Quick time itunes mix-up??
 

Hey I am not sooo computer savy and just started sharing files. Anyway when I first started sharing files the music i would download would be in itunes and all of a sudden it is in Quicktime. please help.

Quinn S. Kurz

Same problem here! Whats going on?

Is it possible that you had itunes as your preference and then installed a newer version of quicktime and the preferences got changed during the install

Most of my downloads are iTunes files but some are Quicktime. I attribute it to Limewire flakiness. My advice is just don't worry. Drop that file on the iTunes app icon. You never really need to deal with the file itself once it's in your library. If it's really a problem change the creator code with a program like Resorcerer.

Files types when used with QT and SoundJam
 

I'm having same problem with SoundJam, QT, and Limewire playing nice together.

Here's what happens:
When I start to download from LW, all is good, and a file of type Soundjam apears in the "Incomplete downloads" folder. If I doubleclick this file, it plays perfectly in Soundjam, no intermediate steps.

However, when the file finishes downloading, LW moves it from the "Incomplete" folder to the "Shared" folder, or wherever you designate (I made a new folder for this purpose called "Recent Downloads". As soon as LW moves the file to this completed folder, the Soundjam file type is lost, and I can't play the MP3 without dragging it onto a player of some sort.

Because this happens when the file is moved, I suspect it's a LW problem? Help!

mp3's saved as QT format by default now
 

Yep - me 2! When I upgraded my Mac's Quicktime all my mp3's were suddenly saved as quicktime files. (Note: I do not have iTunes on my Mac, I hate iTunes!)
Now after I download a batch of songs (or whatever) I have to use FileTyper to change the creator code on each and every MP3. What a major pain in the tush!*groans*

Excuse me Limewire Developers, but not all Mac users have or even *LIKE* iTunes. It would be really nice if you let us choose how our files were saved as - many of us prefer SoundJam, GreyAmp or other MP3 players. Why can't the USER specify how it's saved?

@ afisk

WOW! I would LOVE to be able to specify the application that a downloaded file recognizes as the default program to open it. and not just MP3's either, that would be so handy with text files (which usually default to SimpleText when I prefer AppleWorks) and gif/jpg images (usually default to QuickTime PictureViewer when I prefer PhotoShop) too.
Your FAQ describes how Windows users can change default program recognition easily, but no Mac help there. It would be great to see that as part of the Limewire program in a future release.

I can definatly tell you that right after I installed the Quicktime 5 update all my Limewire downloads were saved as Quicktime media files when moved to the "shared" folder, so I do believe QT was at fault not LimeWire. However, there does not seem to be a way to change this setting back in the LimeWire program.

QuickTime MP3's have a creator code of TVOD
Generic MP3's have a creator code of MAmp (usually) or Audn (rarely)
I do not know about SoundJam or iTunes. I believe "hook" creator code is for iTunes but I am not sure, sorry.

My current workaround involves using the shareware program FileTyper ($10 shareware fee), download at http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~dazuma/filetyper/ to manually change the creator codes on the files. It's a bit time consuming but it does work.
Also another program called "Resorcerer" was mentioned above but I am unfamiliar with it.

Adam, if you haven't read it yet, I gave a short explanation of the type and creator codes here:
<http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...6967#post21839>

These links might also be helpful:
<http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0002/23.deb.shtml>
<http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/>

It would be WONDERFUL to be able to change the creator codes in Limewire, thanks for considering that as a future option :)
Would there be any way we could just "browse" our hard drive for the application we wanted the specific file to default to, and have it supply the creator code or will we need to know the codes ourselves?

More clues to the type question
 

After reading the recent posts, I think I can say that the hook file type is what is causing my particular download problems.

Every single one of my working, easily playable mp3s seems to have been converted by Soundjam to type mpg3, creator=sjam either during some sort of setup or as it was played.

Using iChange, I can see that downloading files are type=mpg3, creator=sjam while they download. When they're finished downloading, Limewire moves them to a different folder, and they magically become type=mpg3, creator code=hook.

I tried adding entries to the file exchange control panel for this hook creator code, but the required info doesn't match up with "type" and "creator."
The file exchange control panel asks for extension (I assume this=mp3), name (?), and mime type (?). Can anyone help match these up? Does this seem like it would help recognize the "hook" type for those of us that don't have iTunes installed?

I didn't have this issue before I recently installed both QT 5 and Limewire 2.11 Pro. So I may try reinstalling Soundjam now and see if that helps things...

And afisk -- the option to set the creator code sounds GREAT. So valuable to have you on this list.

-Micah

thanks
 

:D *applause*

Adam, thanks for all your help. I'd love to see this ability to change/ assign creator codes in a new Limewire version.

efield, thanks for the links and info. you're always posting here and so super helpful, and it's really appreciated.

