Can't browse windows host with my mac or vice-versa
 

We have 2 computers at home on a router. We can't browse each other's computer and we can't play games together by connecting to the other's IP address. Is there a way to get another IP than the one given by the router so we can connect? Or some other solution?

Thank you very much


Windows XP
Mac OSX 10.2.8

Easiest way would be to connect via ethernet so you're networked.

I presume you forwarded a port to allow LW access right? If you're using LW on both computers then you'd need to forward a separate port number for each. Most modem-routers have internal NAT firewalls. So people would be having major problems uploading from either of you. One way to check is to open LW & leave it on at least 30 mins on each comp & then do this test: Bug Report instructions & sample image If the report says False then you're firewalled for that port no. This is probably why you can't see each other.

What's more, for LW one separate port per instance of each computer is all that's necessary. BUT for games it's a different story. Many games require multiple ports to be opened. You'd need to check your game instructions for net use & see the advanced instructions about this to find out which ports are required to be opened.

SO what modem-router brand & model number(s) are you using? Perhaps I can direct you to some instructions on how to do it if there's any online.

The router we are using is: Lynksys Etherfast cable/dsl router with 4-port switch.

The modem is: Motorola SB4101 SURFboard cable modem.

I'm windows impaired so could you explain to me how to change the port numbers on that computer?

Thank you very much.

I don't have specific instructions for that model Motorolla. Manual for your modem If it's a switch I presume it can't be PF for the Linksys You didn't give a model for the router. Could check here: http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm

Hmm upon review thru the manual I couldn't find any info about opening ports. The issue could be with your router.

The router model no. is: BEFSR41

I thought about the ethernet connection, but we both only have one ethernet port. So I don't see how we could connect to each other directly and use only one computer's internet connection.

Does it exist an ethernet port splitter like you would use for tv cables?

Could it be just a matter of compatibility between macs and pcs?

By the way, the only way I found to browse the windows host is to search a file that I know the windows computer has. I get a hit that has blue stars instead of yellow and if I press "browse host" before there are other hits, I get to see what's in the other computer and the download is way faster. But my problem still resides when I want to do a "direct connect".

So you can browse the windows computer. I didn't think you could earlier. So with your browsers from each computer go to http://www.whatismyip.com/ & tell us if the ip's are the same. If not then that's the ip you should use to DC. I'm thinking you might need to set up a different listening port for one of the computers. Say one uses port 6346 & the other 6348 or 6342 etc. You can set that in Tools>Options>Advanced>Port/Firewall settings or mac that's LW Prefs of course instead of Tools.

Looks like we have the same IP. We tried changing the ports on the windows one and that didn't do anything. Then we tried changing the ports on the mac and that didn't work either.

On my mac, I changed some of the file sharing settings to allow windows files sharing (oups!...) and also the LW port to 6348. I restarted LM and now I have a new paragraph in the "direct connect" window that says: when your friends want to connect to you they should enter...
So it seems like my mac can now allow direct connect, but the windows computer doesn't have that paragraph and still doesn't direct connect to me or vice-versa.
I went on the Lynksys website, but I don't understand how to assign a static IP to foward a port and I would hate screwing up the other computer.
We now decided to trash the LM that was in the windows computer and we are downloading the latest version. We will see if this could help resolve our problem.

I'm a little different. I run both mac & windows 2k on my computer & have them both running LW. Strange huh! You guessed it, I'm using Virtual PC. They are networked together but I still haven't fathomed how to get them talking to each other. I can't even seem to browse the other. So you're doing better than me. My issue I don't need to explain (have same ip no. & port forwarded for the mac. More complicated when it's the same comp.)

I have a link for setting up a static ip instructions for Linksys. But if you're concerned then that's ok. Get it wrong & it can be a nuisance!

Remember that if you want to browse or DC then it's always best to have Chat enabled on both.

For windows that's:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/attach...at-options.gif

For mac then:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/attach...hat-option.gif

To know if somebody is chat enabled you should Right-click or for mac that's control-click the top of the column bar & select your options. Choose Chat. This is also available in the downld/Search Results/& Upload windows.

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/attach...llo-chop-b.gif

Hum LW 4.4 and up configure those Linksys computer automaticatilly, get it at www9.limewire.com:82/download/

Also, I think that you can connect to other LW on a lan by typing the lan address in the direct connect tab: ie 192.168.1.100:6346 To know your lan IP in os x go in system preferences, network, ethernet (or airport), select configure, go in TCP/IP tab and you should see the IP address.

Bonne chance!!
;)

Chat was already enabled on both LMs.

We installed the new 4.4.3 version on the windows computer and disabled the firewall, but it still says that the firewall or a router is blocking the direct connect feature. In the options/firewall, it says that LM can work aroud the router by using UPnP but it doesn't do it.

If I select the "manual port" it says that I have to configure the router also. But I just tried that earlier and I lost all internet connections on both computers! I had to call Linksys support to reconfigure the router. So I'm pretty scared to play around with that again. The problem was that it's the mac that has the primary internal IP and when we assigned a static IP, it wasn't for the right computer. Anyway, I'm sure there's an easier (and fool-proof) way.

On the MS website, I found an upgrade for peer-to-peer connections, maybe that will work. The only other info I found there was that Windows 2000 is AppleTalk compatible, but nothing about win xp. There has to be a way for us to network because right now, we can't even share a printer! We have to play with the cables all the time.

In the Network setup wizard, it says that we have to run it on all computers that we want on the network, but I obviously can't run a win app on the mac (much less a win configured cd or floppy...).

