Beware of Zeropaid.com forums - They are a Honeypot Trap - Heres the Proof!
 

I found this on the ES5 forums - http://forums.es5.com - and I think you all need to beware of Zeropaid.com. They have proven ties to the RIAA / MPAA / & Digital Rights Management people.

Hello Everybody,

Zeropaid.com was created 4 years ago by Christopher Levy, a leading Digital Rights Management software producer. Mr. Levy met Chris Hedgecock at MSN.COM about 4 years ago and came up with the idea of creating Zeropaid.com.

Many of you thought that Mr. Chris Hedgecock and his 3 year veteran roomate Jorge Gonzales own and control the site.

Here are the stats on Chris Hedgecock and Jorge Gonzales...
http://www.zeropaid.com/php/crew.php

They are only TRAFFIC COPS. The real agenda of Zeropaid.com is Digital Rights Management, or the acronym "DRM".

DRM technology at its root was created by Mr. Christopher Levy specifically for the United States Government. Since the US goverment wants to stop paying hundred of millions of dollars to create and maintain mainframe computers, P2P is the natural alternative. Using the CPU's of hundreds of thousands of computers and not having to store everything all in one place is the idea. DRM technology is also good for the US Government because the file is encrypted on everybodys computer and if somebody hacks your computer, they cant penetrate into the file. If a hacker penetrates a DRM computer and downloads the files, he will be tracked and persecuted, but will never actually be able to view the contents of the file.

Publicly promoting DRM as you know it is the "industrialization of digital authtentification".

Mr. Levy has made millions of dollars in publicly promoting DRM for media companies and is considered NUMBER #1 in the DRM industry.

Introducing Mr. Christopher Levy, CEO of BUYDRM

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As CEO and Founder of BuyDRM, a leading provider of World Class DRM technologies in the Entertainment and Media Markets, Levy has been a driving force in the rapid evolution of the Streaming Media industry. After founding ClickHear Productions in 1995 and later leading the sale of the company to CMGi for nearly $6 Million, Christopher invented and led to market "streamOS", the industry's first Overlay Content Management/Delivery Platform for publishing streaming media across multiple Content Delivery Networks. streamOS was used by MSN to WebCast Madonna to 9 Million viewers making it the largest WebCast in history.

Post CMGi, Levy founded and led to market the world's first integrated DRM/Credit Card Processing Solution, dMESH from DRM Networks.

Levy has worked for a top-shelf list of streaming media clients including Interscope Records, IslandDefJam Records, Swell, Budweiser, NFL Films, Grand Royal Records, The Museum of Television and Radio, Microsoft, Intel and others.

Levy was recently featured in the Hungry Mind's Release: "The Streaming Media Bible" and has appeared on ABCNews.com, StreamingMedia.com, ZDNet.com and has spoken at The Internext-Expo, The Streaming Media Conference, Digital Hollywood, NATPE, NAB and SXSW. Levy currently manages Business Development for ZeroPaid.com the World's Largest file sharing news portal.

Levy studied Chemical Engineering at the United States Military Academy at West Point and was a Senatorial Appointee to Japan for the state of Nevada.



http://www.streamingmedia.com/bio.asp?id=701

The same article...
http://christopherlevy.com

And dont forget...
http://www.buydrm.com/

I want to inform everybody that Mr. Chris Hedgecock, age 25, is not and was never the real decision maker of Zeropaid. At best, he is a front man, a pawn, and a sales agent for Zeropaid.com, as well as a sales agent and front man for various other businesses owned and controlled by Christopher Levy. Chris did not start Zeropaid.com when he was 20 years old. The site was funded and promoted by Chris Levy. Jorge Gonzales did alot of the design while Chris was the front man and sales promoter.

Why would Christopher Levy, a multi millionaire, work for a shitty portal called Zeropaid.com that makes no money? Millionaires dont have time for **** like this, specifically when they are making real money selling their DRM content to big people like the RIAA. Chris Levy doesnt work for ZP, rather opposite, ZP works for him.

QUOTE
Levy was recently featured in the Hungry Mind's Release: "The Streaming Media Bible" and has appeared on ABCNews.com, StreamingMedia.com, ZDNet.com and has spoken at The Internext-Expo, The Streaming Media Conference, Digital Hollywood, NATPE, NAB and SXSW. Levy currently manages Business Development for ZeroPaid.com the World's Largest file sharing news portal.

Levy studied Chemical Engineering at the United States Military Academy at West Point and was a Senatorial Appointee to Japan for the state of Nevada.


In another thread, Mr. Chris Hedgecock asks all DRM ACTIVISTS to come to Zeropaid.com and learn the P2Pr's habits..

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Christopher Hedgecock, executive vice president of EmpireDRM (www.empiredrm.com), recommended Webmasters visit sites like ZeroPaid.com and subscribe to newsletters like DRMDaily (www.drmdaily.com) to familiarize themselves with the concepts behind P2P networks and their popularity, and then begin transforming their content into material that will promote their businesses and make them money even if it's stolen and traded on the big commercial networks.


