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sanelson June 26th, 2002 01:32 AM

Or,
 
Just pay attention to the files that you're downloading with your own client. I guaranf'ing-t you that alot of these downloads are coming from Bearshare clients. Why are you complaining again?

Unregistered June 26th, 2002 02:38 AM

thanks cultiv8r
 
In fact, I am a developper. At the moment, I am making some test with the differents clients. I didn't know that the special bearshare URL was generated for the browsers only. I will continue my test with programming instead of browser..

many thanx

Unregistered June 26th, 2002 05:35 AM

Isn't it silly for vinnie to block browsers since bearshare has such a very, very small market share now?
I think Gnucleus allows browser downloading, and so does Morpheus (the largest market share).
What about XoloX?

Unregistered June 26th, 2002 06:56 AM

maybe...
 
Perhaps it prevents from being sux with software like teleport pro,etc. which are mass downloaders.
It could be a good feature...

--Goo

wheelz-off June 26th, 2002 08:35 AM

It also prevents companies from getting lists of your shared files, or makes it more difficult anyway.

Unregistered June 28th, 2002 08:46 PM

Isn't it silly for vinnie to block browsers since bearshare has such a very, very small market share now?

What doesn't market share matter? BearShare lets me choose to let browsers download from me or not. I personally hate leechers, so I turn off browser downloading in BearShare.

Morgwen June 29th, 2002 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wheelz-off
It also prevents companies from getting lists of your shared files, or makes it more difficult anyway.
Do we really need a browse host feature? I think not...

Morgwen

Vinnie June 29th, 2002 07:57 AM

Well
 
I don't have a problem against leechers.

The problem is when there is such a massive volume of leechers that regular people can't get files.

Such was the situation when BearShare was first release. BearShare was the first Gnutella servent to show the User-Agent in uploads.

All of a sudden, people were asking "Hey, what's this Mozilla, is it another Gnutella servent?".

The answer is, NO! It was browsers, and they were taking up 98 PERCENT OF ALL UPLOAD SLOTS!

It was the primary cause for busy signals in Gnutella.

MusicCity is pretty stupid for allowing browsers, now we will see those web sites that leech Gnutella and show banners spring back up like weeds, and pretty soon you will never be able to get files from Morpheus users.

Again, I don't mind freeloaders (BearShare has no anti-freeloader features), as long as the network can support both the freeloaders and the people who share.

Unfortunately, a network which allows browsers can never support everyone.

Morgwen June 29th, 2002 09:15 AM

Re: Well
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vinnie
Unfortunately, a network which allows browsers can never support everyone.
Yes so the best network improvement would be to stop the browers or not?

Btw you say Morpheus allows other websites to download from them... I remember a time I think a year ago, I read something similar about bearshare...

Morgwen

ursula June 29th, 2002 09:50 AM

Shareaza also supports the banning of Browsers (and any client). In fact, it comes with Mozilla already entered...

I don't see what the problem is and why any heat on Vinnie for providing something that any intelligent user would want as default.


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