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i downloaded some videos, and it was cp. you need to moniter what goes on here. if i get caught with this **** i will name names. i will sue for damages. you ***** need to learn that these people put these files on this **** with different names. if i do get questioned, you will hear from my attorney. and i will win. heed my words, because they will be your last. you cant stop people from uploading? yes you can. charge people. like imesh does. just a word of warning. if i get trouble you get trouble.

We all feel the same way about CP, but you must learn what P2P is all about, it is not the Gnutella network that is responsible for those files, but the sickos that are out there...
Always check your files with Bitzi and then you will know what you are downloading....

Also I should mention that you should report these files to the appropriate authorities....

http://www.ic3.gov/

I ALREADY HAVE. this is just a warning to these ***** these ***** who run this cockamamie wannabe p2p. if you guys want a p2p who specializes in music, and absolutely no cp, i will tell you. they pay people to check, which is why after two weeks you have to subscribe to it. just pm me and i WILL give you the address. i used to think it wasnt fair how they cut me off, but now after this limewire s hit, uh uh. i gaurantee, if you are willing to pay, i will give you an address to something that does not have this **** on it. no, i dont work for them. i just think that a p2p should check their system. and dont say that they cant, because the one i am on does.

im on a p2p right now. no cp. but they charge. they pay people to check the files. what you said is no excuse. make limewire a pay thing. no more problems. hire people to check the files. it isnt that hard.

Who told you gnutella specialises in music? I don't see LimeWire advertising music downloads on its website do you? I don't see it advertising movie downloads either. What it does say is not to use the programs for downloading copyright material. How the network is used is up to the individuals who use it. ie: Quality of Content on the Network (click on link)

There's ways of filtering out material like you saw. Search the forums & you can find such techniques. Rather than just coming here & bitching. Go to the pub for that. :rolleyes:

The same topic every 2-3 days............:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :cool:

p.s. Can't we get a smile that yawns..........(Oops, wrong section, that belongs into the site feedback and suggestion part.........;) )

a paid subscription service eh?, with guarantees as to what's on the network eh?, that's illegal as all hell, so yeah, pm me with the details and I'll inform my contacts all about it (and it will be shut down right quickly)

p2p is meant to be free, and people are supposed to be able to host what they want, so people monitoring what people upload would kind of defeat the purpose.

but i agree there is too much cp out there, and i dont see why we can't report the names of the files and users and ips of the stuff to the ppl who have the gnutella servers so they can ban these people's ips and delete the files off the network. there's no reason to have that stuff out there

Sorry but the Gnutella network does not have any servers. It has users and each user is a server. The files you or I share are not held on a server they are on your computer. That is why the Gnutella network is virtually impossible to shut down because there are no servers to seize and shut down. Just users.

Yes but where does the boundary start? There's lots of super-moderates out there who'd want to eventually filter out all but is suitable for children under 6. My thoughts are compromised, because I believe in the freedom of sharing .... but then where topics of sharing are in the ranges of peda, which doesn't suit my particular etho's & mentality, & doesn't accord with any international law except some odd asian laws of marriage, I'd put my foot into agreement with any riddance of such. But it's out there whether we like it or not. And as Leeware says, they will mask it. Either using known terms or using a false name.

How we deal with the unwanted, whatever it is, is up to us. LW has already offered more than one technique to rid of most types of content. What we allow through in results is up to our filtering skills & search skills. What we download is up to our scrutiny before we decide what is worth downlding. There's already too much said on the forum about how to check such things.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the material out there and also people that come here whining about certain topics are actually paid by certain companies to put P2P into a bad light. Just read your newspaper - or better read a good online news source - with respect to changes of laws concerning the internet and connect the dots. I'm sure if I spent enough money for spreading FUD they'll paint the moon pink for our safety.

By the way, the probability that you download such material from a "paedophile" person is very low compared to the chances that you're downloading it from Interpol, a self-announced paedo-hunter or a moron with a trojanized machine. So, well, if you want to make your lawyer rich, go ahead and sue whoever. If you want to solve the problem - I doubt you actually want to - this is the wrong place to look for solutions. Children are not abused on Gnutella but in your neighbourhood.

What is strange is I have been using P2P networks for a very long time and to my knowledge have never DL a CP video by mistake. But I do use Bitzi and pay attention to what I am DL. Just my 2 cents.

I've never downloaded one either and I use Bitzi all the time as well, I actually dont come across it in my search results either...

hmm..... well, if that's the case, the only thing to do is to take legal action against the people hosting this stuff... which is harder to do. :(

I always read, "sue them! sue them!". Not once have I read "Who are these children? We must help them!". Not once. Not once. At least be honest and write "I don't give a **** whether this exists, I just don't wanna know about it, so filter that crap out!". Be concerned or not. Nobody can care about each problem in the world. Don't pretend you do because that's just disgusting. These files are not the problem, those are symptoms.

EXCELLENT POINT......!!!;) :) ;)

Guys

Like Hobo, I was not going to contribute to this thread but like everyone else, I am sick and tired of these self righteous, self-appointed paedo hunters coming into this forum and doing nothing but dropping troll-bombs. Once they have had their desired affect, they then move on, probably looking for another forum to (troll) bomb.

We have debated, agreed and disagreed about what should or should not be done, we have also been around this circle far too many times already. Although I believe in free speech, I wish the moderators would ban these trouble making/threatening trolls from the forum.

And perhaps we might get someone from a law enforcement agency updating us, without going into specifics, on what is being done to catch CP distributors.



UK Bob

PS. I’m just sick of constantly hearing from the “Hang ‘em and Flog ‘em” crowd.

You're not alone ukbobboy01. My sentiments exactly (except for the immediate banning, :D but I get your point.) Also another example of people who don't search their topic on the forum before posting. :)

things are being done about such stuff...it is just not generally talked about...

for one...said pictures are having the offensive part (naked children) removed and the leftover (the room, outside view, etc) is left...that is being spread around in hopes that somebody will recognize the locations (and there has been success)

maybe some officials have actually listened to my 'idea' of using modern day facial recognition software...seems rather simple to me, load in every single image of children (with names of course) available into a data base, and then cross reference it with the pictures...there should be photos of most all school age children from their schools, hence quite a nice database is available..

and of course as mentioned above, many files are being shared by law enforcement in hopes of catching predators...

filtering said results out is not legally possible, and if ppl are really so inflammed by their presence then perhaps they should start logging IP addys and reporting them...