Chris does not deny the above statement. He simply says he was 24 years old, they flew him out to Vegas, and they got him laid, and he got to hang out with big wig porn stars and producers, etc, etc. Read the article and you will see very clearly what ZEROPAID.COM is really for. Its for DRM.

Here is Chris's Statement on this issue (posted as DUBSTYLEE of ZP): Click Here to See

And for the original article from where he is quoted...
http://www.avnonline.com/issues/2003...0403_003.shtml

ES5 had several banners and ads running over the last few months. In total, we paid $1,500 dollars for those ads that ran for a couple of months all over their forum. $1,500 for a couple months of advertising is nothing. All of their other ads are generally companies that are owned by Christopher Levy and/or managed by Christopher Headcock, including the FMS NETCHECK banner that is currently on all of their webpages.

Zeropaid.com does NOT MAKE MONEY. I doubt they even sell 10 T-Shirts a month with their logo on it.

Meanwhile, ES5 kept receiving evidence about Zeropaid's involvement in DRM. It was clear to us at ES5 that Sephiroth and other ZP people were trying to dig up information on us from the beginning. Sephiroth of ZP went as far as saying that he has known Chris and Jorge since the beginning of ZP, over 4 years ago, and that they have absolutely no involvement with DRM. I pointed out that Chris Headcock is in fact involved and will be attending the CONTENT WORLD to promote DRM on October 8th. Since then, no word from Sephiroth!

We decided to play ZP at their own game, simply because we knew they were sell outs. We made sure that nobody in the middle east would talk about us. ZP found nothing out about ES5. ZP admits to using contacts in fortune 500 companies to search for who is financing ES5. What kind of P2P'r is interested in who finances us? So it was obvious that somebody is financing the ZP agenda to gather information on ES5, and we have taken great pains to investigate exactly who.

For Zeropaid, Bandwidth is expensive, and obviously since ZP has never had anything over 250 people online at any given time, their site is not big. See their stats now online here

ZP was just made to look big, by pre-registering user accounts, but in reality, the owners cannot manipulate the amount of users who appear online, thus their online stats are what counts, and not the amount of users they say they have.

ZP makes sure that the threads reach all major search engines immediately by simple "crawlers". ZP is full of fake accounts. A P2P board that sports 166,000 registered members would have had over 250 people inside of it at any given time. I should note they had 250 people online over 6 months ago, and now, according to their stats, they barely have 26 people in their forum as I write this post. Please note that the stats reflect both GUESTS and MEMBERS.

So if you visit Zeropaid logged in or not, you appear in their stats, either as GUEST or as MEMBER. All forum boards are the same. The only thing a webmaster who wants to manipulate public thought can do is manipulate the amount of user accounts by pre-registering names to make their forum look big.

Go to the birthdays at http://zeropaid.com/bbs at the far bottom and check out how many of those users have ever posted by simply clicking on any of the names. You will notice that none of those members ever posted.

People dont register on P2P forums, give out their birthdays, and additional private information like their occupation, place of residence, etc., and validate email registration without any intent to post. That is not normal. I agree that many people register to forums without posting, but they dont supply their personal information if they have no intent on posting. At least not at the bulk numbers that ZP sports. All of the fake accounts list the peoples birthdays and other private information. Its one thing to note your birthday, but also where you live and what you do for a living?

Zeropaid.com barely has 30 people online at a time, and most of those people online are MODS.

At ES5, we are only open 6 months and we have already had over 1,100 people in our forum at one time. We have less than 20,000 members, basically a 10th of the members they have. We are not in competition, rather we only seek to show you a simple reality that they are lying about their stats, and thus stealing money from their advertisers.

So again, ZP is failing. Chris Hedgecock uses several user accounts on ZP. He does this to promote his Q & A. He asks questions under one name, and answers the same questions under another user account. He does this to create attraction to his board and promote conversation. I call it PERSONALITY DISORDER.

Here is Chris on ZP using the "Dubstylee" user name.
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthre...threadid=14759

Notice Chris Headcock only shows 250 posts using the name "Dubstylee". He claims to have owned ZP for 4 years, and only has 250 posts? Yeah right! Notice that the birthday accounts were all opened in April, May, June of 2002. Notice when DUBSTYLEE opened his account - APRIL 2002!

All of Chris's user accounts are used to promote conversation and to sway common P2Pr's thought. All this bullshit about me cloning other peoples accounts or being other people like KRELL, CCSDUDE, MONYAK, STEVE15, etc., is all bullshit. Mr. Chris plays games. Anybody with common sense knows my style of writing.

I am a no bullshit poster. Read into my posts, and you will see I am to ****ing direct to waist time on bullshit posts.

