4.10Pro......slow, quits often in 10.3.9...?
 

I installed the new 4.10 pro version last night, and I've noticed that the program itself runs much slower than the previous one (more than half the time it's running, my whole system slows down, HD or something starts humming, etc. lots of beachball action). Also, every time I snap the computer out of screen saver mode, the program illegally quits (or has already done so). Any advice?

Jjazz, welcome to the Gnutella forums.

There is here a article which speak of your problem.

What I would do first is to re-install the 10.3.9 Combo over your existing 10.3.9 and see if this not helps

Philippe

I've got exactly the same problem. I've tried all the solutions mentioned in the other threads. Reinstalling the security update, running the Java update, purging the incomplete downloads library, even the one on the Apple site using terminal, all to no avail. I suspect this may be a different problem. The common one seems to occur when installing OSX 10.3.9. I was already running 10.3.9 with no problems at all with Limewire. It was only when I updated to LW 4.10 that the problems started. The application opens ok and to start with everything works fine. Then it gets progressively slower until it can take minutes to respond to a mouse click and eventually Limewire quits. Any other applications running at the same time also slow down.

Same here. I've tried everything, to no avail. I wonder if there's any place to download the previous version? At this point I'm about to give up on Limewire.

I'm quite sure that's a issue with 10.3.9 (Java surely) and 4.10pro.

I have 4.10pro runningon my daughter's G3 running 10.3.8 without any problem

Other things that can be done:

(1) repair permissions
(must be admin)
Launch Applications/Utilities/DiskUtility
On the left pane, select the drive
On the right, select the First Aid (or SOS) tab
Then click on repair permissions and let run; don not worry about messages like " new permissions...."
Quit DiskUtility
Shutdown and reboot

(2) manually run maintenance scripts through Macjanitor
http://personalpages.tds.net/~brian_...acjanitor.html
and use it to run the maintenance scripts
The maintenance scripts are Unix scripts which are automatically ran on your
Mac between 02Am and 04 am..if your Mac is on at this moment.
I can advice you to run, through Macjanitor, the daily script each day, the week script each week, ..and so on

(3) and last but not least the Unix repair function: fsck
To run fsck, you first need to start up your Mac in single-user mode. Here's how:
1. Restart your Mac.
2. Immediately press and hold the Command and "S" keys.
You'll see a bunch of text begin scrolling on your screen. In a few more seconds, you'll see the Unix command line prompt (#).
You're now in single-user mode.

Now that you're at the # prompt, here's how to run fsck:
1. Type: "fsck -y" (that's fsck-space-minus-y).
If the 1st pass says that nothing has to be repaired, try "fsck -fy"
Option "-y" forces a "yes" response to every question of the system, which is very important because answering "no" to a fsck question will stop the process !
Option "-f" forces fsck to chack a system that this command seems to have find "clean"
2. Press Return.
The fsck utility will blast some text onto your screen. If there's damage to your disk, you'll see a message that says:

***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****

If you see this message--and this is extremely important-- repeat running fsck. It is normal to have to run fsck more than once -- the first run's repairs often uncover additional problems..

When fsck finally reports that no problems were found, and the # prompt reappears:
3. Type: "reboot" to restart,
or type "exit" to start up without rebooting.
4. Press Return.

Your Mac should proceed to start up normally to the login window or the Finder.

Phil

Thanks to Philippe for all the useful tips, particularly MacJanitor which seems like a very useful little application. Unfortunately none of these fixed the problem. I've had a look at what's going on in the activity monitor. Limewire gradually uses up all the available memory until there is about 5M left, at which point everything slows to a crawl. The Virtual Memory size and real memory used by Limewire keep creeping up and the processor and disc activity meters hit the endstops. Looks like a memory leak to me, but whether it's a bug in Limewire or OSX 10.3.9 I've no idea. I'm pretty sure that the problem only started with the update to LW4.10 though. If only I hadn't clicked on that download button. Anyone know how I can go back to an earlier version of Limewire?

Deano

Tried the latest JUM version last night (clutching at straws here) but it's no better.

Same problem here
 

Just wanted to note that I have exactly the same symptoms as Deano777. The problem only occured after going to Pro4.10. This is not the Java problem. Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated. When I tried to contact Limewire Pro support the link does not work.

