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Lord of the Rings October 11th, 2005 04:36 PM

Scam version of FrostWire
 
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I'm just wondering how long before this happens. I'd be curious to know what if anything could be done to prevent or stop it when or if it happens. There's always going to be the gullible to these types of advertisements who won't be aware it can be obtained for free. :rolleyes: :(

et voilà October 11th, 2005 05:37 PM

Well that means is that FW is now known, if you see positive side of things ;)

Currently searching google gives frostwire 1 140 000 hits!!! It's growing exponentionally (search results wise). Weird since we don't even have availabe installers yet :)

Hurry beta, hurry, lol

Ciao

pawelsz October 11th, 2005 05:54 PM

Many peoples will think about FROSTWIRE as another scam version of LIMEWIRE [just right now]


Maybe its war against FW ? :cool:

Lord of the Rings October 11th, 2005 06:02 PM

Don't be mistaken, that image I posted is not real FW google ads. It was made from scam LW ads by replacing the name. But the point I'm trying to make is that eventually, it may well happen & what should or could be done about it is what I'm asking.

stief October 11th, 2005 06:19 PM

I kinda doubt it will happen (the scammers depend on name recognition), but LW has had so much trouble getting those scammers stopped, I doubt FW will have better luck.

It hasn't happened with Phex, and it has been around a long time. ;)

Hell--even these forums can't block those ads fast enough!

and pawelsz, thanks for getting rid of that oversized image. Why not just shrink it to avatar sizeif you want to keep using it?

Only A Hobo October 11th, 2005 06:42 PM

It seems to me that the problem with the scam sites ... well the one that I got into as far as I could without releasing my CC details .... do not mention the name Limewire until you've paid your money and it's too late, so I'm not so sure the Scammers DO depend on name recognition. They just get the application which is easiest for them, and won't hopefully give them too many headaches. If the tried to spam phex, the spammers web site would crash with every single buyer asking how on earth it worked:)

How do you stop the spammers ... that's a question I think I'll sleep on G'night all

stief October 11th, 2005 06:52 PM

Good night.

When you get a chance, compare what happens when you google "limewire," "frostwire" then "phex"

The scam sponsored links come out on top for LW here, which shows they've keyed on that term for my area. I figure it will be much the same for you :)

Grandpa October 11th, 2005 07:23 PM

Hobo

I think you are going to have to sleep for a very long time to figure that one out. Not being pessimistic but if you could figure out how to stop the bottom feeding scammers you would be a very rich and powerful person.

You would have to be able to change the laws to where the penalties for scamming people would be so severe that the risk would not be worth the rewards.

trap_jaw4 October 12th, 2005 06:49 AM

Well, since FrostWire is free and word will get around that there is no PRO version of FrostWire, I believe those scams will not work in the long run.

Since it costs around € 1,000 to register a trademark, we can't force them to stop legally.

verdyp October 22nd, 2005 11:35 AM

Note that the modified sources of FrostWire are NOT legal, because it does not respect the original LimeWire authorship in its copyright notice.

Changing the copyright unilaterally from "Copyright (c) 2000-2005 Limewire" to "Copyright (c) Frostwire" is NOT permitted by the GPL. LimeWire MUST be credited as the original work, and the derivative work must make it clear that this is not the original LimeWire software.

If there are modifications that consists in bundling other software not based on LimeWire work, the additional copyright notices for the relevant parts must be integrated in addition to the original Limewire copyright. If Frostwire creates its own modules, it must publish them under a GPL licence, or a licence compatible with the GPL (i.e. a compatible licence listed by the GNU Foundation).

In fact I doubt of the claimed motivations that pushed to the creation of a separate FrostWire branch. Currently, LimeWire does not filter content.

It adds features that allows users to select whever or not to trust some content, by allowing them to verify the claimed licences of files shared on the Gnutella network (and now it integrates the support to verify the licence deeds under Creative Commons and WeedShare).

This is very different, because it is the user, not the software alone, that chooses and acts responsibly.

A user may continue effectively to download a copyrighted and restricted file from Gnutella, as long as it owns a licence for it.

And a user may share any copyrighted content on Gnutella as long as he has obteined a legal right to redistribute it freely on a public medium such as Gnutella. If that publishing user only has a limited right to be a distributor without allowing redistribution, then that user must attach a licence that binds the shared file to these distribution terms, and LimeWire will download that licence and will help downloaders to keep the track of this limitative licence.

Then it's up to users to act responsibly, and LimeWire will not filter files simply because it does not know whever the user is or is not allowed to share that file. In that case, LimeWire will not prevent users from doing that, but will display a warning to that user for files without clear licencing terms.

For files that have a clear licence, no limitation will be performed (except that users may also elect to apply additional filters against contents they consider offensive, such as pornography). It's not an unilateral decision implemented in the software, the user is always involved, and makes the final decision.


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