Chris Hedgecock appears with Christopher Levy all over the United States promoting DRM. They will be appearing together on Octover 8th at CONTENT WORLDS DRM TECHNOLOGY CONVENTION at 13:00.
http://www.contentworld.com/conferen...on_glance.html

Notice that Chris Levy is the MODERATOR and chief panalist and Chris Hedgecock is just a speaker at Content Worlds convention. Chris Levy is the big man, the one who calls the shots, the one who has a college degree from the United States Military Academy at West Point and was a senatorial apointee to Japan for the state of Nevada. Chris Levy is the man behind DRM, both for the US GOVERNMENT and for the RIAA, MPAA, and other media associations throughout the world and the one and only man who decides the fate of ZEROPAID.com. He finances Zeropaid.com to collect data for his DRM activities. Again, the only way he can convince his clients to purchase his Digital Rights Management software is to show them Zeropaid.com and the damage that P2P is doing to the P2P industry.

Anybody who runs DRM needs a database to collect his P2P information so that he can fight it. He tells his media clients to look at that data to make their decisions when purchasing his DRM software.

So again, Chris Headcock and Jorge are slaves who get the credit while all along, its Mr. Levy who pulls the strings. Basically a classic "A King maker is always stronger than the King himself"

DRM plans to infest all P2P networks with media files that are digitally encrypted. This is worst than downloading a misnamed or fake file. It takes you hours if not days to download a movie, and then you realize upon opening it that the media has a plugin that opens a port on your computer.

That port is an inbound/outbound port. This allows the DRM servers to install spyshit on your computer. Lately, the RIAA has been using this technology to hack P2Pr's computers - specifically thanks to this ****ing ******* Mr. Levy's technology.

If you dont pay for the movie, you may face litigation for downloading it. Again, this is their plan...to make money by extorting us.

You must ban Zeropaid.com and say '**** you' to the DRM activists.

DRM does not have a network of its own. It is there to infiltrate and infest itself into P2P networks. We must fight them. Wake up NOW before it is to late.

The DRM methods of controlling your computer are no more legal or non-legal than you doing P2P. You have rights. Your registry keys and other info from your computer that is a "digital blueprint" is what they are after. They want to prove beyond a reasonable doubt in court when they sue you. They want to know everything about you.

I wouldnt be suprised, since Mr. Chrisopher Levy did in fact graduate from a military academy, and did in fact serve as an official appointee to Japan of the US Government, that this technology, and more importantly the database to hold P2P'rs private information, is nothing more than a GOVERNMENT HOAX to gather information on us. It makes sense.

BE CAREFUL. There is no difference between a "Reason" and an "Excuse". Mr. Headcock of ZP has many reasons and many excuses. Dont buy the **** he sells out of his mouth. He's a businessman and you are his prey. The name ZEROPAID reflects NO COST. Thats all bullshit. The price is very high.

To be continued...

Re: Beware of Zeropaid.com forums - They are a Honeypot Trap - Heres the Proof!
 

This point is very easy to explain.

1. They use vBulletin since May 2002 and before that they used an other board software - ALL people started with 0 posts after that!!!

2. They tested the board software some weeks before they opened the forum.

I hope your other points have more truth and are better researched. I don´t like zeropaid too (the reasons are personal), but I don´t want that users badmouth other websites without a reason...

I will send Chris a mail that he can reply to this thread (if he want to).

Morgwen

just naked. no truth
 

seriously this is a joke right? your kidding right?

What part of me is NAKED without TRUTH? Go to forums.es5.com and you will see all the proof you need.

Plus, look at the evidence in the URLS printed above. What more do you need?

For the last 2 days, all of the Zeropaid.com forum members ip addresses are floating around the internet because they got hacked.

Here: http://geocities.com/zerostored

Go ask METALE who is a senior Zeropaid member if her IP address isnt on that list. ZP is trying desperately to cover this up and has been erasing every thread with this link inside of it.

Lets make a simple test. I dare anybody here on this forum board to go to Zeropaid.com and do one of the 2.

1) Ask if Zeropaid.com was hacked and if the ip addresses in that link are real. Simple question, and your only asking for a simple answer.

2) Ask Zeropaid.com straight out if they are involved with DRM.

I will bet any of you that you will be BANNED from Zeropaid.com before anybody can answer you.

Exibit Number #1
http://www.streamingmedia.com/bio.asp?id=701
(Read at the last paragraph of ZP's connection to DRM)

or Christohper Hedgecocks comments:
http://www.avnonline.com/issues/200..._0403_003.shtml

Chris actually invites DRM people to his site to learn P2P users habits so that he can promote sales of DRM software. He is quoted here as telling DRM clients to flood the P2P networks with DRM media to create Pay 2 Peer networks. What happens if Gnutella gets flooded with all Pay 2 Peer ****? No more movies or music, rather all bullshit files.

So isnt it okay to question ZP about this? Or is that spam?

Dont let them tell you its OLD NEWS and that Chris is no longer with DRM. On October 8th, at 1:00 PM (See: TECHNOLOGY), Chris Hedgecock and Chris Levy (creator of DRM) are appearing together at CONTENT WORLDS convention on DRM. Thats CURRENT NEWS!

http://www.contentworld.com/confere...con_glance.html

If you ask them about their connection to DRM, you will be banned from ZP.

