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Patchmaster March 6th, 2002 11:38 PM

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I agree that the FastTrack system that Morpheus used under license has some problems, but it was/is the most advanced file sharing program to date.
I was referring to the new Morpheus client, which is nothing more than Gnucleus with most occurrences of "Gnucleus" changed to "Morpheus". (If you look through options screens you'll see a few instances of "gnucleus" still in there.) I agree that the FastTrack-based client was pretty good; much better than anything the gnutella network has to offer at the moment.

Protagonist March 7th, 2002 03:59 AM

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Originally posted by diefastr
I just figured there has to be a reason that different versions are put out for each diff operating system. Like I said i'm not a java programmer.... just a ****ed off user. If you can explain it to me great, i'm all for gaining extra knowledge.
I'm fairly sure the only difference between the various versions released is in the packaging and installation routines.

Someone else asked for an easier way to get a patched version. The two main reasons I didn't just provide a link to a windows installer are 1) that I don't run windows, and 2) that I don't have anywhere to host the file.

diefastr: Let me know how your patched version works out. In my experience resuming hasn't been completely foolproof after the patch, but it works most of the time. Unfortunately, it seems that the version of the source available at the link I gave above has another bug which causes instability after running for a few hours.

Finally, let me try to provide some insight into why resuming suddenly stopped working after version 1.8 or so. It's mainly because of the "swarm downloads", or whatever they're calling them. In order to support downloading the same file from multiple hosts, LimeWire splits up the file in a number of smaller parts, each assigned to one host.

To take a simple example: Let's say you're downloading a 10 meg file from two hosts. LimeWire will start downloading the first 5 megs from one host, and the second 5 megs from the other. If the download breaks off at 50%, you'll have an incomplete file containing the parts from 0-25% and 50-75% of the original data. (This is assuming the download speed has been the same from both hosts, otherwise you'd have different percentages.)

This, naturally, makes resuming a much more difficult process, because LimeWire can't just take a look at the size of the incomplete file and start off at the end. It has to keep a record of all the incomplete files and which parts of them are complete. There were mechanisms for this in the source I downloaded, but it wasn't working properly. My patch fixes some of it (probably not all), but the one thing it doesn't fix at all is all the incomplete files you had prior to installation of the patched version, because it simply has no way of knowing which parts of those incomplete files are missing.

I was planning on adding a mechanism for recovering "unknown" incomplete files by assuming they've been downloaded continuously from a single host, and not split up in any way. This should work in most cases, at least for my files; I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

[EDIT]By the way, this is the same Unregistered user who posted the patch above. I decided to register, to avoid confusion.[/EDIT]

Unregistered March 7th, 2002 06:13 AM

I just bought the pro version but I am disappointed. Resume obviously does not work. I have also had it hang a couple of times. Probably a function of being based on Java. This is a 2ghz XP machine with 1 gig of memory. Everything else works great. I seriously doubt my problems are machine specific. I really like the idea of getting away from kazaa to a truly public network such a gnutella with what I thought was the best client "limewire." So far it's a no go.

Unregistered March 7th, 2002 01:06 PM

So from what I can tell so far there is no solution to the "resume file download question" and it doesn't work on the paid pro version either.

Does that sum things up?

Protagonist March 7th, 2002 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
So from what I can tell so far there is no solution to the "resume file download question" and it doesn't work on the paid pro version either.

Does that sum things up?

My patch still works, at least for me. I just did a checkout of the latest source from cvs, made the same modifications there, and compiled; resuming works fine.

Protagonist March 7th, 2002 02:29 PM

New patch
 
1 Attachment(s)
Attached to this message is a new patch, applicable to the current cvs tree. It tries to deal with old incomplete files in addition to doing what the other patch did.

Instructions for CVS checkout can be found here: http://core.limewire.org/servlets/ProjectSource. (To compile a working client you'll need the gui project as well: http://gui.limewire.org/servlets/ProjectSource) Remember to modify the gui run script to use the patched local core project instead of the bundled jar.

Apply the patch by placing it in the root directory (below the core and gui directories) and typing
patch -p0 < &lt;patch-filename&gt;
.

Unregistered March 8th, 2002 03:48 PM

ok, this patch sounds great, but I have no idea how to use it...
can someone post step by step "patching for idiots" instructions? from what I understand, we have to modify the code and compile it, but I just don't know how to do that. it'd be nice if someone could do all the modifications and just post the file online somewhere for ppl to download, or, even better, contact the developers and get these modifications included in the next version of limewire so that we don't ever have to deal with this again...

aerialbomber March 9th, 2002 12:32 AM

As I recall somebody saying part of the resume problem is the swarm downloads, I think part of the solution would be to save each download as a separate file, then merge the files when they are all done. (ie save File A as File A (1 of 5, goal: 0 to 100 kb), File A (2 of 5, goal 100 to 200 kb) and on down the line). When these are merged, these fragments can be deleted, either by the program or manually.

Unregistered March 9th, 2002 01:32 AM

Only problem I can see with above would be character limits on some operating systems.

Unregistered March 9th, 2002 10:01 AM

would the patch also fix the problem with different file names?
the separate files idea sounds like it would

Protagonist March 9th, 2002 10:11 AM

The patch will not do anything to fix issues with different filenames. One way to deal with that might be to look for similar words in the names of identically-sized files; another solution is file checksums/signatures. Of those the latter is much harder to implement, requiring a protocol addition. Either way, I'm going to leave it to the real developers.

