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jpollar July 6th, 2001 05:27 AM

Firewall/Closed Port Problems
 
Dear Gnutella Forum,

I'm having problems connecting with LimeWire because our organization uses a strict firewall software called Raptor. The main issue is that nearly ALL the ports are blocked.

Here's a list of the ports that are open to me.

135, 139, 445, 1029, 6129, 8080

Unfortunately, none of these ports are supported by the Gnutella servers. Also, I tried to set each of these ports as the listening port and only 8080 took. The others produced an error and would not proceed...I'm assuming these are reserved ports that LimeWire can't access.

Anyway, I've read dozens of post that say to use port 8080. However, ALL of them have failed to mention a single Gnutella server that supports this port. I tried router.limewire.com:8080, gnutellahosts.com:8080, and several other IP Addresses. NONE have connected successfully.

If ANYONE has some additional insight (e.g. hacking tools to get around the closed port) on this matter and/or can provide me with a list of servers that support port 8080, I'd highly appreciate it.

thanks,

Jim

GreyFool July 6th, 2001 07:13 AM

OUT or IN?
 
If you can find those hacking tools then your SysAdmin isn't worth his money.
See, there is a marginal difference between outgoing and incoming connections in firewall policity. So, first you have to figure out if these open ports are open for outgoing or incoming connections.
A server process is listening for incoming connections on a dedicated port, while a client process is making outgoing connections from some randomly choosen port (out of a dedicated range) to that server port. So, trying to connect to a server with an other port (as in router.limewire.com:8080) will always fail.
So, first tell us whether your open ports are for outgoing or incoming connections, then we will see.

Unregistered July 6th, 2001 07:31 PM

Can you use your browser? HOW? It makes a "outgoing" connection to who knows where, so if it works, have your client do the same thing.
8080 - 80 - 9999 - 5555 WHO CARES? your browser may use 5000, 3000, 2000 1050 5674 7543 who knows what on your end so figure out what your browser does. 6346 is for incoming connections, you don't need it open! You will be able to share also via push requests.

GreyFool July 6th, 2001 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Can you use your browser? HOW? It makes a "outgoing" connection to who knows where, so if it works, have your client do the same thing.
8080 - 80 - 9999 - 5555 WHO CARES? your browser may use 5000, 3000, 2000 1050 5674 7543 who knows what on your end so figure out what your browser does. 6346 is for incoming connections, you don't need it open! You will be able to share also via push requests.

Who cares? - The SysAdmin if he's any good.
Hell, in my company you have less than 10 ports to connect to with your browser (80, 81, 8000, 8080 etc.) and you must use the proxy!

jpollar July 8th, 2001 11:47 PM

Connectivity
 
GreyFool,

As far as I know my open ports allow in and out communication. I use Yahoo Messenger and it works off of port 8080....but I can't use others like ICQ, MSN, etc. because they use ports that are being blocked completely.
The closed ports block BOTH in and out communication. I know because I tried http://www.gnufrog.com to search for files on its site....and all results return links to servers using port 6346. Therefore, I can't download them.
I'm not that concerned about request, because it's unlikely I'll get many....but I would like to download things from time to time. Any ideas?

thanks,

Jim

lyssipos July 9th, 2001 04:36 PM

ports
 
jpollar, how did you find out the ports that are available to you?
I'm in a similar position, but my technical knowledge is limited. I also tried listening on different ports with no results.
My administrators have definitely done a good job of blocking me out, but I refuse to give up, there must be a way around this.

What I'm doing in the mean while is connecting through dial-up (Juno) and doing my downloading that way. Is it possible once I have my searches done through dial-up to log back in with my T1 line and with my searches still up download?

zeroshadow July 9th, 2001 05:12 PM

Hosts
 
Look at this host list http://www.gnufrog.com/ maybe you will find one on the right port.

jpollar July 9th, 2001 11:07 PM

Apparently Nobody knows **** about fixing this!
 
It's obvious that people ARE NOT reading my initial post.
I have no FUQN clue how to connect to Gnutella servers.
And NO, there is no other servers with ports other than 6346 and 6347....I've searched hi and low

Our firewall blocks both ports for in and out traffic.

I can ONLY communicate over port 8080 people!!!!!
I can't listen on other ports! It doesn't work!

So....how the FUQ do I do this??????


lyssipos

I used a program called 7th Sphere Portscan. You can download it here, http://link.box.sk/link.php3?rid=261...2Fportscan.exe

If this link doesn't work....just go directly to http://neworder.box.sk and search for it.

zeroshadow

Didn't I say that I tried Gnufrog alreay????

GreyFool July 10th, 2001 03:01 AM

Sorry, my DSL had been down for the last 2 days.

@jpollar
So you are connecting to this board using a proxy on the firewall. And privileged ports as 135, 139, 445 are opened for incoming connections to you? Sounds weired to me. You're sure you aren't using a proxy in general? See, there is a technique called 'transparent proxy'.

Anyway, if you ask, you probably can find a guy who is willing to change his portnumber to 8080, but what have you won? You can connect to that host and do some filesearch, but to download a file you must do a direct connection to the filesharing host, who is probably running at standard port.
The only solution I can see here is to find several people to run a private net on port 8080 (find a client who enables you to change the CONNECT_STRING). Those, who are able to connect with full portrange, may have a second client running on gnutella-net.

Btw.: trying a portscan through a firewall usually should ring all the alarmclocks there. Don't be surprised to have a nice talk with your boss. Using telnet to test the connection to a server:port should be the better way, though usually all blocked packets are logged, so don't do even that to often.

GreyFool July 10th, 2001 04:13 AM

apropos www.gnufrog.com
 
Just now my server is up and running for more than 4 hours sharing 1046 files. Nevertheless I cannot find my IP on www.gnufrog.com. And I'm not using the standard port.


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