If you ask them if the IP addresses listed in http://geocities.com/zerostored are real, you will be banned and the thread erased.

Now ask yourself why? Those are real valid questions. If this respectable forum was questioned on similar issues, the mods would answer straight out without banning anybody. They'd probably laugh at the person who posted it. What does a P2P forum have to do with DRM?

Understand, I am not here to promote ES5 P2P software. I have respect for Gnutella, and my only purpose is to make you aware of the Zeropaid.com forums.

Please dont flame me, just look into this information for your own safety. The facts speak for themselves. BAN ZEROPAID.COM FORUMS and BAN DRM ACTIVISTS WHO WANT TO SCREW P2P NETWORKS LIKE GNUTELLA UP!

Everybody here on this forum needs to voice out against Digital Rights Management (DRM) before it is to late.

Lies
 

Naked Truth your posting is libelous and slanderous and full of lies.

I am in no way affiliated with ZeroPaid.com or it's business.

Furthermore anyone who would dare shoot without looking is to be ignored in the larger debate.

Re: Lies
 

Naked truth asked which parts aren´t truth...

please explain me this:

http://www.streamingmedia.com/bio.asp?id=701

Especially this part here:
"Levy was recently featured in the Hungry Mind's Release: "The Streaming Media Bible" and has appeared on ABCNews.com, StreamingMedia.com, ZDNet.com and has spoken at The Internext-Expo, The Streaming Media Conference, Digital Hollywood, NATPE, NAB and SXSW. Levy currently manages Business Development for ZeroPaid.com the World's Largest file sharing news portal."

As you see you are the Business Developer for zeropaid.com!!!

or this here:

http://www.streamingmedia.com/press/view.asp?id=1621

Especially this here:
"In addition, EmpireDRM’s Christopher Levy and Chris Hedgecock will be featured speakers at Internext- Expo, January 6-8, 2003, Sands Convention Expo, Las Vegas, NV. Levy and Hedgecock will lead discussions on DRM and P2P technologies as well as new media revenue opportunities for 2003. http://www.internet-expo.com"

You know that Chris Hedgecock is one of the admins of zeropaid?

So I asked you which parts aren´t true and PLEASE with proofes.

Morgwen

Veritas
 

I have not worked with ZeroPaid in over 9 months. That BIo on Streaming Media.com is old. It will be updated today.

Yes EARLIER this year Hedgecock and I spoke on a panel about DRM. So what. Many DRM and P2P experts do this. What's your point?

Again, your assumptions about some conspiracy theory are VERY weak. Very weak.

And Hedgecock is not speaking at ContentWorld either. Thats just an outright lie.

I think what you have here is a disgruntled ES5 Person who violated the ZeroPaid community and now they have a grudge and they are REALLY REALLY REACHING for straws.

Re: Veritas
 

1. I think this exuse is very lame... first you say you are in NO WAY AFFILATED with them and now you say you aren´t at the moment!!! So you worked at least 3 years for zeropaid...

2. Many P2P experts do that? None of them who I know, and SURE NONE of them which owns a P2P portal! The point is that you worked for zeropaid and DRM and nobody will believe your "we just talked story". The users will think that Chris Hedgecock is a TRAITOR!!!

P2P is a very tricky business and everybody who is supposed to speak and work with the "enemy" is dead for the community.

What was your point?

Morgwen

Veritas
 

Again your wrong. I never worked at MSN or ZeroPaid for 3 years. If you read my bio you would know this.

I met Hedge and Jorge last year during the summer and was associated with them for about 6 months. Again your Naked and your posting is full of lies.

And your wrong about P2P experts not speaking about DRM publicly or working to monetize P2P networks. Take a look at www.joltid.com They use Microsoft's DRM product and they INVENTED KAZAA. Do you have a reply to this?

You probably don't know this but the media and entertainment and adult industries are coming to P2P experts in DROVES to figure out how to monetize P2P networks.

FOR EXAMPLE: Jorge from ZeroPaid designed the DRM system that BuyMusic.com uses after he saw the DRM code from my previous company DRM Networks.

If YOU were smart you would figure out how to monetize P2P too or would you just spend the rest of your life stealing from people you don't know?

Re: Veritas
 

Who said that I want to be smart? People are stealing from others, that is life nobody can change this. And there will be traitors and nobody can change this also... so long.

Morgwen

Veritas
 

That's what I thought.

I knew that you and Naked Truth would both crumple in the face of the truth.

For me, this exchange is over.

-streamOG

Re: Veritas
 

What is truth?

Is truth what you say?

Is truth what naked truth say?

Is truth what I say?

Or is truth what the people belive?

Think about this.

Over and out.

Morgwen

Veritas
 

The truth is what is not what is said.

Re: Veritas
 

You did do work for MSN and that is where you met Chris Hedgecock over 4 years ago.

You LIE when you say you met them "Last Spring". You lie so much and then you and Chris cover everything up, contacting webmasters and telling them to take your names off of rousters.

