How To Determine My Own Host Number
 

I am using ADSL connection. Clicking my Local Area Connection Status under Support Tab shows IP Address, Subnet Mask and Default Gateway. My IP address is 192.168.1.103. Assuming this is my host number:192.168.1.103:45149, where can I get the extension number highlighted in red?

The number you have highlighted in red is the port number that LW is using.

Tools...options...advanced...firewall config

I'm not sure if this answers your question. :o

Dan

I got it. Thanks for the info. My next problem is that I can browse some hosts using Direct Connect but mine is not available to them. I am using LW Pro but above the Direct Connect Box, it is mentioned like this: Your computer is behind a firewall or router and cannot receive direct connections. I put off my Windows Firewall already but to no avail. Any suggestion on how to enable receiving direct connections? I am using Speedtouch ADSL Modem with four ports and one wireless. At present, only one PC is connected using one port.

1. Can you specify exactly which models of conntection devices you are using? Knowing that will help us determine if you need to do anything special with any of them such as port forwarding.

2. Did you configure your software firewall so it allows LW full access (advisable not to have 2 active firewalls b/c they can interfere with each other); Firewall configuration instructions (click on link)

3. System details - help us to help you (click on blue link)

Thompson Speedtouch ADSL Modem
 

Abarceo

I use one of thse modems as well, it has a built in NAT firewall which can only be completely turned off by using command-line commands, i.e. from the DOS prompt.

I think it is unlikely that you can direct connect using this type of modem simply because of the way the NAT firewall works, that is it will reject any incoming communication from the internet that you did not initiate. That means if you did not specifically request it, a web page, download, etc., the NAT firewall will naturally reject it.

Therefore, since you cannot initiate someone to Direct Connect to you from your PC the NAT firewall will not accept or let through such communication from an outside PC.

There maybe a technical way around this but I presume you will have to contact the Thompson-Speedtouch technical helpdesk to find out.



UK Bob

Lord of the Rings

I am trying to establish what causing my computer's behind Firewall through your tips and solutions. I'll get back to you once finished. Regarding my connection device, please see hereunder.

UK Bob
Thank you for the information.
Is this the one of the modems you used: Thomson Speedtouch 585(i)v6
Interfaces
WAN
-ADSL (ANSI, ETSI T1.413, G.dmt Annex A/B(POTS/ISDN).G.lite
-ADSL (G.dmt2 Annex A, B, L)
-ADSL+
LAN
-802.11g 54Mb/s Wi-Fi Certified TM gateway(1)
-4 x Ethernet ports (10/100base-T HD/DD)
SERVICES
Multi-user Wireless High Speed Internet Access
UPnP certified Internet Gateway(2)
Enables game Technologies
Enables home working
Enables Microsoft Messenger Conferencing

I'll try to contact Thompson for technical support

Thomson-Speedtouch Modems
 

Abarceo

I currently use the ST510v6 but I do have the ST585v6 which I will be installing next week, the plan is to have the modem connected by wire to my PC while my two sons connect to this modem wirelessly.

In order to remain secure I am going to initiate the WPA encryption, which I understand is the best encryption a home user can have.



UK Bob

UK Bob

So you think ST585v6 modem is not the problem causing my connection FireWalled? This model is utilizing UPnP. I even tried this: Network Connections/Advance/Optional Networking Components/Networking Services/enabled or checked UPnP User Interface.
Still my LW is FireWalled, though I have a Turbo-Charge Connection.

I am still working with the suggestion of Lord of the Ring. My installed anti-virus is Kaspersky6.0. I tried checking the setting to include LW in the exceptions but I can't find it. The settings is only limited to allow which port has to be scanned for virus. I tried adding and removing LW with its port to no success. I also tried to disconnect (exit) my anti-virus with no positive result.

Promlem with Thomson-Speedtouch modems
 

AbarceoNo, I did not say or indicate that your modem is not a problem.

I'll explain, your modem, like mine, has a built in NAT firewall which is difficult to turn off, you can only use command-line commands.

Also, the UPnP implementation in the Thomson-Speedtouch modems don't seem to work with the LW implementation, so the only choice you have is to "Port Forward" your modem.

Now, it took me about two or so months before I could get "Port Forwarding" to work and even then I only succeeded because a forum member from Australia sent me the instructions. Unfortunately, at the moment I am at work and the forum member concerned is on holiday. However, if you want to know how to exactly port forward your modem let me know and I will send you the instructions over the weekend.

As for direct connections, I am not sure that you can direct connect with a Thomson-Speedtouch modem, especially as UPnP does not work the way it should. Hence, my advice to contact the technical helpdesk and find out from them whether or not it is possible.

