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backmann April 16th, 2002 08:42 PM

Something happened and two of the main developers, Shaun and Lev, resigned in December.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

wilecyote April 20th, 2002 12:01 PM

bearshare
 
im probly gonna get flamed for this but ive been on gnutella for about two years i was an avid user of gnotella and of peeranha i had tried earlier versions of bs and lw i liked gnotella for what best suited me then came the spyware wars. i had stayed away from even trying these clients im not a programmer just a plain ole user but in the advent of gnotella and peeranha i was forced to try some others. i finnaly broke down and tried bs i am amazed at the improvements there has been alot of work put in it i think its really good if only gnucleus had some of the features that perrana and gnotella did id be using them so far this looks like bs the best client for me
p.s. i installed it and chose not to partisipate in the spyware and ran the latest adaware on my system came out clean
i do feel as a betrayer of opensourse but it is the better mousetrap in my opinion

Unregistered April 21st, 2002 05:59 AM

What is your opinion about Kazaa. Sorry to ask this, but I'm new to all of this gnutella and p2p stuff.

I've only tried audiogalaxy, morpheus (old and pe) and now i started to use kazaa.

Its interface is similar to previous morpheus, with audio, video and so on user friendly search filters, plus the ability to search by all, artist or title (in the audio section). Morpheus used to have this too but the new preview edition is very similar to Gnucleus: they put all in the same search list, audio, video, text, software, you name it.

For a person mainly interested in audio and video, like myself, one would apreciate a user friendly interface with such search options.

I never tried limewire or bearshare, so i don't know how do they look like nor work.

The only thing i dislike about kazaa is that i didn't see yet a single mp3 file with more than 128 kbps. I do prefer 160 and sometimes even 192 kbps, but now i don't see none on the net.

Give me your opinion as i see, from what i've read here, you all are experts in these matters.

Morgwen April 21st, 2002 06:09 AM

For videos you should try eDonkey:

http://www.zeropaid.com/edonkey/

For MP3s try Song Spy:

http://www.zeropaid.com/songspy/

Song Spy bundles a software called n-case if you want to delete it use ad-aware:

http://www.cnet.com/software/0-806181-8-7309404-1.html

Morpheus is not only similar to Gnucleus, they use the source code from Gnucleus - the only change is that they added some banners!

Morgwen

mrgone4662 April 21st, 2002 06:24 AM

I've never tried Song Spy (I'll have to check it out,) but for mp3s I usually go with audiogalaxy (with the AGStreme interface.)

I don't know first hand about videos, but I hear Kazaa lite is good for those.

And there is always eDonkey to fall back on when you can't find what you're looking for anywhere else.

sipher April 21st, 2002 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrgone4662
I've never tried Song Spy (I'll have to check it out,) but for mp3s I usually go with audiogalaxy (with the AGStreme interface.)

I don't know first hand about videos, but I hear Kazaa lite is good for those.

And there is always eDonkey to fall back on when you can't find what you're looking for anywhere else.

Audiogalaxy has spyware and kazaa has a distributed computing client that will hog your cputime, hd space, and bandwidth. Dont' use them

backmann April 21st, 2002 08:32 PM

Quote:

What is your opinion about Kazaa.
The reason why it doesn't appear in the poll is because Kazaa is not a GN client, nor are eDonkey or SongSpy. I'm not saying these programs suck though.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

sipher April 21st, 2002 08:58 PM

Kazaa sucks with all the spyware nad distributed computing client!

Morgwen April 22nd, 2002 02:35 AM

Use Kazaa lite without the scumware! :)

http://www.zeropaid.com/kazaalite/

@ unregistered

In this version there is NO bitrate limit!!!

Morgwen

sipher April 22nd, 2002 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morgwen
In this version there is NO bitrate limit!!!

Morgwen [/B]
Bit rate limit?

What's that all about?

Morgwen April 22nd, 2002 09:25 AM

The original Kazaa has a bitrate limit they show only MP3s with up 128kbs - I donīt know why!

Morgwen

sipher April 22nd, 2002 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morgwen
The original Kazaa has a bitrate limit they show only MP3s with up 128kbs - I donīt know why!