Here is some SMALL proof that you met Chris way before "Last Spring" when both of you spoke at a convention together.

http://www.broadcast.net/pipermail/w...ay/042528.html

Go ahead and contact them as well so they can take it down. Might I add that is from MAY 22, 2002 when you spoke together.

Everybody in your industry is talking about you Chris. Shut up while you are at it.

Thank you for confirming that Jorge is also involved in DRM. He has denied it before, and now you have confirmed it.

The media networks are tired of P2P networks, and you are the one who offers them DRM solutions to "monetize" the P2P networks.

You want to infest the great P2P networks like Gnutella, ES5, and others with your DRM software so that people will spend a full day waiting for a download only to realize it includes a plugin that requires we pay for the media.

Go get your own network. Why do this to other peoples networks? Because you want to make money off of P2Pr's.

You are worst then spyware. Each DRM solution of yours makes it so the media giants whos software and movies we download include plugins that open an INBOUND / OUTBOUND port that allows you to control our home computers.

Everybody knows that the RIAA has been using your DRM technology with music and they can hack into our computers or even shut them off by just using a simple media. Until now, nobody thought it was possible. On ZP, you have everybody convinced that the recent articles about this printed all over the internet are lies.

You want as many computers as possible infected so that you have "POWER" and that programmers dont use techniques to detect and clean it off of their computers.

I know all about you Chris, I have done the research, called all of your friends, and just so you know, I am not only a war vet, but also a part time investigative journalist for the THE TORONTO TIMES.

I will say again, EVERYBODY BAN DRM, and BAN ZEROPAID.COM.

I worked at MSN?? REALLY? That's news to me. Oh and guess what I DIDN"T GO TO EAT'M. I sent Chrish because I was sick.

Again your wrong. Your lying. Accept it.

Your out of your mind.

Not only did you appear on May 22, 2002, you also appeared on May 23, 2002.

I thought you said you didnt know Chris back 18 months ago, in May 2002, so how did you send him if you were sick?

Also, I didnt say you worked at MSN, rather you worked FOR MSN on contract. Dont bullshit people with semantics and linquistics.

Here, another source from the great open web that you love to moderate. Thats right, contact the webmaster and tell him to take it down.

http://www.lasvegasmercury.com/2002/.../18786882.html

This comes from your original biography. Dont deny it, I have it on backup.

(BTW, I HAVE ON BACKUP ALL OF YOUR MATERIAL SO YOU CAN TAKE IT DOWN, AND I PUT IT RIGHT BACK UP ON USENET DISCUSSIONS!)

BTW, I love the way you changed your biography. Very interesting...

Chris, this isnt ZP, you cant moderate Gnutella. They see right through your bullshit. You thought you could "moderate" me by contacting SharePro from ES5 and now you want to do it here.

I will ruin you Chris and your teen tabloid ZP. STOP LYING!

Veritas
 

NO. again your confusing the facts. I said I have not worked with ZeroPaid in six months.

Dude your obviously off your **** or something. I never went to EAT'M. Trust me I wasn't there. I would tell you if I was. Why would I hide from that? I wouldn't.

OK one more time I have nothing to do with ZeroPaid and haven't for quite some while. You can back up my whole life story. I had it changed becuase to be honest I had forgotten about that site and that bio and it was quite old.

Put your money where your mouth is and show me your "PROOF" naked truth. Do it here for everyone to see. So far all you have done is make allegations.

Your not going to ruin anyone but yourself guy.

Kath,

it doesn´t matter if they had a fallout. Read the statements from streamOG/Chriopher Levy on es5. He is confirming that Jorge and Chris H. are working or worked with these companies, he is only argueing about details.

I ilke UTC but they should investigate before they ban a user who tries to point this out. I am investigating this at the moment and I tend to believe es5, I don´t believe the whole story BUT I SURE believe what Christopher Levy confirmed and this is enough to hate zeropaid.

Morgwen

P.S.:

Send them the link. And tell them they should read the posts especially these from Jorge, Chris H., Chris L. and sharepro. After this they can claim who is right or not.

The reality is there. You can limit this conversation, change websites that document your connections, and do whats necessary to hide your connection to ZP.

In reality Chris, you are a millionaire who made money creating DRM products that are to be used against P2Pr's.

In reality, Zeropaid.com makes NO MONEY. So why would a millionaire like yourself be involved with a P2P forum that makes no money and since P2P is against DRM, what is your agenda?

I will tell you straight out. You use the information to gather details on P2Pr's so that you can use it against us.

Also, you said that you were involved with EMPIRE DRM. You also said that you only met Chris Hedgecock "last Spring".

http://www.streamingmedia.com/press/view.asp?id=1621

Empire DRM was founded in 2001, where Chris Hedgecock and Chris Levy both were employed as President, and Exec. Vice President. All this time, both of them controlled Zeropaid.com which came into existance in 1999. So again, DRM and Zeropaid are one and the same.

