Scandalous pedophile on gnutella network.
 

I was downloading some song when I saw a title who looked strange "Child porn 10 yr film 14_03 preteen *******.mpeg" I download it to see what it was exactly and I was horrified when I saw that was a real pedophile video. I come from Belgium and I find that so horrible. If there is some Hackers who could kill these computer, that could be fun.
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Internet is not a bin for ruined guys.

You cant avoid it completely.

I am searching for adult content, searching for keywords like "*******".

Then I mark randmomly about 100 files and go to work.

So I also received that kind of files. When I watch my files i kill them of course. But in meantime also on my computer are that kind of movies.

I agree to you that those people who spread this files should be punished (sent to jail as our laws do not allow harder punishments) but it isnt always that the computer you downloaded that file from is from a pedo.

I am NOT and believe me: Because of my logs i know that lots of persons downloaded those files.

I think it would be a big help if those clients start to include an automatic filter for preteen, kiddy, etc.

hi guys

this is exactly why I am looking for a tool that scans the messages shared with my peers. If I understood the principle of peer to peer correctly, all kind of search strings pass through my machine. If I could set up a filter for the keywords you mentioned (see gnutellameter.com: "preteen" is #18 of all searched strings!) this would be all I could do - at least such downloads couldn't be initiated thanks to my being peer.

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well. thats a really GREAT IDEA!

perhaps we could win the LimeWare, Bearshare, etc. to do that!!!

but on the other way: isn't there the danger that those b*stards just use other keywords and just call it "teen" and you even got MORE of this stuff even if you do not want it?

I also think its a huge problem. When you mark say 100 filenames without looking, theres no telling what you end up with on your computer. And its really sad that people not looking for that kind, without consent at worst partisipate in sharing it.

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I've had a look at that myself (Of course, I deleted those files from my HD immediately) and had found that some of the JPGs don't actually contain childporn but a text that asks the users to stop distributing childporn.
As I think this is a good idea, I made a picture with the GIMP showing the following text:

"Please be aware that the possession of child porn is a crime and that you can be put into jail for it!
I know from a trustworthy source that the police are actually participating in the network and are doing IP-backtracking.
So, if you distribute/download such material over the net, you're in real danger!
For your own security: If you own such material, delete it!"

I then saved the file under a name that would assure the right persons to find it "worth downloading".

What do you think about this strategy?

People aren't idiots
 

It's nearly impossible to block anything on gnutella. Not to mention, it's nearly impossible to prove anyone actually intended to share files like that... While the police can tell you to remove specific files, it's only if you don't that they have anything to prosecute you on.


Your idea of filtering search results is not a good one. It would only mean that searches to your own files would not reveal any of those files. Also, people have the freedom to use any client they want, and most being open source, anyone could remove a restriction such as that.

Make them sick back
 

It was funny when I got a jpg that was "lolita preteen sex" (and a lot of other "normal" keywords so it downloaded), but it was a stick figure with boobs and a "bush" and missing teeth. I was ROTFLMAO for a hour! I have been sharing it back, it was too funny and it's fun seeing that others have uploaded it from me.

Another guy suggested blasting non sicko jpgs under the same sort of names. Good idea.

You could make thim really sick by uploading a mpg movie of yourself naked under those keywords. Being a old fart myself I know that would make anyone sick!

Revenge is yours!

You guys all think that it's a good idea to post mislabeled stuff, but you all downloaded the file too. How would youj like it if you downloaded a file by "accident" as you say you have and you find some naked old man?
Mislabeled files are the last thing we need on Gnutella. That was one of the problems with Napster that made it suck so bad. Shame on you for your viglante censorship, you're as bad as they are.
I'm not an advocate of kiddy porn, but I also don't tell you how to run your life. Another above poster suggested that someone hack users who possess this file. Well, half of the posters on this thread possessed this file, whether by accident or not I don't know and I don't care. Should they be hacked too?
Just ignore the stuff you don't like and enjoy the stuff you do.

Freaks & geeks
 

there are a lot of woman out there that would like that. so whats wrong with naked old men?
I think theay were saying they would use the same name as the real kiddy file so it replaces it eventualy. not a bad idea

We must fight back
 

To answer the person who said that we shouldn't do anything about it and we shouldn't tell him how to run his life:

If you don't want to join us who would like to fight such behaviour on Gnutella network, then step aside and don't tell us how to run our lives or how to behave.

In addition to other measures, I suggest that each one of us should check the files that they have downloded and 'clean' them regularly.

Another danger of mis-labeling
 

Another reason not to mis-label is so you don't accidentally get caught in vigilante reprisals yourself. Just recently there's been a new email virus that looks for suspiciously named files and sends a report to one of a number of law enforcement agencies. ;-)

Kinda a fun idea, but although a filename doesn't prove anything, you really don't want to be in the position of having to prove you're *not* a child pornographer!

Also you don't want to download this stuff even accidentally. In the USA, just having the stuff on your HD is enough to get you sent to prison, and I doubt the procecution or jury will care how it got there.

