Birdy thankyou for your reply, the message i get when i try to delete is: This is nolonger located in shared folder verify the items location and try again, when i try to open the file at its location it just takes me back to the shared folder which is now empty, but when i do a search all the files reappear, also if i press start and do a search from there they also appear on the left column, tried booting in safe mode did a search and low and behold there not there??. did a virus scan with mcafee and the computer is all clear. also tried with LWs shutdown and also removed from from the computer but still no luck.