We are now at the end of September 2003. Last Spring was 6 months ago. Here, explain how both YOU and EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF EMPIRE DRM, MR. CHRISTOPHER HEDGECOCK - the "owner" of Zeropaid.com, together owned EMPIRE DRM back in January 2, 2003. That was 6 monts prior to last Spring! That article was printed after both of you had an established company called EMPIRE DRM, so dont have us all believe you met the same day they wrote the article.

So again, I point out that you know Chris Hedgecock from several years ago, and you casually deny being at 2 different gatherings that your name clearly appears on (which are posted on 2 different websites)

Now, go to EMPIRE DRM or STREAMING VIDEO website and get your name out of their as well. Clean up your tracks buddy.

Wait...Before you go, remember one thing. I am not going to run after you. I am going directly to your clients and I am going to cause you holy hell. Your a disgrace and have no place in our P2P community.

Don´t shoot over the target. Stay cool and try to discuss mature, I mean with proofs and not with such a bulls*it.

Morgwen

keep track of your lies :rolleyes:

Great work Naked Truth! :)

Veritas
 

Naked Truth,

I don't know you or what your about but I want to make it perfectly clear to everyone here that your character assasination of me will not stand the test of time.

Now that I have completed a 10 hour day consulting with customer about P2P issues via http://www.PeerProfit.com and DRM issues via http://www.buydrm.com I thought it might make sense to provide this audience with indisputable proof your a liar.


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"In reality Chris, you are a millionaire who made money creating DRM products that are to be used against P2Pr's."

This is a lie. I am not a millionaire. Where did you get this info? How did you come to this conclusion. Where in your mind did you come to the conclusion I have made millions in DRM?



"In reality, Zeropaid.com makes NO MONEY. So why would a millionaire like yourself be involved with a P2P forum that makes no money and since P2P is against DRM, what is your agenda?"

This is also a lie. ZeroPaid is supported soley by ad revenue and now T Shirt sales. This is fact. P2P and DRM are inherently connected which should be obvious to you but your just so busy being negative about people you don't like that your blind to the facts.


"I will tell you straight out. You use the information to gather details on P2Pr's so that you can use it against us."

Again a lie. ClearKey does not share their data with ZeroPaid and is owned by a completely differnet set of shareholders. WHy would they endanger being sued out of existence to do this? How much money do you really think they could make doing this when the RIAA already has 5 companies working for them on this?
Are you telling me you think I sell my customer's data to third parties?


"Empire DRM was founded in 2001, where Chris Hedgecock and Chris Levy both were employed as President, and Exec. Vice President. All this time, both of them controlled Zeropaid.com which came into existance in 1999. So again, DRM and Zeropaid are one and the same.
"

Again a mistake on a website which led you to jump to conclusions. EmpireDRM was formed in October of 2002. That is fact. Proof here:

http://kepler.ss.ca.gov/corpdata/Sho...umber=C2470236

The company was incorporated as NFA Group Inc with a dba in the San Diego. Proof here:

http://arcc.co.san-diego.ca.us/servi...dSearch=Search

"We are now at the end of September 2003. Last Spring was 6 months ago. Here, explain how both YOU and EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF EMPIRE DRM, MR. CHRISTOPHER HEDGECOCK - the "owner" of Zeropaid.com, together owned EMPIRE DRM back in January 2, 2003. That was 6 monts prior to last Spring! That article was printed after both of you had an established company called EMPIRE DRM, so dont have us all believe you met the same day they wrote the article. "

Not sure I am following you here. Can you please simplify this question?

"So again, I point out that you know Chris Hedgecock from several years ago, and you casually deny being at 2 different gatherings that your name clearly appears on (which are posted on 2 different websites)"

Again an outright lie supported to the contrary by probably 30+ people here in San Diego. Please provide proof here and now. Better yet why don't you ask Chrish or Jorge yourself? This point is moot your just wrong.

"Now, go to EMPIRE DRM or STREAMING VIDEO website and get your name out of their as well. Clean up your tracks buddy. "

WOW. Again something your saying at your keyboard and not in person. I asked StreamingMedia.com and ContentWorld to update their sites to reflect the correct information. Why don't you come to ContentWorld and see if Chrish shows up? I will be there and I promise you he won't be there.

http://www.buydrm.com and there is a link to the conference information.

"Wait...Before you go, remember one thing. I am not going to run after you. I am going directly to your clients and I am going to cause you holy hell. Your a disgrace and have no place in our P2P community."

I am not going anywhere. Again where did you come to the conclusion I am moving away from you in this conversation? Yes please contact my clients. I would enjoy that.

Are you threatening me Naked Truth?

Other than crossing the line many times before now your starting to humor me.

How can you a lowly thief and stranger to me say things like that publicly?

I think your fear is getting the best of you.

One more thing it's a community and one alone cannot speak for all. I am here and ready to speak openly and capable of responding.

Regards,

Christopher

Christopher Levy
CEO and Founder
BuyDRM / PeerProfit
[e] clevy@nfagroup.com

So your not a millionaire? Your full of ****

This is from your website before you changed the biography.