Finally, most anti-virus apps do not have firewalls installed so there will not be a way to let LW through but some have an anti-worm feature that may block LW, if your AV does have this feature then temporarily turn it off.



UK Bob

UK Bob

Thanks! I'll just wait for your additional info.

You made no mention of your software firewall. I presume you are using XP firewall. Did you configure it to allow LW full access? Instructions in my previous post. :)

Yes, Iam using XP firewall and already configured. Do you think it has something to do with my IP address? My IP address is starting with 192.168.1.10...But, I can download and upload at the same time.

Abarceo

I that you were trying to enable someone to "Direct Connect" to you but your recent question about your IP address is somewhat confusing because firewalls have nothing to do with IP addresses.

An IP address for a home PC, and I presume you are using a home PC, is allocated by your ISP automatically. If you check my screen print below, you will see I have a standard XP set up designed to accept an IP address sent by my ISP and, if your set up is like mine, you will see the same thing as well, check your TCP/IP properties.

Next, the IP address you are seeing I believe it is the one that your modem-router is using to search the internet on your behalf. You see, what the NAT router table does is to substitute your PC's IP address for one in its table when you initiate a search, download, etc. Now, when your modem-router receives a reply it converts it's substitute IP back into the one your PC is expecting.

The thing that makes modem-routers so good it that unlike simple modems if it receives an unexpected internet communication the modem-router will drop that internetsignal like a hot brick while an ordinary modem will pass it through to your PC. That is why PCs with modem-routers do not get probed or suffer the kind of internet attacks other PC owners suffer with.

To get past a modem-router requires the PC owner to visit a booby trapped web-page, download malware (Trojan, virus or spyware) or load something from a floppy disk or CD.

Back to your "Direct Connect" problem, as I said before direct connect may not work because your modem-router will see the communication as an unwanted probe and automatically drop it. That is why I said that you should contact Thomson-Speedtouch technical helpdesk to see if they can advise you how to get around your problem.



UK Bob

PS. Seems that I have lost my screen print, I'll add it to the following post.

Lost screen print
 

Abarceo (& everybody else)

Below is my screen print that should have been added to my previous post.


UK Bob

The Thomson Speedtouch 585 (v6) Modem
 

Hi Abarceo

I have just upgraded from my PC from the Speedtouch 510 (v6) to the Speedtouch 585 (v6) modem.

The upgrade went relatively smoothly but, at this stage, I don't know yet if my LW Pro will work even though I have port forwarded the modem exactly the same way I configured the 510.

I have still yet to install the wireless connections but I intend to use WPA rather than WEP encryption.

BTW, hope you have solved your "Direct Connect" problem, let the forum know if you have.



UK Bob

Nope!!! I think it has something to do with my modem (SpeedTouch) or server. I tried to reach SpeedTouch distributor but seemed they don't understand the problem. I'll just wait for the outcome of your setup.
I want to try a single port modem to eliminate the posibility of firewalled.

Abarceo

If you are not fed up with Thomson SpeedTouch modems then you should go for the SpeedTouch ST330 USB modem. I used a previous version of this modem and found it very easy to use as there is no configuration or massive set ups.

Not only that, you do not have to contend with a NAT table/firewall, it is just a plain, plug and play (single user) broadband modem. Here is the URL: Thomson ST 330

Good luck



UK Bob

Thank you Bob.

I'll let you know of the development.

Thomsson SpeedTouch 585 (v6) Wireless Modem-Router
 

Hi Abarceo

How are you? Hope you got you "Direct Connect" problem sorted (once you've got that ST330 there should be no more problems).

Anyway, I finally got my ST585 configured and sorted out the way I want it, and especially without compromising my PCs security.

After a couple of weeks of "getting to know" the manual (which is slightly out of date) I managed to do the following.

a) Set the modem up with my PC (me) as the administrator and I am still using the wired (patch cable) connection.

b) Port Forward my Limewire Pro app, without too much difficulty.

c) Initiate the modem's WPA security feature.

d) Connect my son's PC, which is in his bedroom, wirelessly to the modem.

e) Stop my modem from broadcasting its network name.

f) Set the modem so that only registered wireless users/clients, approved by me, can access it.

g) Connect my son's Sony PSP to the modem as a wireless registered client.

h) Password protected and saved my modem's configuration.

i) Plan to set up my son's mobile phone as a wireless registered client.

After all that, I may get myself a VOIP phone I understand that you can make cheap(er) phone calls.

Anyway, because the latest user manual was slightly out of date, and did not contain full instructions, I found that I had locked myself out of my modem's configuration settings. However, a quick email to Thomson, who responded almost immediately, soon got me back on track.