Morgwen

That'sa dumb

I find alot of 128k files dont' cut it quality wise. I try to use 160, anything more and the file size is too big.

wilecyote April 23rd, 2002 08:33 AM

I want to stay Gnuttella
 
I've actually tried gnucleus and I dont like the fact it dont auto resume downloads or selected files I'm getting ready to try a few others like kazza lite and edonkey I'm using bs on gnuttella now it seems pretty good I'll soon try l/w but i feel that I am screwing open source p2p. ive been using gnutella for about two years I've got 200gbs to share all gotten off gnuttella. I feel sad that I might have to leave gnuttella if only gnucleus was more like gnotella or peeranha.
I hope godxblue opensources it he had a great start of a client. I guess I should be more clear as to what im looking for is a client like gnottella.
1.is upto date
2.auto resumes broken links failed downloads(so i can run it 24-7 check on it once a day )
3.remembers all of my settings if it dies (i.e. windows)
4.good search engine (im into videos and sometimes a mp3)
5. i love the new multiple download sources
I guess I'm just complaining that gnucleus isnt upto gnotella yet and I'm impatient is there any knock off gnucleus that might be close to what im looking for?

bobwonderful April 23rd, 2002 12:01 PM

I've tried gnuecleus as well and don't like how the system keeps pinging my server until it allows it to download. The fact that I see all of these requests, makes me want to limit the number of files I share as well as selecting those IP address on ingnore. I tried Kazza lite, and the selection on there is decent, however the application is slow when switching screens or selecting other items (Java issues?) I also don't like the fact that you can't see what types of MP3 encoding speeds the song's are. The good thing is that it does have auto resume, switchable to other servers of like files if the server you are on suddenly disconnects or fails downloading. Most of the songs on the Kazza lite finds are MP3's at 128K Encoding or less, which I don't find appealing. What I need is a new version of Gnotella or better yet... get rid of all of the gneucleus.
Oh one more feature I did like about Bearshare, gnotella and Kazza lite is the ability to browse the connected server for other files. (I find that really nice to be able to get suggestions from other people's file collections). Kazza has a nice feature built in on that. Gnotella and bearshare go to a web interface.
Bad thing about Kazza is that you don't have multiple searches like gnotella. You could save your last 3 searches with Gnotella. If you search on something different with Kazza lite you lose the information on the previous search.
Does anyone know if Kazza lite is on the Gnutella network, I heard it is on the Limewire, Fastrack network.
Well, I'll still use Gnotella for the time being.

sipher April 23rd, 2002 01:40 PM

Re: I want to stay Gnuttella
 
Quote:

Originally posted by wilecyote
I've actually tried gnucleus and I dont like the fact it dont auto resume downloads or selected files I'm getting ready to try a few
I would like to knwo why in the HELL all clients don't have this feature, without that the client is pretty much atomatically worthless, if you psend a whole bunch of time searching for files, decide which ones you want but you need to reboot or your computer crashes before they finish you are screwed!

bobwonderful May 27th, 2002 09:43 PM

Kazza lite has spyware... beware!! I removed it.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bobwonderful
I've tried gnuecleus as well and don't like how the system keeps pinging my server until it allows it to download. The fact that I see all of these requests, makes me want to limit the number of files I share as well as selecting those IP address on ingnore. I tried Kazza lite, and the selection on there is decent, however the application is slow when switching screens or selecting other items (Java issues?) I also don't like the fact that you can't see what types of MP3 encoding speeds the song's are. The good thing is that it does have auto resume, switchable to other servers of like files if the server you are on suddenly disconnects or fails downloading. Most of the songs on the Kazza lite finds are MP3's at 128K Encoding or less, which I don't find appealing. What I need is a new version of Gnotella or better yet... get rid of all of the gneucleus.
Oh one more feature I did like about Bearshare, gnotella and Kazza lite is the ability to browse the connected server for other files. (I find that really nice to be able to get suggestions from other people's file collections). Kazza has a nice feature built in on that. Gnotella and bearshare go to a web interface.
Bad thing about Kazza is that you don't have multiple searches like gnotella. You could save your last 3 searches with Gnotella. If you search on something different with Kazza lite you lose the information on the previous search.
Does anyone know if Kazza lite is on the Gnutella network, I heard it is on the Limewire, Fastrack network.
Well, I'll still use Gnotella for the time being.


