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Superwurm June 29th, 2002 02:37 PM

The best one: Which Gnutella client should I choose?
 
Hi, I was using WinMX for a while and I still do. I also used Kaaza, untill they add all that Gator rubbish, and AG satellite. Now I'm using XoloX, but I wanna try some other programs to see which one is the best.

It must have NO add- or spyware

I use the download programs to check out the newest & unknown artists and releases (I work for local radio) so it must also have stuff like that

Unregistered June 29th, 2002 02:49 PM

is this the forum to talk about?

Vinnie June 29th, 2002 03:36 PM

BearShare
 
Try BearShare.

If you don't want to support the product by looking at advertisements, be sure to un-check all of the boxes in the setup except for the first two (or first 1 if you don't want a desktop shortcut).

GregorK June 29th, 2002 05:12 PM

Try Phex and Gnucleus. They have NO ad or spyware.

Morgwen June 29th, 2002 09:28 PM

I would also try Gnucleus and Shareaza, both are Spyware free...

Morgwen

HoaX_69 June 30th, 2002 12:52 PM

I agree with Morgwen on this one
go with either Gnucleus or Shareaza (or both) - i think those two are the best clients available.

Unregistered June 30th, 2002 01:45 PM

Links for the lazy.
http://www.gnucleus.net/
http://www.shareaza.com/
http://www.bearshare.com/

These are the three best clients IMHO. Bearshare has ads though.

Unregistered July 1st, 2002 03:28 AM

try new emerging ones
 
try some new emerging ones and ask them to put your new songs feature !

for exemple shareaza : http://www.shareaza.com/
, goochi :
http://www.goochi.net

etc.

bobwonderful July 8th, 2002 09:54 PM

I would have to say Shareaza.... over Gnucleus.
 
After months of trying Kazaa lite, Gnucleus, Bearshare, Limewire, I finally found another decent client to replace my trusted Gnotella. Shareaza. This program doesn't use up many resources either. No lockups, great install.

RealBigSwede July 9th, 2002 06:17 AM

New one!!!!!
 
Try QeerPeer!!! See Post: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=13392 it is a very easy and fast client.

backmann July 9th, 2002 11:30 AM

Re: I would have to say Shareaza.... over Gnucleus.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bobwonderful
After months of trying Kazaa lite, Gnucleus, Bearshare, Limewire, I finally found another decent client to replace my trusted Gnotella. Shareaza. This program doesn't use up many resources either. No lockups, great install.
Haha, funny. I've used Gnotella a lot (best Gnutella client ever until a few months ago), and although it was very good, the only bad thing it had was it used a lot of CPU resources.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Syfonic July 21st, 2002 12:44 PM

Syfonic FileSharing Community.

Syfonic July 21st, 2002 06:32 PM

Try [edit], once it is released because it is the best client their is!!!

First code, then talk

Anenga July 22nd, 2002 09:19 PM

Shareaza
 
Use what everyone else should be using, Shareaza. It's by far the #1 Gnutella client avaliable. Unless somebody here can say why not :P

Krieger88 July 23rd, 2002 12:37 AM

Okay, why Shareaza is not the best client around? 1) I never saw a Shareaza ultrapeer. 2) Shareaza claims to be able to chat to LimeWire and browse LimeWire, but it's definitely impossible for LimeWire to browse Shareaza or to open chat wth Shareaza. 3) It's rather unstable compared to more mature clients (e.g. LimeWire). 4) It claims to be non-commercial, yet it's not open source.

Paradog July 23rd, 2002 01:18 AM

But Opensource mustnt be the solution for everything:
Look how many clones are out there from Gnucleus and LimeWire, it is not that good.

There are many firms who try to make profit out of opensource
(Streamcast).

Synfonc:
As I have read on that musicom homepage musicom is not gnutella. So its quite Offtopic here.

RealBigSwede July 23rd, 2002 08:05 AM

Pay for mp3, don't think so.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Paradog
Synfonc:
As I have read on that musicom homepage musicom is not gnutella. So its quite Offtopic here.

Isn't it pay too?:mad:

Shareaza July 26th, 2002 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krieger88
Okay, why Shareaza is not the best client around? 1) I never saw a Shareaza ultrapeer. 2) Shareaza claims to be able to chat to LimeWire and browse LimeWire, but it's definitely impossible for LimeWire to browse Shareaza or to open chat wth Shareaza. 3) It's rather unstable compared to more mature clients (e.g. LimeWire). 4) It claims to be non-commercial, yet it's not open source.
Some interesting comments, thank you :)

Shareaza isn't currently open source for three simple reasons:

a - Because its closed source, I can control it. If I want to add something I dont have to get approval or code within certain guidelines, etc. Granted I could just "publish" the code for interested parties to read, but then:

b - People could clone it, which doesn't really help anyone except the person(s) doing the cloning. Usually the motivation to clone IS commercial, and while there could be stipulations preventing this kind of use, who is going to enforce them?

c - There is no real need for another reference implementation. I believe Gnucelus provides an implementation in C++ (which is what Shareaza would be), LimeWire provides a Java implementation, and gtk-gnutella for Linux in C (?). If someone genuinely needs to know how something is done, they can use these resources (or ask).

As for the other items, the lack of Shareaza ultrapeers is probably most easily explained by the general lack of Shareaza users. Its terrific that Shareaza has such a dedicated, enthusiastic and supportive user base, but in terms of numbers it cant compete with the big three (or four counting Morpheus separately).

