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Wondering what "Leaf node" means?
Im using Limewire Pro, and it says leaf at the bottom of the connections tab.

I hardly get any results at all when I click on "enable", for incoming searches.

How do I get OUT of leaf node?

If you're connection is fast enough and you are online for a couple of hours and if you are able to receive incoming connections, this is likely to happen automatically.

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Originally posted by JasonJas
Wondering what "Leaf node" means?
Im using Limewire Pro, and it says leaf at the bottom of the connections tab.

I hardly get any results at all when I click on "enable", for incoming searches.

How do I get OUT of leaf node?

Hello!

Most People on Gnutella these days are Leaf Nodes while some users are Ultrapeers.The current outlook of Gnutella is that Leaf Nodes are connected to a certain number of UltraPeers usually 3 whitch in turn are connected to more Ultrapeers and Leafnodes.Only people with T1 connections and faster are allowed to act as Ultrapeers(Not Classical Mac OS users).To enable UltraPeer capabilitys you do the following:

Go to Tools>Options>Speed

and uncheck the Disable UltraPeer capabilitys option and also select T1(1.5Mbit/s or faster) or T3(43Mbit/s or faster) as your connection speed then click Apply then OK and then shut down LW and relaunch it for the change to take effect.You will now be a UltraPeer instead of a Leafnode.

LeafNode is a good thing because it takes the traffic load of "weaker users" and lets the big fat UltraPeers to take the big hit.

Re: Re: Leaf Node!

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Originally posted by Joakim Agren
Only people with T1 connections and faster are allowed to act as Ultrapeers(Not Classical Mac OS users).

Hmm, LimeWire's Ultrapeer promotion guidelines a little strict?

Re: Re: Leaf Node!

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Originally posted by Joakim Agren
Hello!

Most People on Gnutella these days are Leaf Nodes while some users are
Ultrapeers.The current outlook of Gnutella is that Leaf Nodes are
connected to a certain number of UltraPeers usually 3 whitch in turn
are connected to more Ultrapeers and Leafnodes.Only people with T1
connections and faster are allowed to act as Ultrapeers(Not Classical
Mac OS users).

Operating systems not allowed to become an ultrapeer also include
Windows 95-ME, Windows NT. MacOSX will not try as hard to be an
ultrapeer either because LimeWire is far less stable on it than on
Windows 2000, XP and Linux/Solaris.

The speed requirement is not T1 but DSL. Future versions will allow
any connection speed faster than Modem to become an ultrapeer.

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To enable UltraPeer capabilitys you do the following:

Go to Tools>Options>Speed

and uncheck the Disable UltraPeer capabilitys option and also select
T1(1.5Mbit/s or faster) or T3(43Mbit/s or faster) as your connection
speed then click Apply then OK and then shut down LW and relaunch it
for the change to take effect.You will now be a UltraPeer instead of a
Leafnode.

The speed selected by the user has no influence on it. LimeWire
calculates the true connection speed internally. "Disable Ultrapeer
Capabilities" is off by default.

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[/B]
LeafNode is a good thing because it takes the traffic load of "weaker
users" and lets the big fat UltraPeers to take the big
hit. [/B]

In the future LimeWire will allow many more ultrapeers and reduce the
number of leafs per ultrapeer to 30.

Re: Re: Re: Leaf Node!

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Originally posted by trap_jaw
Operating systems not allowed to become an ultrapeer also include
Windows 95-ME, Windows NT. MacOSX will not try as hard to be an
ultrapeer either because LimeWire is far less stable on it than on
Windows 2000, XP and Linux/Solaris.

I did not mention Windows 95 because it is so old and very few people are still using it when using LimeWire. Mac OSX users can be UltraPeers but as you mentioned they are not very stable users. That Windows 98 and Millenium and NT users was not allowed to become UltraPeers was a surprise to me. So that means that virtually only Windows XP users are good UltraPeers and SUN/Solaris users?. Strange that LW is able to find so much UltraPeers for everyone when only such a limited amount of users are allowed to become UltraPeers. Are you sure that Windows 98 users cannot become UltraPeers?

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The speed requirement is not T1 but DSL. Future versions will allow
any connection speed faster than Modem to become an ultrapeer.

Yes but DSL users can also be T-1 Users thats why it is allowed to become an UltraPeer even if you are a DSL user. I have a 8Mbit/s VDSL connection so even if I am a DSL user I also am a T-1 user. I once saw a post here on the forum from a developer who said that users that had a bandwidth less then 1.5Mbit/s should not become UltraPeers simply because they do more harm then good. Thats why I never gives the advice to users who have less to become UltraPeers. But in the new future UltraPeer scheme I guess that that is no longer the case.

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The speed selected by the user has no influence on it. LimeWire
calculates the true connection speed internally. "Disable Ultrapeer
Capabilities" is off by default.

Then how come that you can fake your speed. Lots of Modem and Cable/DSL users out there claim they are T-1 or even T-3 users. I always tought that LW was unable to see the true speed just guess the speed and therefore users most likely to be a true T-1 user will show up as green in the search result field.

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In the future LimeWire will allow many more ultrapeers and reduce the
number of leafs per ultrapeer to 30.

Lets hope that this will improve the Search results.!

Re: Re: Re: Re: Leaf Node!

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Originally posted by Joakim Agren
That Windows 98 and Millenium and NT users was not allowed to become UltraPeers was a surprise to me. So that means that virtually only Windows XP users are good UltraPeers and SUN/Solaris users?

Yes, that's right. Windows 98 & Windows ME had some problems regarding ther TCP implementation I believe. Windows NT had stability problems anyway, so that leaves you with Windows 2000/XP and Linux/Solaris. Of course there are also lot's of MacOSX ultrapeers but LimeWire is trying to preference other operating systems.

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I once saw a post here on the forum from a developer who said that users that had a bandwidth less then 1.5Mbit/s should not become UltraPeers simply because they do more harm then good. Thats why I never gives the advice to users who have less to become UltraPeers. But in the new future UltraPeer scheme I guess that that is no longer the case.

LimeWire has been limiting the outgoing bandwidth used for gnutella messages for ALL ultrapeers to 15kbytes/s since version 2.6 (I think), so if you have 128kbit upstream and a little more in the other direction you are perfectly suited to become an ultrapeer.

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[b]Then how come that you can fake your speed. Lots of Modem and Cable/DSL users out there claim they are T-1 or even T-3 users. I always tought that LW was unable to see the true speed just guess the speed and therefore users most likely to be a true T-1 user will show up as green in the search result field.

Many clients allow their users to fake their speed. - Despite having a T1 connection some users might still limit their upstream for uploads to something like 2-3 kbytes per second.