious, Blubster and some bit tolarant programs, the list goes on but even though Gnutella, Shareazas and Bearshare r on the same network these programs dident act in this maner.

I thourght i had finaly found the program that i was most comfatable and happy with when i installed Limewire and i dont realy want 2 move on to the next cos im feed up with dealing with all the bundles of crap that come with most programs.

but one thing i have found is that if i compleatly logout and shut down AOL and then re-logon that i get nearly an hour of good DL speed before it tappers off, so i might just stick with that as it only takes 3 or 4 relogs to get 1GB down within 3 or 4 hours, so thats not so bad.

Anyhow thx 4 all your input and time, and maybe theres somthing in this threed that will help others with the same problem even if the solution is to change your ISP.

Thx again Greg.


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