Greg

Only A Hobo was suffering a similar problem. As a last resort I suggested trying the Jum CVS nightly build & it seemed to work for him. It might not work for everybody, but if you check Jum's nightly builds, there's more than one to try. http://www.mager.org/LimeWire/ Jum's builds require no installation, just drag & drop from the dmg. One of Jum's build's might just do the trick. I think his last one was 4.10.2 jum20060105230004 But you need to click on the "nightly" builds link to find them.

BTW I would also recommend the Java reinstall using the "Offline" standalone installer, but this one: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macos...update142.html
If it won't let you install it, then double-click the harddrive icon, open the Library, open the Receipts folder, then find the file: Java142Update2.pkg, delete it and try again. Receipts folder sample image

I would also recommend a SAFE boot, ie: rebooting whilst holding down the SHIFT key until you see the message booted in safe mode. Then open Disk Utility & repair permissions. Then reboot normally. Do this before using LW again & after reinstalling java.

It might also be worth deleting your LW preferences. Search for limewire (in prefs folder) using Search/Find & delete it. Oh I forgot to mention, when doing this search, select extra search option & choose Visibility -> show visible & invisible items. LW 4.10 has its preferences folder in a new location depending upon whether you've deleted the prefs folder since updating. In any case, it'll prolly be wise to delete whatever LW prefs you can find. ;)

Nice timing OAH lol :D

Yes mac os has lots of invisible files. Lots!!! I have a utility or 2 which can convert an entire partition or folder's contents to show all invisible files. You'd be surprised. But it comes in handy sometimes when ... oh ... should keep quiet. lol :D Forum rules.

Well I think I've tried everything now and still no improvement. Tried the latest jum build 4.10.2. Thanks to everbody who made suggestions but I'm about ready to give up on Limewire for a while and see if it's fixed in the next release. The only good thing is that any active downloads seem to complete at normal speed even though everything else is so slow that it is unusable. So I've got about 10 minutes after opening LW to enter some download requests then I have to leave it running for about half an hour. When I come back LW will have quit but I might have a few files downloaded. Not ideal.

Deano

There's a memory leak in LW 4.10 for Mac OSX. As soon as you do a search, the VM memory increases & doesn't stop. My suggestion would be that in the meantime you aim for one of Jum's builds that does not include the Spam filter. Look at his nightly builds as he normally includes a no. of versions. Choose one of the earlier ones.

My LW 4.10 runs for 1 hr if I do a search & then crashes. However, as OAH said, he tried the version without the spam filter & it seems to work ok for him. The alternative is to step back a version until LW releases a bug fix.

LOTR, I'd be very happy to go back to an earlier version. The version I was running before was fine but I'm not sure which one it was. Do you know where I can download earlier versions?

Deano

See my pm. I'll send you a couple of 4.9 versions.

Big thanks to LOTR. I went back to LW4.8.1 and it runs fine. Getting internal error messages ocasionally when it has been open for a long time, but I remember getting those before. Ran it for two hours and everything is responding normally.
However I'm really confused now because the activity monitor is still showing all the physical memory used up and an ever-increasing VM allocation. So maybe the acitvity monitor is lying and it was just a red herring. When I get time I will work forwards through the versions and see at what point it goes wrong.

I just tried to really test it by opening a photoshop document. It was a bit slow but it opened ok and seemed to steal the memory back from LW. When I closed PS the free memory went back up to 200M and LW started to slowly use it all up again.

You'll "need to" delete the LW preferences folder whilst LW is closed!!! You'll find it here: /Users/your_username/Library/Preferences/LimeWire
After that LW's behaviour should return to normal. It seems that with the 4.10 adjusted preferences, the earlier version LW's behave in a similar fashion in many ways including it's natural self-searching technique after you open LW (as in when it's trying to self-connect to each incomplete one by one.)

Well I deleted the LW preferences but the activity monitor is still showing all the memory used up. So it looks like that is not the problem with LW4.10. Although there is only 5M or so free memory, most of the used memory is inactive and seems to be given up to other processes when necessary. The Virtual Memory allocation is over 3G and keeps increasing. I wonder what will happen if it runs out of disc space. Anyway thanks to LOTR I have a working version of LW again so I’m happy. I’ll try the later versions and post results, but 4.8.1 is definitely ok. Hopefully the LW developers will get on to it and provide a fix for 4.10 but in the meantime if you have the same problem I think going back to an earlier version is the only solution.