You didnt contract for MSN? Bullshit.

http://www.streamingmedia.com/bio.asp?id=701

Hey look at that. Last sentence...You said earlier that you didnt attend the EAT'M conference! This is from your updated biography. Ahh...Geez Captain, what happened? Your fingers overwrite the keyboard?

I told you that I have everything on backup. Go ahead, make the changes while you have time. I'm here and waiting.

Hey everybody, go to http://forums.es5.com and see what SharePro posted. He has now proven beyond any reasonable thought and doubt that Chris Levy is a phony.

BITCH
 

Your making assumptions and attacking me without reason. I have been a millionaire many times over but not right now.

Your wrong. Just accept this ok? Would you like to come with me to my bank? Come on let's go there guy.

I said I never worked for MSN. Providing them services for the Madonna Webcast and working there are different things. Again I think your having a dictionary problem like your friend HoeShare or whatever his Pro name is. I know he's a pro bitch for sure.

I love the fact your backing up my life in your hard drive. Completely supports my arguement for why DRM can and will suceed ....BITCH.

Let me guess you guys aren't from around here are you? Is english a language you do business in? I hope not.

Regards,

streamOG

Re: BITCH
 

So now we resort to Racism? Okay, end of direct conversation with you Chris. I'll print my material, and include this inside of it.

Thank you for your comments. You answered most things that I wanted to know anyway, and totally contradicted the other Chris from ZP, which shows that both of you are liars.

Best Regards and as sharepro pointed out - say hello to "T-Shirt Girl" for us.

Veritas
 

nope just asking because your obviously having problems with the English language and wanted to help.

T shirt girl? Will do. Had lunch with her today. Her best friend is over here right now. Anything you want me to tell her?

How about you?

Naked Truth finally found a site willing to give him love. How many sites do you have to spam in your attempt to discredit ZP? The DRM thing came out @ a year ago, thanks for breaking that big story. LOL. Keep trying though, these guys will get sick of it too.

Sorry, I didn't bother to read your post this time. Did you bring up the selling IP's bunk again? LOL

Hi Morgwen, it's great to see you again. Even if you're coming across as being a little bitter.

Veritas
 

******rick you dumbass what is up. Aren't you too busy helping Jorge with the hate posts to be here?

Cheap Prick, you are one of the few who know who I am, but I doubt you remember from my other alias. Dont get involved in this, cause this guy Chris Levy already confirmed that Jorge is working with DRM in this post and also confirms that Chris Hedgecock also CURRENTLY owns part of EMPIRE DRM.

DIGITAL RIGHTS MANAGEMENT IS BAD FOR P2P. They are playing you for a fool Cheap Prick.

I know you long before you became a mod at ZP. I have respect for you, so lets not go there.

Go to ES5 Forums and take a look at how Chris Levy just got caught in a million lies and how everybody laughed at him. Read the posts before you answer me.

I already read them. He makes no better a spokesman than I would.

Some of the stuff you've posted at various sites was complete fabrication though. You know ZP doesn't "sell IP's", nor would there be a legitimate market for them. Even with the RIAA. You've seen from experience that nothing of a nature possible to incriminate a member is allowed to stand. It's removed and the member is usually pm'ed as to why that sort of post is not allowed.

The "ZP was hacked" is no stronger an argument. I could link a pic in my sig here and tell you every person who looked at one of my posts. Not to mention that if ZP was hacked, who the hell is going to jump up and down and say "hey it was me?" Nobody, because it's an embarrassment to try to kill off any other factor that is trying to further p2p. Some people associated with ES5 feel that ZP has tried to harm them, but as I know that you've probably read most of ZP's ES5 threads, you already know that it is our membership in general that got tired of the constant promotion. The mods as a general rule attempt to just keep people from openly flaming each other. So as a result, many ES5 announcements were simply closed rather than see people go 20 rounds again. Closed, not removed, so interested members could still see any improvements that ES5 had made.

"ZP is connected to DRM". Definitely your best argument, and the only one based in fact. I can think of few people in p2p that didn't read all about that around a year ago. However, since that time Chris Hedgecock has left the DRM firm he was a force at, and has become involved in another e-based business that monitors people's website for them. You've seen the link on the ZP homepage. You're argument for that has thus far been that company is hired by the DRM company that Chris left to keep tabs on the former company's site. That part of the argument is weak, as most people wouldn't care if they monitored the FBI's site to make sure it was still up and properly working.

Now, this "Jorge is connected to DRM" is potentially more disturbing to me. I've seen the same guy post it a couple of times now. As you pointed out. However he is the only person I've ever seen make reference to the idea. Jorge says he doesn't, and given the fact that he is the one that has been involved in p2p for years holds more weight for me. At the end of the day though, I couldn't really care if my mother was involved in DRM. I will get the files I want, and luckily I don't center on the porn industry, which seems to be the only group currently using the brand of DRM that Chris Hedgecock's former company dealt in. Believe it or not, I don't care if people try to copy-protect their stuff, the chase is half the game to me. They have as much right to attempt to protect it as I have to take it, don't they?

