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cootmaster November 30th, 2009 07:46 PM

after years virues appear
 
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this weird but i scanned my H drive external
and already 2 different programs
both Older versions
flv converter and frostwire 4.13x and 417x have heuristic viruses ALL fully removed
virus is ADWARE.GEN
they been fine for yers

anyone know why my norton finding virues in old versions software

cootmaster November 30th, 2009 07:51 PM

after years virues appear
 
i posted this
virus question in frostwire
but why is my norton finding viruses in old versions of software with no issues
i cold see a key gen or something but these are just old installers


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birdy November 30th, 2009 09:40 PM

Maybe false positives?

Have you asked at the Norton forum?

This might have some info: Adware.gen - Norton Internet Security / Norton AntiVirus - Norton Community


cootmaster November 30th, 2009 09:51 PM

i have 2009 NAV
but why is it finding stuff in old software
are these false
the forum has solutions but bit confusing
i do have AE by lava soft

sorry double post i didnt see this area ;)

birdy November 30th, 2009 10:01 PM

I don't know.

I don't use either of those programs. I'm just giving you info that I found :blink:

Maybe updates of either Norton or Ad-aware, or both, have magnified the conflict between the two?

cootmaster November 30th, 2009 10:03 PM

ok i sent that link to Adaware
i do have newest norton
ty:)

ukbobboy01 December 2nd, 2009 05:43 AM

New AV detecting Old Viruses
 
Hi cootmaster

I may have an answer to your question, namely why is my new AV detecting old viruses that my previous AV missed.

Well, a friend of mine had the same problem when he used to use NAV2005 so that when he upgraded to NAV2007 he found a previously undetected virus.

Providing what you have are not false positives, then the way to look at it is like an "arms race", like the old arms race between the US and communist Russia. Each army, in this case the virus/malware writers and the protective apps writers, are trying to out do each other. Virus/malware writers, funded internationally by organised crime, are constantly looking for ways to evade detection, that way you do not know that you are infected. While anti-malware writers are looking to catch up on and, in most cases, get the jump on the new breed of malware that is constantly being produced.

I guess that you found some malware designed to evade your then protective app but your new AV caught them.

By the way, I also use NAV2009 (actually NIS2009, which contains both NAV and NPF 2009), as well as six other anti-spyware/malware apps.


UK Bob

cootmaster December 2nd, 2009 08:41 AM

but i run a scan on h drive every sat
and find nothing untill a app one sat blows
so is it not seeing it other weeks?

these are aps i run since 1998 or even early versions of frost hand they ran fine

michwayne December 2nd, 2009 10:51 AM

its likely that Norton updated its virus definitions apps that where not found to be a virus before could show as a virus now still could be a false positive.

cootmaster December 2nd, 2009 11:05 AM

ya trillian 4117 beta is started to alert kayspry

the software they blew were old versions of frostwire 413x 417x
which i had for years
and a old flv you tube downloader
i switched to vdownloader w just a ask tool bar and not suspicious junk

now as i get software lets say frostwire 4,18.0 before installing it is fine\
this includes 418 0 1 2 3 4....

then 419 comes out which is fine all sudden
ill notice 418 0 blows
i removed all outdated software


seems old old dated exes blow
so as new norton defs come out its odd it catches stuff posed as clean

so how we know whats safe to install

michwayne December 2nd, 2009 11:24 AM

I'm always suspicious to new programs as for old apps when i got s&d it wants to remove wild-tangent i was like what the lol. i particularly don't like ask toolbar most of the time i look the program up on the web for reviews you never can be to careful but i just remove it if Norton points it out as malicious.

ukbobboy01 December 2nd, 2009 12:47 PM

Old Free Software
 
Guys

Something to remember, some old free software are not as "free" as they claim to be because they contained adware/spyware and back then protective apps writers did not consider "adware/spyware" to be dangerous or needed any kind of attention.

Now, however, anything that is not part of your O/S or a legitimate software installation is considered to be malware and therefore potentially dangerous.


UK Bob

cootmaster December 2nd, 2009 12:56 PM

strange because download com SAYS
WE TRUST EVERYTHING 100%
we TESTED IT
look this

Quote:

ersion: Free Tube Finder 4.9

"Caution Norton Antivirus 2009 Says Virus and removes it"

by jcherry46 on December 9, 2008

Pros: None Didnt get to Test it.

Cons: Caution: Norton Antivirus removes it saying its a Virus Downloader.

Summary: Use Caution.
Quote:

e test all software products submitted to us against a comprehensive set of criteria. In addition to screening for common viruses and spyware, we also look for other threats that might interfere with our users' security, privacy, and control. We consider publisher Web sites, publisher conduct, and our own experience with a particular product.
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btw anyone now brothersoft is a good mirror
both lingoes and vdownloader is here and i saw red tube on HERE only under vdownloader
im skeptical this site reputable

michwayne December 2nd, 2009 02:24 PM

any more there's only a few sites i trust for freeware filehippo, Windows Sysinternals: Documentation, downloads and additional resources , MajorGeeks.com - Download Freeware and Shareware Computer Utilities. i have got some programs through cnet but in sceptical i might just back out guess you cant be too careful if you do your banking on line or purchase things online although i try not to be too paranoid as long as it doesn't slow my comp down or show up as malicious.:D

cootmaster December 2nd, 2009 02:31 PM

i know DL com SHOULD be safe
but as above mabee isnt LOL
i think tucows is
any info on brosoft?
i see tons thinks here but don't appear on dl com
like redtube is here for anime but not even listed on google
and WOT for firefox flags the parent site orange

lingoes is BOTH on brosoft and dl com

michwayne December 2nd, 2009 02:46 PM

i don't know about brosoft sorry.

Sleepless December 2nd, 2009 04:04 PM

Some of those virus signature databases aren't all that great. Last time I did an online scan using Panda and Trendmicro, they both found more than 10 "harmful" files. I knew each and everyone of them and they're clean as a whistle. I admit they were all what could be considered hacktools, keygens etc. but none of them would do anything malicious on any computer.

cootmaster December 2nd, 2009 04:29 PM

ya well its odd that old versions of software i had hanging round got hit
ikeep everything just in case i need re install
or loose it
flv bombed i guess that finely blew up
i used version 032- 75 and .64 blew so i went with the recommended vdownloader before it blew though
frostwire that was surprising 4.13x 417x also blew13 very old version
but 4 18 was the last version out

so ya eaither false positives or norton is doing its job finding things it doesnt like

well its DOING I PAYED FOR -ITS JOB:)

they are also in H drive AWAY from the computer
i threw out aloot old versions software i never use or outdated

cootmaster December 5th, 2009 09:08 AM

Quote:

4.13.4 used to appear as malware on some antiviruses. We got word from Ask that they were talking to antivirus companies. After 4.13.4 we've updated their toolbar to lots of newer versions and they no longer should appear as a threat under any antivirus. If this happens it's usually Ask's duty to talk to the AV company to remove their software from the malware list.
gubatron creator/developer of frost


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