mac-users: please respond
 

Is there anybody outthere who can really work with Limewire on the mac?
Anybody on the mac really happy with Limewire?

I am a bit angry now, because I got really no chance of using Limewire properly.
All the time these FREEZES.....arrggghhh...... they make the whole computer sleep for a minute, then it keeps going for some minutes, then there´s the next freeze...

Versions 1.4, 1.5, 1.6....(it was always the same)

I stop here using it, and hope that other things will come for the mac.

i think if Limewire works, it´s really great, but the way it is here it´s pure pain...

mikropu

Do you have a low amount of memory or a slow cpu?
Do you limit the memory for LimeWire application? It needs unlimited (~40 meg on Mac).

It use to die when taking a large number of incoming connections but we block that now.

-greg

GBildson, thanks for jumping in ;)

Okay, the facts:
I am on a G4 400, with 448MB RAM, OS 9.1, and tried LW with different memory-changes.

What is this reason for those terrible freezes? Is it Java?
I really wonder, since I truely belive that my G4 should be capable running LW.

You know, it really works very fine IF it works, but those freezes make you scream....
They come to often, and they block the whole computer....
:(

any suggestions?
mikropu

I'll see if our Mac folks have seen this before.

Are you doing huge searches? If you do big searches then I have seen the Mac freeze up while it processes all the results before (which is why we cap the Mac results at 1000). Mac has bad threading for Java. It works much better with OSX given that OSX has true multi-tasking.

-greg

I allocated 40MB now - and yes, you were right greg: It runs much better now, and the freezes are less now, and when they come they´re shorter than before. So thanks for the memory-tip greg ;)

But why is LW´s standard setting just 2MB then, when I am supposed to give it much more memory?
(Would be good to have such info´s in a readme-file)



>Mac has bad threading for Java

Yes, that´s what I always thought, even before Limewire came along. :(

One more question:
Let´s say there are several same files as search-results. When I now want to download this file once, I used to select more of one of them, in the hope that ONE of them will be downloaded.
Now, since 1.5, this isn´t possible anymore
("You are already downloading a file with this name" or so it says)

I suppose this makes sense , but which one?

thanks again for answering greg :)

mikropu

I have the same problem, it was fixed after reinstalling 1.4b. but i deleted it to install 1.6. then EVERY time i try to install 1.6, it locks up when installin 'swing.jar' i feel there is a majopr problem with that file. i run a beige g3 233, 128 mb ram. it was working, now it doesnt. help please

system requirement?
 

Does Limewire 1.6 require System 9 on a Mac? It won't run on my G3 with MRJ 2.2.5 and System 8.6

I'd have to say I'm pretty happy with LimeWire. It's a very efficient, useful Gnutella servent with (most importantly) an intuitive, clean interface. I've not really had any major problems getting what I want with it.

Limewire sucks my MacBalls for a living.

I've been using Limewire for about a month on a G4 350mg (pci) I had almost no problems with it. Since I went to 1.6 I've had a few problems with the options, and the success rate for uploads went from about 60% in 1.4 to 10% in 1.6. But all in all I've been very happy with it. (A few times it refuses to quit and give me back my computer without a restart, but I'd just have to go back to work anyway) And like a lot of other Mac users I am grateful the developers of Limewire acknowledged us at all. And as is mentioned elsewhere in this thread, OSX should make us lose our dread of the words "Java-based" Thanks!

Re: system requirement?
 

I run the same OS and it won't work for me either. At startup I get a "this application will now quit".

Do we need OS9?

//T

LimeWire Freezes Constantly
 

I've been using LimeWire for the past two months, but I've also just quit using it. I love the features, but the aggravation and hassles make this application worthless to me (not to mention all the other Mac users complaining about the same thing).

I have a G4, 533 digital audio PowerMac, with 256 MB of RAM and a huge harddrive. I have allocated 50MB of memory to LimeWire.

It doesn't matter whether I do one search, or many searches, or no searches at all. The application simply freezes / hangs up for anywhere between 30 seconds to 1 minutes ALL THE TIME. During these freezes, I can't do anything else on my computer, either. Everything just stops.

I've seen comments about Apple's poor Java threading, but LimeWire is the only Java app that I have a problem with. If LimeWire wants to support the Mac platform, GREAT -- except, make sure the darn thing works right first.

One more thing...
 

Oh, and I'm using OS 9.1.

not sure which version i updated from but every document i have downloaded turns into a limewire document instead of a quicktime doc and i can't open it

why?????


also, this error is bull ****...

i used to be able to click on a bunch of files with the same name and different locales and choose the fastest...

