Poll: Kazaa V. Gnutella
 

Despite major advances in the performance and user friendliness of Gnutella applications, Kazaa still attracts more users than Gnutella. I'd be interested to hear what forum think about this. Feel free to post ideas not included in the poll.

It's not readily available for macs, otherwise I'd be curious to try it.

Is gnutella losing more users than any other p2p scheme?

limit search options?
 

Maybe I should start a new post, but it's kind of a comparision to kazaa question:
I just made the switch and loaded up limewire on my new powerbook. I was very familiar with kazaa.

I'm trying to search for an artist and limit it to bitrate of say 192. This doesn't seem to work and instead I get results of the artist AND audio with a 192 bitrate!
This can't be right! With Kazaa you can limit your results to other options, like quality and album, etc. You can even say at least 160 or at least 192 or whatever.

Am I doing something wrong? or is this all Limewire can do? If I put in an artist and a word of the title I get a whole bunch of songs with just the word in the title, not limited to the artist only.

Does limewire have this capability? If it doesn't, kazaa is waaaaaayyyy better!

Any info would be appreciated! Also any solution to using kazaa on osx?

-Mike

I think it's all of them. The name and popularity ar fundamental. #1 at download.com. Almost 4 million simultaneous users (which means more sources, but not necessarily content).

Bad (and unjustified) popularity of Gnutella.

However....

Limewire is strong within Mac users. Morpheus still has some reputation. The other clients have been improved a lot. With a little amount of good press, Gnutella could grow again.

Ivan
In the dark we make a brighter light

[OT reply]
 

LW is only supposed to return AND searches, and you can use the audio type search to narrow searches even more. However, there are some old servents (morpheus is one, I think) or hacks who will return OR searches. Too, there are some clients who reflect search terms and the files turn out to be spam. Control-clicking those results brings up the option to block those hosts--they are very irritating.

kazaa vs gnutella
 

gnuc has allowed cleaner dls for me i.e. no viral content. my counterpart used kazaa and all kind of problems developed. spy, viral, some kind of hkey weirdness developed and i spent the better part of a saturday morning tracking and clearing things down and out. i for one have the patience to stick with gnuc.

Regarding FastTrack
 

As a content distributor I have to mirror the comments made by peerless. More users = more complete downloads / faster downloads therefore a better p2p experience for p2p users.

This goes a long way for creating a positive experience for a P2P user. I personally have nodes ready to go on fast-track but I have a couple problems with the network in general.

#1 With 6 hosts connected to the fast track network all sharing the same content I could not easily find results from ths content that I know is out there if I go to a 7th station and search.

After along time I am able to return 1 or 2 results browse the node and then I get a complete content listing. I guess I just dont' understand a lot about their search mechanism.

Gnutella on the other hand (Limewire, Gnu etc.) I can execute a search and get a complete content index from 3-5 of six server consistently. I think that LimeWire has the best user interface of all the P2P clients.


#2 As I've said before I put out about 9GB of data on LimeWire daily that is my entire content library about 4 times over. On fast track although there are many more users I'm not sure they're actively participating in the network. Buy that I mean I think that that a large majority of the hosts sitting on that network are spammers and monitoring agents for the RIAA and MPAA and others. There's no good information about the SuperNodes you are connected to.

In my opinion I think that they attract more users due to press coverage.

kazaa ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

yes kazaa gets faster downloads due to amount of users.
emule gets even more files but slower downloads.
my main problem with kazaa is TOO TOO MUCH AD WARE.
GOT SO MUCH FROM THEM HAD TO RE FORMAT HDD.
LIME DESCENT DOWNLOAD RATE DEPENDING ON WHO ANDHOW MANY YOU ARE DOWNLOADING FROM.

WHAT DOES MAKE ME ANGRY IS SOME USERS SET THIER UPLOAD TO 0 kbs.
I got a file that is 98% but 1 user every time I get connected to him/her I get 0 kbs and put back on waiting list. at the back of course.
lime needs somekind of boot off for people like this.

remember this is p2p SHARE.

jfisk, remember you can limit uploads by people who are "freeloading."

However, that may only checked shared files, not the upload pipe. That's an annoying problem.

freeloaders
 

I know I can and mine is set at max ie no freeloaders.
but I'm sure not everyone has thiers set there so these freeloaders still get thier files but don't give any.

Re: kazaa ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

Dear sir,

if you do not like spyware, use kazaalite k++ version:

Kazaalite k++ home!