I must say that initially setting up the 585 is not that straight forwards and it can take some time to get things right. However, once you are over the main "hump" the other problems and solutions just seem to fall into place.

Anyhow, as said at the beginning, hope your set up problems are now behind you.



UK Bob

No, not yet. ST330 is not available and still waiting for the availability. Going back to my modem ST585 I still have many thing to study to set for administrator and so on. I have the installation disk for the configuration. But, I am stucked up with the password given by the modem supplier. The person who assigned my user name & password is nowhere to locate. Is there any way to override the password?

It's great if I can set up my moden the way you did. I ordered
also a Phoneserve Phone box which will be used as VOIP for ADSL connection, though Iam still using my old phoneserve phone modem using dialup connection.
This question may be out of topic. With my phoneserve phone modem (old one), it is mentioned that calling direct using IP to IP addresses is possible. So, if I will be able to solve my firewall problem, IP to IP calls is not a problem using my new phonebox for ADSL.

I'll try to configure my ST585 modem the way you did.

Abarceo

Yes, you can override the username and password but I won't tell you in the open forum, I'll PM you in a minute or two.

Also, I hope you've got the user guide for the 585 because with it, even though it is slightly out of date, you will be completely lost. As you can imagine, I took some time to get to know what was in the manual and what the modem could and could not do, as well as take advice from other web sites about the security features I should initiate.

All in all, the 585 is a complicated beast but once tamed it purrs like a contented cat.



UK Bob

I got already the new username & password, and configured as it was before. Thanks for that.
I want to reconfigure the way you did on your ST585v6. Maybe I can do it by my own, but seems it will take much time for me to study & researching with trial and error to completely understand. As you know, I just learned what is the meaning of IP address...and so fort. So, basically I am zero. To minimize time and effort, can you please give me some shortcut tips detailing the configuration which I can apply directly. What is important to me now is how to get direct connection between PC to PC, considering that I planned also to use 2 telephones with built-in modem (for DSL connection) between two location. This is only possible if IP address can be directly accessed without firewall.

Abarceo

Glad to know that you've got into the configuration part of your 585 (v6) modem.

Now, as I explained before, I don't think that direct connection is possible with any Thomson SpeedTouch modem except the ST330 but, as far as I understand, you can't use an Internet phone with that model.

However, I have been talking to a work colleague that has a friend that regularly communicates with China via an Internet phone. She gets in touch with her friends and relatives via Skype, and I think that will be the answer you are looking for. Here is the URL for Skype, you should be able to find all the answers you want:

Try calling landlines or mobiles with SkypeOut, for free

As for any other configuration problems you may have, let me know and I will send you a screen print of my configuration page.



UK Bob

Skype solve my problem regarding my VOIP (PC to PC). It will be more appreciated if you can send me the print of the configuration page you mentioned. My LW is still firewalled and strongly in need to enable direct connections.

As an alternative to my VOIP, I still want to configure my phone box which will be connected to one of my ST585 ports requiring DHCP (type of LAN that assigns IP addresses automatically). Is ST585 assigns IP addresses automatically? My Local Area Connection Status under tab support/details are:
IP Address : 192.168.1.84 (not the real one)
Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway : 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server : 192.168.1.254
DNS Server : 192.168.1.254

When I checked the assigned IP address in my phonebox(voice message), I got 192.168.1.85(one point higher). Can it be assumed that my network DHCP Server assigns IP addresses automatically? I checked the other ports & same IP addresses (192.168.1.85) have been assigned.

Going back to my ST585 configuration, 10.0.0.138 (web browser configuration) or any one of the above numbers are not recognized by my Windows Internet Explorer (provided by yahoo). So I am facing problem in browsing 10.0.0.138 to configure my ST585 & 192.168.1.83 (IP address required) to configure my phonebox.
I only reconfigured my ST585 using CD provided that maybe outdated.

Hoping to hear more from you UK Bob.

Abarceo

You say your LW is firewalled, so its not "Direct Connection" your after but "Port Forwarding". Once you have port forwarded your modem then the firewall will disappear.

This URL will tell you how to Port Forward your modem:

Port Forwarding for the Thomson/Alcatel SpeedTouch 585i

OK, I have also attached a screen print of my port forwarded configuration screen.

That should be all you need to get LW working with your modem.



UK Bob

PS. I did not use a static IP address to get port forwarding to work, if you check my previous post you will see that my IP configuration with XP is set to receive any address my ISP sends.

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Getting into your Modems configuration Controls
 

Abarceo

First of all, the "username & password" pop-up box will not appear unless you have been into the controls beforehand and set a password.

Secondly, you don't necessarily need the IP address to access the configuration settings, but I must admit that I bookmarked my configuration's home page as I was installing the modem.