Unregistered March 9th, 2002 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Protagonist
I'm going to leave it to the real developers.
lol, good luck, you're probably going to have to wait a while

Unregistered March 9th, 2002 10:38 AM

the patch is more than fine the way it is, thanks Protagonist

Unregistered March 10th, 2002 03:32 AM

No idea what to do .. ? I used to use Kazaa and Morpheus but I had some problems with them. Now I downloaded LimeWire 2.2.3 but it doesn't resume.
I really think this is very bad, because the resume feature is why I use a gnutella client. It's very handy to just get a part of a big file every time you log on.

I think i'm gonna try running 1.8 instead of 2.2.3 :S

Protagonist March 10th, 2002 04:56 AM

Has anyone tried 2.2.4 yet? I'm really surprised they haven't done anything to fix the resume problems yet. I'm guessing they're expecting people to always use the "shutdown after transfers" option.

Unregistered March 10th, 2002 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by Protagonist
Has anyone tried 2.2.4 yet?
where would you get it? the most recent beta i can find is 2.2.1

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I'm really surprised they haven't done anything to fix the resume problems yet.
i have a nagging suspicion that they're ignoring everything in this thread. there've been developer's responses to every other major thread, but there's nothing in this one, the biggest & most often viewed of the board.

Quote:

I'm guessing they're expecting people to always use the "shutdown after transfers" option.
i don't think i even need to say anything about this.... if bearshare had ultranodes, i'd be over there right now. i'm betting that lots of people who don't care as much as i do about the "health of the network" are just going to get sick of this and switch over to the simpler client.

Protagonist March 10th, 2002 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
where would you get it? the most recent beta i can find is 2.2.1
I'm not sure about other versions, but the Linux version currently available from the download page (http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/download) is 2.2.4.

Unregistered March 10th, 2002 05:02 PM

http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark...s/limewire.jpg

the first one has restarted twice and the second one is at 110%

what's going on with this POS program, i'm getting really fed up with this crap...

Unregistered March 10th, 2002 06:21 PM

Limewire is great, I used it to download XoloX, and haven't had a problem resuming since. people will tell you it's dead, but thats just because no one makes any money if you use xolox.

Ren.Hoek March 18th, 2002 03:18 PM

ttt

Let's fix this damn problem!!

Unregistered March 18th, 2002 04:35 PM

this thread was long dead, notice that it was started two months ago. we complained for that long and didn't get a single response. i doubt they're going to say anything now. just do what i did, give up and move to bearshare.


i'm just counting the days until morpheus is back and i won't have to deal with these pos programs....

Ren.Hoek March 19th, 2002 09:40 AM

Yes. I noticed the thread was old and close to dead but why not bring it back to the forefront? Maybe next year sometime when the development team (sic) read this forum next they will see the 1st 200 pages devoted to this problem.




:rolleyes:

rasd1 March 22nd, 2002 07:33 AM

as lame as the no resume is... limewire rocks! i have dloaded countless files easily and quickly. d:D

dimagor March 22nd, 2002 12:13 PM

Well, beta 2.3.0 is supposed to fix this problem, but can anyone confirm?

Also, I noticed some strange behavior by LimeWire:

For example, there is a file named 123.mp3, when I search for it,
I get two groups of files, with THE SAME NAME AND SIZE, but they are still seperated.

Unregistered March 22nd, 2002 01:01 PM

GOOD LORD!

i can't resume.

what a SIMPLE problem to fix.

give me the source. i'll fix it.
i'll fix it NOW.

they want me to pay for this program,
them and their SIX developers, but no
one will fix the resume.

i bet adobe, or someone, has paid them
to leave this broken.

jerks.

Unregistered March 23rd, 2002 12:27 AM

hey last post, I agree.

the thing is, that Gnucleus has open sorce code, and no one even fixed that-different problems, but the same result. I just started using the new lamewire, and with limited sucess. the trick is that it works ok if you are patient. VERY patient. you must accept the loss of several hundred meg(in my case), or you must move on. I cannot even grab download with some of the other clients, and I am still shopping. for those of us that miss Morpheus, it is like making love to a true hottie. you will remember it allways-but it will probably never happen again. the good thing is there is allways another hottie. Morpheus is bogged with adds and popups. I do not see how they can go back from that level of commercialization. but as napster became extinct, and Morphius took its marketshare; morphieus will die and leave us something better. it does not appear to be lamewire, and perhaps not Gnutella at all, however, I have every confidence that there is not enough bad code in the world that will keep us from shareing files.

Unregistered June 26th, 2002 05:33 PM

Up!
 
Could anyone get a solution?

I have LimeWire 2.4.4, and an incomplete download with 36 MB (modem connection!), and when I'm trying to resume, it restarts from the scratch (in the same file) or in a new file... :-(((

Thanks!

MaurOS X

Unregistered July 12th, 2002 06:02 PM

1.8 download
 
Here are some links to the 1.8 system for those who are interested in trying
it.
http://www9.limewire.com/download/LimeWireMac.bin
http://www3.limewire.com/download/
http://www3.limewire.com/download/1.8b/
http://limewire.gnutelliums.com/1.8c/


Lisa


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