Re: kazaa ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

Wow...

you must have a lot of time. ;)

I would use ad-aware:

http://www.webattack.com/get/adaware.shtml

Now we are learning for what are support forums good. :)

Morgwen

I think I want to change my answer. At first when I just started gnutella I really noticed a lack of swarming capabilities (and thus slower downloads) because of the lack of hosts. But since that point I have completely changed my mind as the quality and number of shared files on kazaa seems to have gone downhill. I think the RIAA might have actually managed to put the fear of God into the Kazaa people.

Anyway, now I'm inclined to say that the only reason Kazaa is so popular now is because its a bigger name between lusers, someone asks for a good filesharing program and everyone knows kazaa so they tell them that.

I think we forget another very simple reason: KaZaA is easier to use.

Searching for an artist and limiting to 196kbit/s can be implemented as an UI-feature. Phex has filter-options for that ( http://phex.kouk.de , or look in these forums), Acquisition allows you to set a minimum bitrate, but no maximum.

I think, a better UI would give LimeWire far more Users. Look at Acquisition on the Mac, it nearly has the monopoly in p2p here (aside from acqlite and some phex users).

Network performance isn't everything (though it is important).

heh, actually, thats something I never even thought about. I use linux or BSD so I never even thought about how the UE on a windows box might be unsatisfactory for most clients since I'm inclined to prefer a harder to use but more customizeable client.

for os9 i haven found eny thing that is near as good as lime wire do y know enything whchis as good

Try out, if phex works: http://phex.kouk.de

I really wish GTK-Gnutella would be ported to windows. It's my favourite Linux/UNIX client, and GTK has been ported to Windows for some time, so I think that that would pretty much rock.

After all, not all nerds out there are using Linux, and I'm sure many Windows-using nerds would really appreciate a client like GTK-Gnutella.

My opinion is the old press coverage of Kazaa, increased by its legal problems, caused by the fact that a single company controls officially the FastTrack protocol, whose development is not targetting users for users, but Kazaa's own business plan.

Due to that, they create a network that they want to control completely to avoid access by foreign servents, and they have a big influence on that network which is very attractive for the RIAA/MPAA/BSA alliances.

Well Gnutella is very popular now too, but it can be used very often for something else than what a servent developer would like. Gnutella is not controled, and this gives an advantage now to Gnutella, which continues its slow progression, with several good servents developed with public objectives, and now available without any spyware, adwarea or bundles like Kazaa, and supported correctly (I would not download one of those Kazaa-like copies: not sure about their content, and it is well know that it really creates a storm of settings in the network configuration, in installers, etc...).

Try to uninstall safely Kazaa, you'll regret it. The only safe option is to use the Windows XP system snapshot to come back to before its installation: the Kazaa installer writes things everywhere on the system, and will slow down its performance even when you don't use it.

Where is the "People love to get lots of virus and malware loaded files" option?

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kazaa is loaded with adware. limewire is not. my comp. blocked kazaa. it didnt block limewire. enough said.

I'm using Limewire because, not only did Kazaa give popups out your mom's butt, but the filters were so much worse there, you could find some kind of pornography in any video search I did, it was horrible. It ended up ruining the computer beyond reapair, and the speed of the computer dropped incredibly. And, trust me, it wasn't a virus, I can deal with those.

I have had limewire for about 2 months now and apart from one or two viruses [i don't download anything off programmes now] and the annoying "Not what it says it is" thing i like it a lot.I downloaded Kazza and my spyware/anti-virus went bonkers it said bassically it was full of un-removable spyware and a virus that was basically a keylogger.Well i went on the internet and read nothing but bad things about it so i deleted it all scanned the computer and there where a lot more than original thought.My advise don't touch Kazza with a broom handle it's is rubbish.
My friend has it and he says his computer is running slow all the time and his spyware keeps finding new things just off the kazza prgramme.I asked him why he downloaded it after such bad press and it appears that most dance/dj's/house/techno mp'3's live there it suppose to be the best place to download dance music.
Me personally wouldn't download it again ever.

I would have to say recently limewire is defently beating kazaa and kazaa has alot adware not spyware anymore and its slow, the only thing i find on kazaa anymore is older songs and files, those torrents are just sucky for finding rare files

A friend of mine had Kaaza for his teenage son. They bought the entire package with AV maybe two years ago. When I told them about LW we did some comparison searches. LW was bringing in on average about 10x the number of returns than Kazza. Once the test results were obvious they dumped Kazza and installed LW.

Your joking right right.