And LimeWire chat/browsing compatibility -- that should all work fine. I say should because anything is possible in practice, but if you have found a problem I would encourage you to post it with a description in an appropriate venue such as the Shareaza forum here or at shareaza.com, where in either case it will receive full attention. Likewise with any stability problem you may have encountered -- if you see a problem, post the error report and it can (and will) be fixed. Modern debugging is very, very accurate.

et voilą July 26th, 2002 10:56 AM

browse host
 
M. Shareaza, please use Limewire and search for shareaza. When the results of the last version appear, try to browse these hosts. You can't!!! BUG on shareaza's part or lime's, but find it please. keep up your great work.

Paradog July 26th, 2002 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shareaza


Some interesting comments, thank you :)

Shareaza isn't currently open source for three simple reasons:

a - Because its closed source, I can control it. If I want to add something I dont have to get approval or code within certain guidelines, etc. Granted I could just "publish" the code for interested parties to read, but then:

b - People could clone it, which doesn't really help anyone except the person(s) doing the cloning. Usually the motivation to clone IS commercial, and while there could be stipulations preventing this kind of use, who is going to enforce them?

c - There is no real need for another reference implementation. I believe Gnucelus provides an implementation in C++ (which is what Shareaza would be), LimeWire provides a Java implementation, and gtk-gnutella for Linux in C (?). If someone genuinely needs to know how something is done, they can use these resources (or ask).

As for the other items, the lack of Shareaza ultrapeers is probably most easily explained by the general lack of Shareaza users. Its terrific that Shareaza has such a dedicated, enthusiastic and supportive user base, but in terms of numbers it cant compete with the big three (or four counting Morpheus separately).

And LimeWire chat/browsing compatibility -- that should all work fine. I say should because anything is possible in practice, but if you have found a problem I would encourage you to post it with a description in an appropriate venue such as the Shareaza forum here or at shareaza.com, where in either case it will receive full attention. Likewise with any stability problem you may have encountered -- if you see a problem, post the error report and it can (and will) be fixed. Modern debugging is very, very accurate.

Yeah Mike, keep it close thats better, opensource is currently disappointing me too much.
But please release the code in case you want to discontinue (hopefully that wont happen)

backmann July 26th, 2002 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paradog
But please release the code in case you want to discontinue (hopefully that wont happen)
I agree. Take Gnotella's case for example. It was the best client when it was under active development. If it had been open source someone would have implemented v0.6 handshaking and I could still be using it.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Paradog July 26th, 2002 11:56 AM

Yeah,
I asked those guys to give the source to me so i can code on,
but they didnt reply.
Now I started from the scratch :(

Rayner July 27th, 2002 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krieger88
Okay, why Shareaza is not the best client around? 1) I never saw a Shareaza ultrapeer. 2) Shareaza claims to be able to chat to LimeWire and browse LimeWire, but it's definitely impossible for LimeWire to browse Shareaza or to open chat wth Shareaza. 3) It's rather unstable compared to more mature clients (e.g. LimeWire). 4) It claims to be non-commercial, yet it's not open source.
1) What does that have to do with best client.
2) Might be a problem with LimeWire, might be a problem with Shareaza. Gnucleus doesn't brose/chat with either. Does that mean it can't be considered the best client?
3) Finally a good point. But its stability hasn't really been put to test on a wide range of systems. Gnucleus is a great client that's considered "mature"; I've hard far more crashes with it than Shareaza. Actually I've never had a non-beta of Shareaza crash on me. But I do see other people complaining about Shareaza so there must be a problem.
4) What does that have to do with best client. Heh...."open source-zealots".....
I wish I had Mike/Shareaza's patience...

Anyway, to the original poster. I suggest Gnucleus or Shareaza. LimeWire if on a non-Windows system. (Mac, Linux, etc.).

Anenga July 27th, 2002 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krieger88
Okay, why Shareaza is not the best client around? 1) I never saw a Shareaza ultrapeer. 2) Shareaza claims to be able to chat to LimeWire and browse LimeWire, but it's definitely impossible for LimeWire to browse Shareaza or to open chat wth Shareaza. 3) It's rather unstable compared to more mature clients (e.g. LimeWire). 4) It claims to be non-commercial, yet it's not open source.
1) It's very strange - Shareaza is probably the best client out there, but hardly anybody uses it. I guess it's the "Mac" of the Gnutella world. It's really really good, but everyone is just too hard headed to use it :P
2) Not a problem with Shareaza.
3) Unstable? Can you tell us why? How is it unstable?
4) HAHAHA! Oh, boy. You'd be kicked up the a-hole if you said that at a place like /. "Non-Commercial" means they do not charge for licenses/use etc. And indeed, Shareaza does not charge anything. Thus it is indeed "Non-Commercial". It's closed source because that's what Mike wants it to be. Closed source software can be non-commercial too, you know. And open source, even though it may cause you to implode, can be commercial as well (like this forum software, for example :P). Open source isn't always the wisest path to take.

backmann July 27th, 2002 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krieger88
Okay, why Shareaza is not the best client around? 1) I never saw a Shareaza ultrapeer.
I've seen some Shareaza Ultrapeers, but there aren't many of them. It's logical, after all it's a new client, and it's nothing compared to the millions of downloads that the big clients had.

Besides, as some people said, the number of users has nothing to do with wether it's good or not.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Patchmaster July 27th, 2002 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anenga

1) It's very strange - Shareaza is probably the best client out there, but hardly anybody uses it. I guess it's the "Mac" of the Gnutella world. It's really really good, but everyone is just too hard headed to use it :P

As a recent Shareaza convert, I can say I didn't try it earlier because I'd never heard of it. No hard-headedness about it, I simply wasn't aware of its existence. If I'd heard of it earlier I might have saved myself $8 and countless frustrations playing hunt-the-wumpus with LimeWire.


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