Many gnutella clients allow you to filter search results that have certain keywords. I'll usually make a list to filter out results with pre-teen, preteen, lolita etc. I don't want to see this stuff let alone accidentally download any of it (which in some clients is all to easy to do - especially when the terms are hidden in very long filenames).

Re: We must fight back
 

I agree with you & as far as a filter backfiring on you & sending your IP to the police for having a particularly nasty file in your system, well I don't think that's really a problem in that pig pedophiles don't just have one or two mistakenly downloaded files of that crap-they've usually been at their sicko "hobby" for a while & have Huge amounts of sick ****.

Unless those files are showing up in large numbers on your HD, I can't imagine that being a reason to be busted because you'd have to be blind not to see your HD is running out of memory & that's not exactly something you're not going to notice-on the other hand, if those files are showing up enmass & it's obvious that you're one sick MF, then you Should be busted! It's what you deserve!

I really hate those words: "do nothing"

Re: Scandalous pedophile on gnutella network.
 

Why downloading when the title says child porn 10 yr ???????
Just curiousity or are you sick !!!!

just curious how a mpeg/mpg file showed up in an audio search... and what song was named child 10yo whatever... seriously... get real you where curious or something ok fine you deleted it great! you kept it you're a sicker person than i, and i hope noone takes pitty on you in court.

sad state of affairs when you can't use the net for porn
 

I personally think the internet has reached the state where you can no longer safely use it for porn. There is too much corrupting stuff out there.

Even on the most wholesome www sites, there are usually schoolgirl and/or teen categories. (OK, they aren't real schoolgirls or teens, but how many girls do you meet who dress as schoolgirls and use a teddybear as a sex toy?)

You pays your money you takes your chances.

However, I think it would be nice and somewhat effective to have clients which allow filtering of user-defined strings (could be in a config file easy to download and distribute) which drop any passing search for said content, instead of passing it on (or replying;-).

If enough users get these filters, then it would become very hard to search for this stuff without making a seperate network.

Sure, they will start to use the word 'teen' instead of 'preteen' - they already do. You take a risk to download any jpg (or mpg?), as far as I can tell.

Stick to the mp3s ;-)

Perhaps we could kindly request the paedos to encrypt their files? It would be better for everyone! Then they can use the extension .pgp or something, and we won't find the files when we search for .jpg.

For a while I did post a tremendously horrible picture of a disfigured man, under a title containing what I thought were keywords used by pedophiles.
So that's my suggestion.

I don't dare do anything of the sort these days by fear of seeing the police arrive here, thinking I'm actually sharing kiddie porn...

(I got the picture in question on rotten.com. -I'd browsed my way there after a friend's suggestion. AND I REGRETTED BADLY !
That little trip even kind of scared my off the internet for a few days. Nevertheless, I managed to save the one picture, thinking it could come in handy if ever I hated someone reeeaaallllll bad. And pedophiles are pretty much in that category.)

Re: People aren't idiots
 

Actually posession of child porn is a crime. If you live in the US, it would be very easy for the police to find your IP by setting up clients and monitoring traffic on the network and then check that info with your ISP, get a warrent, bust down your door and seize your computer. If there is child porn on your harddrive then you are guilty, buddy.

Of course I don't think they would go after you if you had only one picture, but if you had thousands of them, they would... they mostly try to catch the people who make/distribute for profit the stuff, though. Because without the people who make money off it, it wouldn't exist at all... Nobody creates content just to share it on P2P networks.

Actually a clever programmer could create a program that would monitor gnutella queries for childporn activity, then record the date/time/IP. The user could then complain to the pervert's ISP and probably get them banned. Of course this sort of vigilante justice is treading a dangerous path... I think the "middle road" of merley refusing to propagate the childporn queries is the best solution.

Re: Another danger of mis-labeling
 

You especially don't want to be in the position when they might actually find something on your disk even though you deleted it when you found out what it is. I don't think the law cares that you didn't want the material. All that matters is possesion.

Yes it's true it's a scary topic but you better be careful what you wish for if you're saying you receive these files "by accident". How is one to know if it's "accident" or intentional?

Unless you are a law enforcement agent, what the #@$! are you doing downloading something called preteen *******? What did you expect it would be? Let the police take care of the child pornographers.

Downloading it wasn't the smartest idea, you could tell from the title what it probably would be right? I'm not sure why Belgium is relevant here.

This network is not just for songs
 

As They say, if a file can be put on a computer it can be found on the p2p network. .exe, .bat, .sys, .ini, .jpg, .mp3, .move and so on. So if you just download masses of, oh lets say porn. Then you are sure to get something you don't want. Same thing with music, some of it sounds like it a tape recorder and mic job. If you download masses of mp3s at once, you will also get the crap and trash. However, if you download something and don't delete it, then you will have it, and you will indirectly share it. BE CAREFUL!
In short, GET OFF YOUR SOAP BOX! It can happen to anyone! This is why I only download the songs I want. I never search for .exe (due to viruses), or .jpg (as the name can be misleading).