If you can find anything alse, please keep me posted! I'm pulling my hair out over this!

Thanks

Your 2 computers are not connected directly on a lan right! You're only connected via the modem & router. So it's a bit different. (That's the way I see it!)

If you were connected directly via lan then you should be able to share printers. Particularly if you were using an assistant such as whatever it's called ... David I think. It can help to network a mac & pc.

Bien le bonjour cher ami québécois!

The problem is that we can't see each other on internet at all. We can't share printers, we can't direct connect on LM or in Age of Empires or anything else.

When we use the laptop (wich is also a PC running win xp), we can play against each other directly using our internal IP addresses (i.e. [Edit]) as long as we are using the same versions of the game. But we can't with the mac.

In LM, when I try to browse his computer with the method I explained earlier (blue stars instead of yellow), the IP that I see is [Edit]. But if I type the same thing in the direct connect window, it tells me that I can't browse this host.

I'm going to look on the Linksys website again to try to find a miracle! When I called them about loosing my connection, I also asked them about file and printer sharing and he said that he is not aloud to give us that information on the phone, that I have to take my chances on the website.

Vive le Québec libre!

Try [Edit].

That also gets back to my earlier reference to setting a different listening port on the 'other' LW.

Edited by request of user and ALSO because of the House Rules. :rolleyes: (para LotR) :p

We did that, on the mac the port is 6348 and on the PC it's 6346.

I tried to connect to the pc using both the internal IP address ([Edit]) and the external IP:6346. But none of them work.

On the pc, I tried the same thing with 6348, but it says that a firewall or a router is blocking the direct connect feature. The firewalls of both computers are disabled. Now it seems that it's really just a router problem and that it it's a pc thing because we can't connect to anyone at all with that computer and it doesn't have that little added paragraph I mentioned earlier. BTW, on the mac, in that paragraph, it says that my IP adress is the external one:6348, not the usual internal [Edit] that it shows me when I look in my system preferences.

Well I tried the lan thing here, and it doesn't work, while the exterior IP works. I also just tried to connect to your IP with the 6346 and 6348 ports and it doesn't work, meaning that either your router or modem blocks connections. Are you sure UPnP is enabled in your Linksys config (look in the router settings).

Bonne chance

I am trying to setup an exception for the firewall on the pc. Can someone explain to me what I should write exactly in the fields? Windows firewall/advanced/services/add...

Description of service: (LimeWire...duh...)

Name or IP address of computer hosting this service on your network:.......???
which one should I write the mac's or the pc's, the internal or the external?

External port number for this service:.....???
6346 or 6348?

Internal port number for this service:....???
6346 or 6348?

TCP or UDP?


BTW can one of you try to connect to my mac's IP and tell me if it was with a pc or a mac and if it worked? [Edit]

I double checked and the UPnP is enabled for the router and there is an exception setup already for LW, but I want to make another one manually.

You have to open both UDP and TCP protocols. If what you told me earlier is exact, the 6348 should forward to the lan IP of your mac, while 6346 would redirect to the lan IP of your PC. The best thing to do first is to set static lan IPs to your computers. http://www.portforward.com/networkin...ic-xp-dhcp.htm
For mac os x, you should use sys prefs, network, TCP/IP -> configure IPv4 via DHCP and manual address, this is the easiest way to do it.

Bonne chance

So far I haven't been able to DC with that ip & either port 6346 or 6348 using win or mac. I'll try again later.

(By they way that Dave softw I was refering to is for networking b/w a mac & pc & makes it easy. I have a friend who uses it. And it (an earlier version) was already on another 2nd hand G4 we got last year. Networking directly might be the go.)

As I recall your modem also accepts USB. Though I wouldn't normally recommend usb if you have ethernet.


LOL I think I'm slow this time of day! Particularly my posting. After seeing et voilà's post I think I'm not the right suggestion at the moment. A firewall/? may explain why I can't DC though!

I don't understand because I just direct connected with someone that has a pc!

My firewall (mac) is definately disabled and if I was able to connect, you should be able too, no??? This is really getting weird. Maybe I'm getting too tired also!

:confused:

The pc doesn't connect to anyone at all, it's not even just with my mac.

Hiya, schmoozie...

Well, now... Wasn't that fun ???

You sure did get a lot of responses... which proves how great these Gnutella Forums really are, hmmm ?

And.... A note for you freaks out there who think that there is too much moderator action around here... All of the edits performed above were due to both the House Rules AND a personal request from the world famous 'schmoozie' !


p.s.

I am (unfortunately !) somewhat of an 'expert' on Direct Connecting within the Gnutella Network...

Please understand that even if you have 'Hers & His' ( like the order ?) bathrooms that both have computers and internet connections (in the SAME house), that does NOT... NOT... NOT... (geddit ?) Not mean that you will 'probably' connect or 'find' one another within the Gnutella Network !!! Amusing, huh ?

Doing so-called 'direct connects' within the Gnutella Network requires quite a bit of practice and DEFINITELY both (all) users also using an independent (Meaning not part of any Gnutella Network Client service) CHAT connection.

btw... LotR, although suffering from one of the most serious problems that man has ever known... (being Australian !)... is actually one of the few survivors on this blighted planet who will be able to solve your problems... Well, the computer problems, at least !


:p

I can't even find the damn start button to disable my firewall. when i enable the chat it doesn't do anything!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

UPnP
 

:PEACE:If you have a DSL modem, it also has to be Universal Plug & Play enabled in it's modem configuration setup. Call your ISP tech support & they can guide you through your particular modem setup. Good luck!!!!!!