Adding my two cents
 

I have G3 350MHZ with 256 ram running on OS 8.6. I was having problems before Limewire, so I backed up and wiped everything.
After a fresh start the computer ran perfectly until I installed Limewire 1.6, the problem occurred when the installer tried to replace the javascript stating the program needed a newer version. So the second installation was successful but now the computer does crash, certainly not as frequently as before but I know that it's Limewire causing the problem. So is a fix coming soon?
Also as I have read in other posts, mpeg and documents downloaded are unreadable, any suggestions?

Don't get me wrong I do like the program but the bugs are frustrating.

Gary-

If you don't mind firing up LimeWire one last time, does reducing the number of connections in the "Connections" tab help at all? I recommend reducing the number of connections to 2.

Thanks.

Type 2 Error Crashes on Mac OS 9.1
 

Any thoughts on why Limewire 1.6d consistently crashes on me? It's installed on a brand new IBook 500mhz G3 and I've installed and uninstalled it more times than I care to admit.

At startup, it asks me for the first-time use settings (connection speed, et. al) even if I've set them in the past. The real problem kicks in whenever I try to either switch to a different tab window (monitor, for example) or try to switch back to the finder with Limewire running. Either way, I end up Limewire crashing with a Type 2 error message.

As I've said, I've uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times, run TechTool on my Desktop folder. Is there a conflict I'm not aware of? The computer's brand new, so not much other than the current versions of kensington mouseworks and behierachic have been installed.

The only other thing I can think of is mrj was updated when I ran the Software Update a few days after getting my IBook.

Thanks.

-m

Does it always crash when you try to go to a new tab? If you are able to go to the "Connections" tab, try reducing the number of connections to 2 to see if that helps things at all.

I would also recommend increasing the amount of memory allocated to LimeWire to 40 megs or more.

iMac user
 

I`m so glad I saw this site...I was very close to turn nuts. LimeWire is not working very well at my computer either my iMac is using MacOs9, has 64RAM and 20GB, and I`m sorry to say...I`m no proff. at this...I`m from Norway so I`m not so good in reading english....so that gave me a lot of problems to...:-) Anyone here who can tell me what other programs (than LimeWire) to use on my puter??? please....

To add to my comments of using Limewire on the new IBook:

I tried the 40 megs of memory and it didn't help at all. I'll try lowering the connections to 2 if I can get in before it crashes on me.

Just for my own sanity, what does a type -2 error entail? What's causing this?

-m

Nope. Reinstalled Limewire, set the connections to 2, gave it 40 megs of memory. Did a download just fine. Moment I tried to switch to the finder it came crashing down just as it has every other time I tried.

And I made a mistake on my previous post. It was, in fact, a type 2 error message, NOT a type -2. It's a repeatable error. Same act produces the same results, whether I click on the applications menu or click onto the desktop.

-m

Same here with the new iBook. Running OS 9.1 with 256mg ram. Doesn't quit all the time, but fairly often when switching to other apps. Have not updated MRJ. Frustrating....

I am running an G3 iMac 500 - have allocated 50Meg and also get the type 2 error. I solved it simply by not touching the applications tab when using limewire. To change applications I just click on the application windows behind limewire and there are no crashes.

For people getting the Type 2 error, there should be a file in your LimeWire installation directory called "limewire.lax." If you open that file in a text editor, there should be a line that reads:

lax.nl.macos.apple.menu.quit=false

Try changing this to read:

lax.nl.macos.apple.menu.quit=true

and see if you still get the error.

>Try changing this to read:

>lax.nl.macos.apple.menu.quit=true

>and see if you still get the error.

Didn't work. Still get the error. I am finding, as someone suggested, that I can switch windows, so long as I click on the window itself. If I try using the applications menu, same crash type 2 results. Though this was the case before I edited the text file. No changes either way since.

-m

response to rcq 1017
 

download MacZilla from download.cnet.com, and it automatically recognizes the file type, configures it to a Maczilla file, and you can play it. AVI's will freeze the computer though, better to use mpegs only with maczilla

Changes didn't help...
 

Unfortunately this didn't help matters. I also read through the thread, and attempted your other suggested fix, but the following line does not even appear in my LimeWire.lax file:

lax.nl.macos.apple.menu.quit=false

Thanks to everyone for trying these solutions, and our apologies for the continuing frustrations.

As I've mentioned before, the underlying problem here is that Java is really not very well supported on Mac OS 9.1 and below, although it is very well supported on OSX. We will continue to try to fix these problems, but I am not optimistic due to the weak underlying support for the programming language.

With all due respect, LimeWire is the ONLY Java app that causes problems like this consistently. I suggest the problem is not the Java support in OS 9.1, but more realistically with LimeWire's poor technical implementation.

This seems to be a regular problem when engineers try port a Windows application to the Mac... there is a basic lack of understanding of how to correctly write the language using Apple's OS. Maybe OSX will help, but many of us refuse to switch over until this platform is fully supported across the board... and it's a convenient excuse for developers who write shabby products for Mac OS 9.1 and below.

