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Default Bearshare servents

Apparently, the servents on connect*.gnutellanet.com are all bearshare servents. Do these have any restrictions on what client can be used? I know *.bearshare.com servents don't like 3rd party clients...
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Neither *.bearshare.net nor *.gnutellanet.com discriminate against third party clients. They'll drop connections from people running Gnutella 0.4 clients, including old versions of Bearshare... in which case, you just upgrade, and you're set.
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Or be a good little hacker and hex edit the 0.4 text and change it to 0.6 on a old client.
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That wouldn't work, handshake is more different.

Also it is known that bearshare.net host caches do only accept Bearshare clients, Limewire does similiar with it's own hostcaches AFAIK. See the FAQ
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That wouldn't work, handshake is more different.

Also it is known that bearshare.net host caches do only accept Bearshare clients, Limewire does similiar with it's own hostcaches AFAIK. See the FAQ
Your FAQ is inaccurate moak.. Have you even tried to connect to all the bearshare host caches with a newer servent that has .6 handshaking? I did with a few non-bearshare servents shareaza and gnucleus and they worked..

Judging from the AFAIK and "Also it is known" you havent..

Moak you must do your own dirty work and if your going to make FAQs and help people you must be ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that the information is 100% CORRECT else you are hurting more people than you are helping. Relaying on opinions, second guessing and heresay for information is not in the best interest of people and IMHO does more harm than good. Dont get in involved if your not willing to do what it takes.
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You are all invited to update the FAQ and write more Gnutella programming articles! If Freepeers strange behaviour of clustering and disadvantaging has changed, give clear & friendly information so any moderator could update the FAQ. Please do not insult.

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You are all invited to update the FAQ and write more Gnutella programming articles! If Freepeers strange behaviour of clustering and disadvantaging has changed, give clear & friendly information so any moderator could update the FAQ. Please do not insult.
Even better you could donate it to a project like rfc-gnutella if they want to use it or release it by adding a post to the end of it allowing others to edit, modify, distribute it, gpl like.

I wasnt trying to be insulting and im sorry if you feel that way. But not knowing where the data is and not having accurate data was a big problem for gnutella which you among all people should understand.
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You are all invited to update the FAQ and write more Gnutella programming articles! If Freepeers strange behaviour of clustering and disadvantaging has changed, give clear & friendly information so any moderator could update the FAQ. Please do not insult.
Why don't you just try it for yourself?

Nobody ever said anything about clustering. That's something totally different, and it only really affects Bearshare clients. The only host-cache that doesn' allow third party clients is router.limewire.com.

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I only wish I had a dime for every time someone bashed Freepeers based on hearsay, opinions, and just plain Bearshare bashing.
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If you don't like it make it better and provide improvements.
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That wouldn't work, handshake is more different.
Since it only returns a pong with some IPs, are you sure it won't work?
And those connect1.xxx links are bearshare nodes, so yes they do let non bearshare clients get IPs.
Anyone developing a client should be using what gnucleus uses since it's not a central point anymore.
Moak, the clustering attempt by vinnie to get more market share was a great waste of vinnies time, it backfired on him when morpheus took all his market share.
He can now cluster all the way to zero users.
Looks like Shareaza is going to further kick bearshares market in the butt.
So the water is fine here now Moak, jump back on in!
Hope Shareaza goes open source.
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