"ZP has no app of their own." Exactly. That is what allows the mods and members to feel that any app can be discussed. We have no affiliation to any program, and every app is treated equally. You really have been flogging a dead horse. ZP's "anti-fan-boy" rules have been in effect for quite awhile, long before ES5 hit the scene. Ironically, it was Shareaza that had many users removed from ZP for excessive advertisement. If you look though, you can see that Shareaza is still a widely respected app on our board. Why? They have been letting the program do the talking.


I don't know what time you have, but it's late here. We can butt heads tomorrow if you choose.
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It really is nice to see you Morgwen. Your weekly slug-fests with Seph were probably more enjoyable for the rest of us than for either of you, but I gained a deep respect for both of you two's love of Gnutella. I haven't tried shareaza for about 2 months though, partly due to your improvements. Getting files at a million miles per hour frustrated me too much when the sources all turned to e-mule and dropped to @ 2kb/s.

That feature can be turned off no?

Veritas
 

"The "ZP was hacked" is no stronger an argument. I could link a pic in my sig here and tell you every person who looked at one of my posts. Not to mention that if ZP was hacked, who the hell is going to jump up and down and say "hey it was me?" Nobody, because it's an embarrassment to try to kill off any other factor that is trying to further p2p. Some people associated with ES5 feel that ZP has tried to harm them, but as I know that you've probably read most of ZP's ES5 threads, you already know that it is our membership in general that got tired of the constant promotion. The mods as a general rule attempt to just keep people from openly flaming each other. So as a result, many ES5 announcements were simply closed rather than see people go 20 rounds again. Closed, not removed, so interested members could still see any improvements that ES5 had made."


Um Hey ******rick ZP was hacked....many times. This is fact. I know because I sat at Chrish's house while he tried to get the server back up and watched him and Jorge bicker on the cell. That's fact.



"ZP is connected to DRM". Definitely your best argument, and the only one based in fact. I can think of few people in p2p that didn't read all about that around a year ago. However, since that time Chris Hedgecock has left the DRM firm he was a force at, and has become involved in another e-based business that monitors people's website for them. You've seen the link on the ZP homepage. You're argument for that has thus far been that company is hired by the DRM company that Chris left to keep tabs on the former company's site. That part of the argument is weak, as most people wouldn't care if they monitored the FBI's site to make sure it was still up and properly working. "


Yes Jorge, Who is the founder of ZP designs DRM systems as the lead developer at ClearKey Solutions where he developed a DRM system for BuyMusic.com ....also Fact.


"Now, this "Jorge is connected to DRM" is potentially more disturbing to me. I've seen the same guy post it a couple of times now. As you pointed out. However he is the only person I've ever seen make reference to the idea. Jorge says he doesn't, and given the fact that he is the one that has been involved in p2p for years holds more weight for me. At the end of the day though, I couldn't really care if my mother was involved in DRM. I will get the files I want, and luckily I don't center on the porn industry, which seems to be the only group currently using the brand of DRM that Chris Hedgecock's former company dealt in. Believe it or not, I don't care if people try to copy-protect their stuff, the chase is half the game to me. They have as much right to attempt to protect it as I have to take it, don't they?"

Yes Jorge, Who is the founder of ZP designs DRM systems as the lead developer at ClearKey Solutions where he developed a DRM system for BuyMusic.com ....also Fact.

NOT TRUE. ANOTHER LIE FROM JORGE. Their Customers are company's like EMI Music and BuyMusic and The Recording Pool and who know's who else. Those are music companies. They actually got OUT of the porn business.

First you say your not with ZP, then you say Chris Hedgecock slept with your g-friend and now you say you are with ZP and you refer to them as your members.

God, dont you even keep track of your own lies? Zeropaid.com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (note: zerropaid edit the wiki listing as it suits them from day to day or week to week as it suits them. Their 'paid' staff also edit other wiki pages as it suits them.)

I'm sorry but Sharepro asked me not to reply anymore until further notice.

I misread your statement and confused SP. Anyways we can be on ES5 and have the conversation there.

Online investment no scam satisfaction proof
 

New payout from Program issued via DRM. Paid is legit.



Edit by Forum Moderator team after the above member was banned: Other DRM info see Risk Your PC's Health for a Song? | PCWorld, which helps to explain why DRM is often full of virus and trojans. DRM represents rental of the artistic item for 6-12 months and a limited number of plays as the DRM license specifies. It does not mean you own the copy, unlike the earlier vinyl records or cassette-tapes or earlier CD's! Such DRM might also restrict you to only playing such media on your computer only with a specific ID and not playable after copying to CD or other computers or storage media.

... Rent a song (with specified period and number of play restrictions as mentioned)? Does that appeal to you?

Did we reach 50 plays of the song already or is it a year already, is that why we can no longer play it? . What did I pay for? :mad2:

( Buying music online (or video) which has DRM incorporated has its major drawbacks! You need to find out which online sale sites incorporate DRM and those that do not. Otherwise your use of such media files will be extremely limited.)