ursula May 28th, 2002 04:52 AM

The Browse function in BearShare, and LimeWire if I have this correct, is about to go bye bye.
I am sure that someone will come in here and correct this comment if I am wrong, but there are certain definite indications that BearShare will be omitting the 'feature'.
btw, this 'feature' consumes large amounts of bandwidth and it is not advisable to have it 'ON' unless you really do have the bandwidth allocated to support it. It is for sure a no-no for dial-up modem users.

sanelson May 31st, 2002 10:04 AM

Re: Kazza lite has spyware... beware!! I removed it.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bobwonderful
Kazaa Lite does NOT contain spyware. If you would have read the pop-up when you installed the thing it tells you that that is a neutered version of Cydoor. Kazaa thinks the neutered version is the real thing so it runs happy. If you delete the neutered Cydoor, then it WILL INSTALL the real Cydoor the next time you run it!

sanelson May 31st, 2002 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ursula
The Browse function in BearShare, and LimeWire if I have this correct, is about to go bye bye.
I am sure that someone will come in here and correct this comment if I am wrong, but there are certain definite indications that BearShare will be omitting the 'feature'.
btw, this 'feature' consumes large amounts of bandwidth and it is not advisable to have it 'ON' unless you really do have the bandwidth allocated to support it. It is for sure a no-no for dial-up modem users.

The browse function, as we know it, is going bye bye. This is because Limewire is going to incorporate a new way to browse user's files, and Bearshare is going to follow suit. When this will happen, though, I have no idea, so we'll probably be without it for a while.

Quote:

Originally posted by Vinnie
It broke when I re-wrote uploads.

We probably won't be putting it back either, since there is a new GDF proposal from LimeWire for browsing the files belonging to a host (one that integrates itself into the search results rather than using Internet Explorer).

The LimeWire technique also works with firewalled hosts (where our web server feature doesn't).

We will still leave the web server feature in there in case anyone wants to serve HTML.


bobwonderful May 31st, 2002 12:28 PM

Re: Re: Kazza lite has spyware... beware!! I removed it.
 
Ad-aware run against it found a file which
it notes as spyware.

Quote:

Originally posted by sanelson

Kazaa Lite does NOT contain spyware. If you would have read the pop-up when you installed the thing it tells you that that is a neutered version of Cydoor. Kazaa thinks the neutered version is the real thing so it runs happy. If you delete the neutered Cydoor, then it WILL INSTALL the real Cydoor the next time you run it!


sanelson June 6th, 2002 02:40 AM

Re: Re: Re: Kazza lite has spyware... beware!! I removed it.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bobwonderful
Ad-aware run against it found a file which
it notes as spyware.


Yes, this is the cd_clint.dll (Cydoor), which Kazaa needs to run. It doesn't do anything, though, because it's not the REAL Cydoor. It's just there so Kazaa doesn't throw fits. Watch out, though, if you delete it Kazaa will install a new version, which is (I think) the real thing. If you want to know if it's real or not, right-click on the file and click on properties > version. If it's not the real Cydoor it will say version 1.0.0.0, if it's the real version it will have some other version number. Or you can jsut open up the program and see it it has ads or not. If it does, you have spyware. The reason Ad-Aware thinks it's spyware is because it only checks file names and not what's actually in the file.

If you want to actually see what they're using, go here, download the file, and read the README. (You can also use this file yourself to get around the Ads and Spyware in other programs that rely on Cydoor.)

You can also read Kazaa Lite's explanation here.

Also, read the pop-up that says IMPORTANT NOTICE again after you install Kazaa Lite.

BTW, this really doesn't belong in this forum since this is a Gnutella forum, but, oh well. Kazaa Lite has their own forums here, if you want to ask someone there about it.

Morgwen June 21st, 2002 03:57 PM

Please vote here:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=12658

Morgwen


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