Deano

Update for anyone interested. LW4.8.1 is fine, 4.9.28 is not. The spam filter was not introduced until after 4.9.28 so it can’t be that. Maybe the problem was always there in 4.9. I don’t have an earlier version of 4.9 so I can’t pinpoint it any closer.

Deano

having the same problem with limewire 4.10
 

I am having the same exact problem and I have tried all of the fixes listed in the various threads. I am running the limewire basic 4.10 and it eventually slowes down to a crawl. I never had any problems with the previous version of limewire and likewise wish I had never clicked the download for the new version.

sorry about the cross questions
 

didn't mean to hijack another post but no one is replying to mine. Does anyone have an earlier copy of limewire basic I had no problems with my old one but I don't remember which version it was. By eventually slows to a crawl I meant that it runs slow all the time but after about 15 min I can't do any other applications on my computer and have to force quit limewire because it stops responding and then I need to restart computer to get things rolling again.

Re: having the same problem with limewire 4.10
 

What was your previous version of LW? What type of a mac do you have & what specifications?

Edit: wow my posting must be slow! I didn't even see your post when I posted this. :rolleyes: The forum's running slow but this is ridiculous. :rolleyes: :eek:

Send us a pm & specify the version you require. I'll see if I have a recently released version. But please answer my above question.

Thanks lord of the rings for responding
 

I have an emac os10.3.9 and I don't remember which version of limewire I had before but it didn't have the junk filter on it. I have had limewire for about 6 months and never had any problems until last week when I downloaded limewire 4.10.5. I have tried many of the fixes listed in other threads and am just about to give up on limewire even though I used to love it. I can't work on anything else when limewire is on and that is not good.

Just saw your edited post. Guess the forum is going a little slow:) . As for which version what is the latest version before the junk filter was added? Sorry didn't have my pm turned on will send you a pm now. Thanks.

Turned on my pm in my profile but it still says I can't see pm's. Not sure what to do about that.

Re: Thanks lord of the rings for responding
 

I thought it was 4.9.37 but apparently I'm wrong. http://www.limewire.com/english/cont..._history.shtml

Press the FAQ button above. Oh ... prolly I can fix it. But if you desire a personal solution to anything, you need to pm me not vice versa.

Will stick to my original post and stop confusing everybody.:)

LW 4.8.1
 

Relative newcomer to using the forum...but
I'm experiencing the same problems as deano777 in regards
to LW 4.10.5 and the slow speed and would like to
go back to an earlier version (like 4.8.1). Can anyone
help me out?

Don't use the Aqua Skin.
 

Hi all

Had the same problem when I downloaded 4.10 . Seemed really slow and the seemed not to display properly !!
Nightmare!! I wanted to go back to my old Limewire but couldn't.. Help

Anyway I deleted everything I could find with 'Lime ' in the title, in desperation, trashed the lot. Re-downloaded and installed direct through Safari as I have had problems with downloads not coming through Safari. Reinstalled and still the same display problems and slow !!

So I tried a different skin and all worked fine !!

Seems like all the other skins available are fine except the Aqua OSX, the one you would use and I think is the default.

Don't use the Aqua Skin.
I do like the Black Skin it's cool...
Try it !!

Would like your feedback
Good Luck
MGarvey

G4 OSX 10.2.8 867Mhz

After all that it's the skin! Well done MGarvey. I thought I'd tried everything but never imagined it could be the skin. I'm wondering if it's because the default skin uses the system menu bar and the others have their own embedded menu bar. It should be fairly easy to track down so perhaps we can hope for a fix soon or at least a mention in faqs.

Possible solution to slowdown
 

I'm aware that another poster was placing a similar message to mine (found here: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...aluminium+skin) on several threads and it got to the point where admin got a bit fed up with finding the same message all over the place. I don't want to fall into the same trap, but the suggestion worked well for me in terms of solving the general system slow down which happens when OsX 10.3.9 users install LW 4.10. Perhaps it warrants a sticky as this theme seems to come up all the time.
Upshot: OsX 10.3.9 users should consider a different skin to the Brushed Aluminium one. See if your system doesn't recover once you change the skin.
It's a painful sacrifice in terms of aesthetics, but a worthwhile one in my humble experience.

Sorry - hadn't seen deano777 and mgarvey's posts. Obviously I'm not the only one it worked for