Therefore, to get past the initial problem I think you have one of two ways to go.

a) Re-install your modem but bookmark your configuration's home page the first chance you get

OR


b) Send an email to Thomson-SpeedTouch explaining that you cannot get into your configuration controls because you do not have the default IP address for your modem (they may need the serial number). You may also want to mention that someone else set up your modem for you and neglected to bookmark the IP address and/or URL.

Hope this helps



UK Bob

PS. I'm afraid that the IP addresses I have access to will not work for you.

PPS. Get in touch with Thomson directly, not the importers of the modem.

Forget my last post. Actually I cancelled it so that you will not be able to access it. I was not be able to browse 192.169.1.254 because of my LAN setting problem. Now it's OK. I am still working on it (port forwarding). I go back to you for any development. Thank you...

My LW is still FIREWALLED. I've done it exactly the way it was presented.

1. I Assigned new port (between 10000-60000) applied for both (with
clicked)Manual Port Forward & Listen on Port.
2. Same Port number has been applied in the box next to "LimeWire's Port
for incoming connections."
3. Down the "Do not skip this step" I entered one of the new Static IP
Address taken from the series of the Static IP Addresses generated
after entering Default Gateway & Current IP Address.
4. Browsed 192.168.1.254 and the Speed Touch Thomson ST585
appeared. In the toolbox, I assigned & created a "new game or
application" & "Assigned a game or application to a local network
device."
5. In the Defined Games & Applications;
a) "ABC (Another Bittorent Client) Assigned to Unknown-00-0a-e6-e8-
01-d2" (my computer)

ABC (Another Bittorent Client)

ProtocolPort RangeTranslate To ...Trigger ProtocolTrigger Porthttp://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif
TCP 6881 - 6889 6881 - 6889--

Unknown-000a-e6-e8-01-d2

Information
Status: Active
Type: Generic Device
Connected To: WLAN (Wireless)
Allowed on WLAN: Yes

Addressing
Physical Address: 00:0a:e6:e8:01:d2
IP Address Assignement: Static
IP Address: 192.168.1.138 (same as my new IP Address in my TCP/IP


b) Lime Wire (assigned new name) is also on the list with assigned port
number

ProtocolPort RangeTranslate To ...Trigger ProtocolTrigger Port
TCP10201 - 1020110201 - 10201--
UDP10201 - 1020110201 - 10201--

I don't know if these results are correct, though I assumed I did it correctly.
Tomorrow, I will try to checked again my firewall setting (microsoft, anti-virus & etc.) though I am a little bit sure of the correct settings. If I have only the ST330, I can eliminate which firewall is giving problem to my LW.

YES!!! I DID IT...My LW is now working in DIRECT CONNECT.

Thank you very much UK Bob & also want to thank Lord of the Rings.

But, I just want to mention that a little modification on the port setting have been made.

In the "Defined Games & Applications", below figures were generated.
a) ABC (Another Bittorent Client)

ProtocolPort Range.....Translate To ...Trigger ProtocolTrigger Porthttp://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif
TCP... 6881 - 6889.....6881 - 6889..............-................-

b) Lime Wire (assigned new name) is also on the list with assigned port number of 10201

ProtocolPort Range......Translate To ...Trigger ProtocolTrigger Port
TCP10201 - 10201.......10201 - 10201..........-............-............
UDP10201 - 10201.......10201 - 10201..........-............-............

I changed the port setting that is within the range between 6881-6889. That is, 6882 has chosen & also been applied in my LW manual port forward & listen on port.

ProtocolPort Range.......Translate To ...Trigger ProtocolTrigger Port
TCP10201 - 6882...........6882 - 6882.........-.............-.............
UDP10201 - 6882...........6882 - 6882.........-.............-.............

That's it. again thank you...

I already started sharing files using direct connection, though I have this observation. The IP address registered in my direct connect has been changed overnight after re-starting? Is this normal for security reason? Do I need to re-configure my setting to get a fixed IP?

Direct Connect
 

Abarceo

You have your ST585 purring like a contented kitten, leave it be or you might find things going wrong that you won't be able to recover from.

I too have found that the ST585 seem to change certain settings of it's own accord, I presume that this is UPnP kicking in and changing things. But hey, as long as it still works.

As for Direct Connect, somehow I thing you have the terminology mixed up (not that it really matters) but "Direct Connect" is when you are able to make a one to one connection with another LW user. While "port forwarding", which I believe you have configured your modem to perform, is enabling LW to work normally, i.e. you downloading from other LW users while LW users download from you.

However, none of this matters as long as have got this beast tamed.



UK Bob

Thanks...