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Vic March 7th, 2002 07:04 PM

FIREWALLS and USERS#@!$#@!$#@!!!!
 
I am fed up with people who Firewall their music files to NOT be SHARED!!!! It totally sucks. I think that they should be kicked off of the Gnotella network all together because they TAKE and don't GIVE! Jerks.

backmann March 7th, 2002 09:02 PM

Re: Firewalls
 
I'm behind a firewall and still share my files. I have 2 uploads an hour with Gnotella and 6 an hour in WinMX.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Morgwen March 8th, 2002 02:59 AM

Vic!

If you donīt know what firewalls are, please inform you next time before you post such crap!

@ backmann

Of course you can that is why we have push requests!

Morgwen

Vic March 8th, 2002 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morgwen
Vic!

If you donīt know what firewalls are, please inform you next time before you post such crap!

@ backmann

Of course you can that is why we have push requests!

Morgwen

If FIREWALLS were so cool, why am I always waiting for you GUYS to be pushed ....FOR HOURS!!!??? and...never getting downloads from you?...I'd say "You 'ARE' being jerks! The green bottons seam to ALWAYS give me music files....MY WHOLE POINT! The RED ONES....HUMPH! Keep Waiting!
Push, Keep Waiting , Push, Keep Waiting, Push,,,,,,,etc.,,,

Morgwen March 8th, 2002 05:03 AM

Vic!

Post in the forum of your client - ask for help and possible settings there!

Morgwen

P.S.:

Next time when you call someone a jerk I will close the thread!

Unregistered March 8th, 2002 07:55 PM

You are right, it is more difficult to get a file from a firewalled client. I see no danger in opening port 6346 to incoming connections if you have a good well tested client or are running Linux. Windows users are paranoid because their stupid Outlook program allows you to run programs by just sending it to someone. How stupid is that? They have no clue so they think viruses are coming from everywhere, even a open port!

SHUT IT ALL DOWN!! I have no clue where it is coming from so shut it all off!!

As a test I put up 2000 jpg files (very nasty girly pictures everyone wants) and I got about 50 DL per hour on a modem connection.

When I firewalled it I only got about 5 or so per hour. I let this run for some time to make sure I wasn't crazy. I could get all the files I wanted from others though!

The problem is that your push packet has to be routed to the host you are trying to contact, and he could have disconnected from the network node he was on when he sent back the query hit to you (file names). Also with MorphedGnucleus 100,000 new users on the network it's hard to reach the "other side". Plus on top of that most nodes are way busy because these morph people were trained to leach every file they can and not share back. Why should they? There were set up central servers with everything on them, paid for by advertising dollars and a CEO with a new car.

You don't know if your push request made it or just got lost. Plus, you may have dropped the node connection that routed you the packet. So it's hit or miss at best.

So yes, firewalls are for whimps who run windows and have no clue how to set their port 6346 open. Since billy gates won't spend the time to fix his crap he has put out since the 80's, we all have to suffer.

To Billy Gates: you have enough money now, show us you are a real programmer and fix this crap you idiot!

Here's this Linus guy that isn't a billonaire and his OS isn't a big security hole!

Why do people buy sh t from a shi y company when they could have a great OS for free? Stupid, really stupid.

Quote:

Originally posted by Vic
If FIREWALLS were so cool, why am I always waiting for you GUYS to be pushed ....FOR HOURS!!!??? and...never getting downloads from you?...I'd say "You 'ARE' being jerks! The green bottons seam to ALWAYS give me music files....MY WHOLE POINT! The RED ONES....HUMPH! Keep Waiting!
Push, Keep Waiting , Push, Keep Waiting, Push,,,,,,,etc.,,,


mrgone4662 March 8th, 2002 08:23 PM

It seems to be "in" these days to bag on microsoft. Too bad you don't actually know what is wrong with microsoft products so you resort to petty trolling.

As far as firewalls are concerned, yeah some people are paranoid, others just want to control what goes in and out of their computer. A lot of people are also on LANs, sharing a single internet connection between multiple computers.

I run a soft firewall and sit behind a router, and I was able to set things up to give me a "direct" connection to gnutella. Unfortunately not everyone is capable of doing this. Either they do not know how or they do not have access to do network administration.

The problem isn't with people using firewalls. The problem is the lack of proxy support in gnutella clients (among other things.) This is something that is being worked on around the development community.

So in the mean time be patient and quit bitching about people that have decided to share files. You're getting this all for free anyway.

Unregistered March 10th, 2002 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrgone4662
It seems to be "in" these days to bag on microsoft. Too bad you don't actually know what is wrong with microsoft products so you resort to petty trolling.

As far as firewalls are concerned, yeah some people are paranoid, others just want to control what goes in and out of their computer. A lot of people are also on LANs, sharing a single internet connection between multiple computers.

I run a soft firewall and sit behind a router, and I was able to set things up to give me a "direct" connection to gnutella. Unfortunately not everyone is capable of doing this. Either they do not know how or they do not have access to do network administration.

The problem isn't with people using firewalls. The problem is the lack of proxy support in gnutella clients (among other things.) This is something that is being worked on around the development community.

So in the mean time be patient and quit bitching about people that have decided to share files. You're getting this all for free anyway.

I feel so much better now that you explained things so eliquently!....NOT! Stop bitching must mean to stop being REAL!...Let's just let ENRON and others like them Steal from California's budget surplus of 7 plus billion dollars, and let's let gas prices at the pump go sky rocketing through the roof and just think it is all just capitalism at its' best, and yes! Let's just turn our head the other way when we see a free gift horse in the mouth!....I'll just be patient and patient and patient and....

mrgone4662 March 11th, 2002 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
I feel so much better now that you explained things so eliquently!....NOT! Stop bitching must mean to stop being REAL!...Let's just let ENRON and others like them Steal from California's budget surplus of 7 plus billion dollars, and let's let gas prices at the pump go sky rocketing through the roof and just think it is all just capitalism at its' best, and yes! Let's just turn our head the other way when we see a free gift horse in the mouth!....I'll just be patient and patient and patient and....
What does enron have to do with people using firewalls?

Morgwen March 11th, 2002 04:01 AM

It seems that some people donīt know that firewalls are good not bad - they help to save "YOUR" security! I have a firewall too... and I am "ALWAYS" sharing... so I can only repeat:

Read some articles about firewalls to understand what they are and what they do - and what can happen if you have no!

www.google.com helps!

Morgwen


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