From the functionality design standpoint, LimeWire is a sleek, sexy Corvette. Unfortunately, under the hood, the engine is more like a Yugo. I strongly recommend that everyone avoid this junker.

The JVM implementation for the Mac has serious technical issues for any sophisticated program. Its use of cooperative threads, for example, means that a program using many threads (like LimeWire) can exhibit serious performance limitations. Multithreading is, however, a cornerstone of modern programming, and should be supported in a robust manner.

LimeWire is an extremely well architected and robust program. We program to the API, as any good program should do, and Apple's Java API is Sun's API. They do not maintain an API of their own for, they simply use Sun's.

With all due respect to Gary, LimeWire is not a Windows program that was ported to the Mac. LimeWire is a Java program written to the Java API.

While we admittedly have not had the resources to devote as much effort to the Mac version of LimeWire as we would like, please be aware that we have not had similar problems with JVMs on any other platform. LimeWire performs well on Linux, Solaris, other Unix varieties, and even OS2. It also performs quite well on OSX. Mac OS 9.1 and below is the only platform exhibiting these problems, and this is all with the exact same code base, as it should be with a Java application.

This strongly points to a well architected program experiencing the limitations of the underlying Java implementation.

Launching
 

I just started using LW yesterday. It seems to run fine and download to library OK. My problem is that when trying to launch a file nothing happens. No errors, no lockups, just nothing. If there is something else I need to do it is not apparent to me. I have an iMac B 8.6 using NS 4.78

I run os9.1 and it seems the freezes that will come every so often (lasting about 25 to 20 seconds) may be the result of some type of connection thing. After the freeze, I can usually see that some of, if not all the connections have dropped. I use the program all the time and my real only complaint with it is the successfull download percentage is sometimes low. I also liked the ability to download multiple versions of a song or file in hopes that one would lock on. I'm on a dsl modem and sometimes the downloads are slower than other peer-to-peer networks. For the most part, I like your program and am thankful for the work you have put into it.

PS. Why is the download speed so much slower than....say....Napster?:p

Re: Re: system requirement?
 

This is very interesting. I had exactly the same problem (I'm on OS 8.6 (swedish), on 266 Mhz G3). But yesterday I downloaded 1.6d (which I guess is new right?) and now it starts OK. But it will not give me any reliable connections. Every host I connect to is dropped after a few seconds until I'm unconnected.

Are these problems related? Did it quit in the earlier version because it "saw" there was a problem, which it doesen't see now?

I really wish I could use LimeWire. It looks nicer then the buggy Mactella.

--tor

Re: iMac user
 

Try Mactella (http://www.cxc.com/). It's working OK on my Mac (OS 8.6, G3). It's not very good but the only Gnutella-application I can get to work on my computer.

-- T

No problems here
 

Just thought I'd add that I have had no crashes so far running the latest version of limewire. I'm running 9.1 with 192mb ram with virtual memory enabled. Everything's been great except for the fact that uploads are interrupted every couple of seconds. Things are very stable for me.

I get those same freezes with Limewire. Lombard Powerbook, 9.1. I guess we'll just have to wait for OS 10.1 and then upgrade.

Is your MRJ up to date? I too have limewire running on a lombard w/ 9.1 and have never had a single crash. Are you using some whack *** extensions that are causing problems?
http://downloAd.info.apple.com/Apple..._2.2.5.smi.bin

error type 11
 

The first time I ran LW it seemed pretty solid functionally, but cosmetically when I would switch switch back and forth between tabs I would lose more and more parts of the window, until I was left with an empty window. Then, and every time since, when I restart the program I am met with type 11 errors. I've rebuilt the desktop and all that several times, but it still won't start up, even after a fresh installation. After reading the above posts I'll up the memory and see if that does anything, but this is a pain in the butt.

Allan

its true this program freezes often..I find the less I ask it too do at one time the better results I get. LIke dont do two searches at once...dont add files to yolur incoming list while a search is still going on..things like that..

Im glad to hear about increasing the memory..Ill try it..also looking foward to osx when the more important graphics apps get up to speed..untill than
i guess were stuck with this mess of a p to p..what are the alternatives??

Re: error type 11
 

Forgot to mention I'm using a G3 clone with 9.0.4. Upped the memory allocation and was able to finish the setup procedure, but then encountered the all-too-familiar type 11 crash. I got a copy of Mactella, and while it's more like a VW, it runs fine for me.

Allan

works great for me
 

Launch button - Mac version
 

Hello -

Is the Launch button supposed to be doing something? I figured it would launch the file in the appropriate application, but it does nothing. Help!

thanks