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funkymarcus February 21st, 2003 07:54 AM

Sorry for the triple post
 
web site not fully compatible with Safari?

stief February 21st, 2003 11:40 AM

Hi Mark. Sounds intriguing. Yes, 10.2.4 on an 700 iBook G3; cable modem connected to a two ethernet Mac IIci (running 7.6.1!) serving my home Lan of a G4 iMAc DVD, a 500 iBook, and assorted other museum computers.

Just heard of another good reference. Janus noted http://www.ists.dartmouth.edu/IRIA/k...p/p2p_full.htm as being worth the read--the legal section looked good.

BTW--is it bad form to delete unnecessary posts? I clicked the submit button twice (on IE) because the first submit reported a connection failure. The second click worked, but showed a double post. I then used the edit button to open up a delete option, and reedited the first to add this. Not Safari.

clueless February 22nd, 2003 04:45 PM

In developer/ coder speak, the two programs may be the same. But as a lay user who has purchased both programs, I can factually state that on my system, 10.2.4 w Java Preview 1.4.1, on a G4 400 with 1 gig of RAM, Acquisition by far out performs LimeWire in terms of stability.

Back in December, when you put out probably the worst piece of doodoo in the form of 2.8.5, somebody in your firm decided it would be a good time to leave for the holidays, and many of us are still waiting for answers to our support emails. Not that they would help, based upon the answers we receive here in the forum.

On the other hand, Dave seems to be able to code a decent program and actively participate in the forum for his program. And his app works, without the need for 'chunky loading', which you seem to favor.

Today I decided to try using LW 2.8.6 Pro once again, and found that it now sticks on the splash screen at "Loading User Interface". Trashing the prefs didn't fix it. Reinstalling didn't fix it.
Uninstalling did fix it, and that's where it will stay until such time that you might deliver something worthy of a paid application.

My Acquisition 0.74 has been happily chugging along all day long, as it always does.

I don't know if coder and business office is one and the same, but if so, then I think you have earned a little honest bashing, if that's what you wish to call it.

Put out a decent product once again, and I will be humbly happy to sing your praises..

SleeplessInCanada February 22nd, 2003 06:36 PM

That's the whole point of why I started his thread. It has gone full circle, without resolution, and hey what the heck, I tried Limewire again after Apple released 10.2.4.... it still sucks, and I still won't use it. Yay Aquisition!

stief February 22nd, 2003 06:58 PM

Please--what do you have that allows Acquisition to work for you? It's been as bad for me as Limewire. Do you have direct connections? Better home network setups?
I've been faithfully reading the Acquisition posts, and see liitle hope for my troubles uploading. How are your uploads? Others in my home say Aquisition works when reverted to .72 for downloads, but didn't know about uploads.

SleeplessInCanada February 22nd, 2003 07:09 PM

I have a PowerMac G4 500 with 300+meg's of ram, and OS X 10.2.4, and a stock 25gig HD.... nothing really special, except that it is an Apple Macintosh computer, which is special enough :-)

SleeplessInCanada February 22nd, 2003 07:24 PM

Stief, if what you are saying is that you can't seem to hold on to a peer for as long as it would take to complete a download, that's their fault for not wanting to stay online for as long as you. Nothing to do with the OS, nothing to do with Gnutella, so you might want to increase the number of peers that you connect to, and choose to download files with more than one peer sharing that file at one time.

stief February 22nd, 2003 07:44 PM

Yeah, uptime helps downloads, but I'm interested in uploads. Thanks though. I wonder if I can commandeer the family iMac G4 and see if it's a G3 problem.

BTW--the new Acquisition is just out, and has also reached a fee-sharing arrangement with Limewire. Yay! I hope this means we don't have to worry about one not cooperating with the other. (Here's the ref if you haven't seen it http://www.sciforums.com/f72/s/showt...threadid=17735).

Are you on a direct connection?

Also, I don't know enough to judge the risk on OSX of turning the firewall off. Could this be why you and Clueless find Acquisition so much better?

Porfiry February 22nd, 2003 08:15 PM

I am Dave, Acquisition's developer.

Quote:

Acquisition is dependent on Limewire for the source code. There is a difference in the two, but I don't know the exact nature of those differences.
All protocol handling in Acquisition uses the LimeWire source code. But anything you see on the screen (the user interface) is new code written in Cocoa/Objective-C specifically for Mac OS X. It's been this way since Acquisition 0.6 was released last July.

Quote:

the new Acquisition is just out, and has also reached a fee-sharing arrangement with Limewire. Yay! I hope this means we don't have to worry about one not cooperating with the other.
Actually no, the "new" Acquisition is not out. We're in very small scale beta release, mostly waiting for the next stable and general release of LimeWire. At present, version 0.74 is the stable release. And no, there is no "fee-sharing" agreement either.

stief February 22nd, 2003 09:44 PM

Dave--thanks for the info, and clarifications.
When you said "I reached an agreement a while back with Greg Bildson at LimeWire that will see Acquisition's interface code return to the public domain as of version 0.76" I misunderstood _agreement_, and also forgot that you'd explained about an odd numbering system of beta releases. My apologies. My wife warns me--think more, submit less. :confused:

I guess _dependent_ on protocol is close enough to "essentially Limewire," but do you think the interface differences are enough to explain why Clueless, Sleepless and others see a significant difference in performance? If not, any tips on where to look until the next releases would be appreciated.

Re the financial aspects, I wrote earlier in this thread that "I hope to hear that Limewire and Acquisition work out a fee sharing arrangement, where each gets a portion of a fee in proportion to their contributions in core/gui development and OSX customer support, and both Limewire and Acquisition work on a system of recognition for the volunteer coders."

Is this too unrealistic or out of place, or is it already handled by the Pro donation/Acquisition registration fees? However it's handled, it seems important to know Acquisition and Limewire are cooperating.

Any new pointers or hope on sharing solutions for OSX?

Cheers--and thanks to all who are working on p2p.


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