Ultrapeer Capabilities
 

Under the "speed" section in options there is a section called "Ultrapeer Capabilities", I have a cable connection .Should the box labeled "disable ultrapeer capabilities "be checked, and will it help my downloading?
Thank you

For searching generally yes it is better to disable ultrapeer.

Thank you

Thank You Grandpa

Did Not know that

Everytime I Connect I'm an Utrapeer, Wondered why the search results were so crap

Thank You again will try disabling

Sgt

Hmmm--your search results should be just as good when running as an Ultrapeer. There was a version where that didn't happen, but I thought it was fixed by now, since the devs in no way wanted to penalize ultrapeers . . .

What version are you using?

stief

I have found that when running in UP mode it usually take several hours to to get to 30/14 after 24 hrs maybe 30/18 as soon as you start to search it will drop 5 to 8 leaves. I have cable 650kb down 45kb up which is more than enough for UP I very rarely DL in UP so there is no reason for it no to get to 30/30
I am running 4.9.28 Pro. I also know that people that have faster connections full T3 have no problem reaching the 30/30 number.

Hi GP

I can't find the note offhand, but the leaf count shouldn't affect the search results (it's the other UP's that you are connected to that count).

You're right that the current releases don't max out the leaf slots as quickly. Even with a 5mbps down 1 mbps up cable (almost a T3), I rarely see 30 lefs connected, but I do get up to the 24 peers within a couple of minutes, and the next six peers come pretty quickly too.

Search result effectiveness is tough to evaluate. Still, if I get a chance I'll check around and see if I can get a better answer to the leaf/UP search effectiveness question. The devs should make sure UP's are being rewarded for their contribution to the network.

cheers

Hi stief

I usually get about 28 peers and between 5-6 leafs , I'm only on a 2.2mbit connection, which really stretches my 512 ram, I can not figure out yet what Limewire is doing, this happens every time I connect I have never been a leaf unless I disconect Then reconect quickley, but after 15 min it goes to Ultrapeer again, any ideas?

Sgt

Disabe UP mode. I am not at home right now so I don't have LW open but I believe it is tools/speed then tick the disable UP box. Any way it is in the tools menu

Sgt: Here's an example of how results vary. The 413 results were as an ultrapeer; the others were all connected to a different set of leafs. Your automatic reconnection as an UP says you have a very good connection that is in demand.

I disconnected and disabled UP in the speed section of the options (you recalled correctly GP), then tried searching as a leaf, disconnecting and reconnecting each time.

I'm still trying for a better answer about the the search horizon capabilities of a leaf vs and ultrapeer with the newer versions.

I'm sorry for sounding stupid, but what exactly is an 'Ultrapeer'? I too have seen it in the Options menu but I didn't want to tamper with it because I didn't know what it was.:confused:

An ultrapeer is what leafs connect to, and direct most of the traffic as efficiently as possible.

UP's basically communicate with each other and look after a set of leafs (max 30 in LW).

The UP handle most of the message traffic, and shield the leafs from irrelevant queries, only sending requests to a leaf if they have the file and are likely to be able to deliver it (they're not too busy)

This frees up the leafs from getting flooded with requests that could otherwise clog the system.

You can see your details in the options-> bug reports->view example if you scroll down a bit

Uptime: 2:31
Is Connected: true
Number of Ultrapeer -> Ultrapeer Connections: 24
Number of Ultrapeer -> Leaf Connections: 0
Number of Leaf -> Ultrapeer Connections: 0

If you need more info, I can probably dig up some links. I haven't checked the LW FAQ for a while, but it should give you the basics.

btw-with 2.5 minutes of uptime, a what's new image search with 24 peers and no leafs yet got me 498 results.

So no leafs were needed to get results when running as an ultrapeer.

Some people don't want to be an Ultrapeer. Is it best to be one or not?

Best?

The network relies on up's, and you have to have a good connection to be one.

If you want to leech, don't be an UP, because UP's donate bandwidth for everyone else's searches.

It's best for the network to be an ultrapeer. Without enough Ultrapeers, new users or users with slow or badly configured connections can't get connected or get decent results.

check out http://www.limewire.com/english/content/netsize.shtml

the red line shows the UP's; the green shows all the others.

I'll stick with being an Ultrapeer then. I don't want to be a leech.

If your ISP is Canadian, keep an eye on your bandwith (the LW tools->Statistics->Bandwidth, or maybe your ISP has set up an account page for you).

Some ISP's throttle or cap you monthly limits, and running as an UP 24/7 can use up almost 1GB/day (though the newer versions use less since they don't connect to as many leafs as much).

my ISP limits me to 70GB/month before sending out a notice. You might want to check with yours.

Cheers

Thanks for the warning. I'm with Bell Sympatico and the most time my sister or I have spent on LimeWire is about 4 hours. We don't leave it up and running all day.

I myself run as a UP about 90% of the time. The only time I disable it is when I am doing heavy DL mainly when I m testing betas and trying to see if I can make it freeze or break it somehow. One thing you should know is if you run as a UP and you do not have allot of memory 1gig or more there is a good chance it will slow down your computer. When running in UP mode and DL heavily LW will use about 90MB of memory LW and just about any Java based program has a memory leak it shows up more in UP mode than leaf.

If you occasionally minimize LW it will clear the leak and it will run at around 50MB but it will slowly creep back up to 90MB.
When running in leaf I have yet to see the newer versions get above 65MB. I keep my UL bandwidth set at about 75% of my capability when running in UP the reason for this is if I go above that it will start to slowdown the Internet.

So there are some things to think about when running in UP I run in UP because I have no problems doing so. But if you do not have a mid to top end computer you will see an affect on you computers performance.