Re: More clues to the type question
 

Thanks, candyangel.

The File Exchange control panel is the place to do it. Make a file with a creator code of 'hook' and a type code of 'Mp3 ' using one of the type and creator code applications such as FileTyper. These codes are case sensitive and always four characters so this type code ends with a space. There are two tabs in the File Exchange CP and here you want to work from the File Translation tab. Click Add... at the bottom of the window and pick the file that you set the codes too. Another dialog will display with applications that can play MP3s such as QuickTime Player or Audion. Soundjam should be in this list too. Select an app and now files of that type open with the selected app.

A note that a creator code of 'hook' and a type code of 'mpg3' didn't work; I got an error that no application could handle this file type. If Soundjam is doing this I wonder what they're up to.

I tested this on OS 9.1 with QuickTime 4.

Adding apps to "translate" list?
 

efield --
Thanks for the detailed instructions -- I'm getting close!

However, in the second dialog box (the one where you pick the app that you want to use to translate, ONLY QT shows up. I have Win media player and SoundJam installed, so seems like both of those should be in there as well. Any idea how to get apps added to this list?

I'm going to try rebuilding the desktop, reinstalling SoundJam, and see if that helps.

-Micah

I _could_ explain it to you, but i have a german MacOS and don't know the english translation for my buttons. :(

if you have your help system installed, then fire it up and search for the term "file exchange". this gives you overdetailed instructions how to get datatypes installed or recognized.

an installed help system is recommended, of course

thats the reason, why macs always under pcs, they are so easy, no one mind it to go the simpliest way :-)))

Thanks, unregistered --
Go ahead and give me the German, maybe it'll help. I speak only limited terrible Deutsch, but maybe I can find my dictionary somewhere. Also, I tried searching the Mac help system for file exchange and got instrux re: using the control panel, but I can't find any instrux re: adding apps to the window.

But I did have some luck -- I deleted the prefs file for SoundJam, restarted, and re-ran the initial setup for SJ, choosing to have SJ handle all MP3s. Then I rebuilt the desktop, which finally allowed SJ to show up in the File Exchange dialog box that efield mentioned. Seems that installing the app is the only way to get it "recognized"?

So now the files are easier to open -- the dialog box pops up each time I dbl-click on an mp3 downloaded from LW, and it has SJ listed as a choice. But the files retain their creator=hook until I filetype them into submission.

I'd say that's as far as I can go until afisk codes the creator choice into a future release of LW.

...Or until I decide to use iTunes. Which reminds me -- does iTunes interface with Toast? It's convenient that in SJ, you can create a playlist, hit "make CD," and transfer all the info into Toast ready to burn. Can iTunes do this? Couldn't find the answer at apple.com.

Thx all,
-Micah

If you don't want a dialog box every time you open a 'hook' mp3, uncheck "Always show choices when translating files" in the File Exchange CP. This setting will apply to any mystery file; the first choice for that type of file will be used every time.

Soundjam may have an option in the prefs to automatically associate files with Soundjam when then are opened. Audion does this, "When files are played associate them with Audion."

Hey, Mac users, know thy platform. Change/correct your downloading in File Exchange (system 9 or below). View by creator, change what you want changed, and eliminate the grief. You can get to the dialog through the Internet CP as well. Some updates are very aggressive (such as RealPlayer), and they mess with your settings. If necessary, you can even trash your prefs and start from scratch. The first time you try to open an audio file (with a plain icon), your friendly Mac will offer you choices and you can pick whichever program you want for a default.

but I dont want a default program set AT ALL
 

This isen't just about setting the "right" default program, its also about the freedom to not set a default program at all for some files.
I resent that the Quicktime updater messed up my computer somehow and now all mp3 files "become" quicktime docs when downloading completes, no matter what the file exchange cp tells them to be. I would like all mp3 files to ask me each time which player I want to use and not have a "default" player set. I still can't make that work unless I manually change the creator codes myself. Perhaps I am missing some obvious "ask me each time" setting?

:) BUT I was successful in making all txt files open in Appleworks and all gif/jpgs open in Photoshop!

candyangel try unchecking "Enable QuickTime Exchange" under the QuickTime Exchange section in the QuickTime Settings control panel. When I was testing this I was told I would need to restart for this change to take. I didn't bother with that so this may not do what you want but if there is an option for what you're asking for this sounds like it.

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And then my computer crashed. Looks like it works. When you add .mp3 or whatever to the end of a file now it doesn't change it to QuickTime.

OK, I'll try it
 

:) I'll try that and let you know what happens.
*hugs* to you efield for always having a great tip or new idea.

I was able to fix the mix up by uninstalling LimeWire and itunes then re-installing itunes and LimeWire. I placed LimeWire in the itunes plugins and everything worked. Good Luck!