so, Is LimeW legal?
 

as in, can I get in trouble for using it? for having it on my system? :confused:

No - unless you happen to live in China...

so, your saying its not illegal? I cant get in trouble? or I can? just want to be clear. :)

I guess it also depends on what files your sharing.... also. ?

You can't get in trouble for running LimeWire. You can get in trouble for sharing copyrighted music.
Depending on where you live, copyright laws may differ. What is copyrighted in one country can be public domain in another.

In some countries the download is also illegal.

Morgwen

Limewire is NOT illegal.
Downloading in my opinion, is not illegal.

Filesharing and uploading are techically illegal. This is what 99% of all the RIAA lawsuits have been about.

What counts is the law and not your opinion... :rolleyes:

Morgwen

Maybe in Germany.
Ever been to the United States, where peoples opinions and indiviualism are respected and not stomped down like where you live.

Never heard bigger bullshit... you are living in the past 60 years ago... have you ever been here? :rolleyes:

the USA is actually kicking your rights in the ***, nobody is asking about "individualism". The USA sued hundreds/thousands of people for sharing illegal files, actually I didn´t hear that anybody is sued here.

I don´t want to mention the anti terror laws, maybe you know how freedom is spelled but you are loosing every day more of it.

I repeat:

Perhaps you should look at your law...

Morgwen

U.S.A laws, :D :D :D , never seen such a retarded system of justice, except maybe in China;) (not true but you get the idea) In USA money = winning cases which is not the what happens in more evolved countries such as Germany, France, Canada (Québec) etc... Some of you United Statians should see the world a little more, not only on CNN in stupid wars.

But you are not all like that, have a good day to the open Americans.

That is not true.

(It's 1 am here, I'm tired. I won't go any further on that unless someone asks me to).

Ivan
In the dark we make a brighter light

This also happens in the USA, an example:

During the desert storm the Army used new ammunition with uran which was radioactive, many soldiers died after this... will you tell me that the goverment didn´t know it?

and I know more.

USA is not the best democracy in the world... not France, Germany etc I think where is no domocratic country where no sh*t happens, so we shouldn´t discuss here which goverment is doing the bigger sh*t.

As in every other democratic country in the world, the USA is nothing special.

Morgwen

Speaking of filesharing the German record label Bertelsmann or whatever created NAPSTER.

Hey, isn't NAPSTER what started the filesharing lawsuits in the first place? Thanks alot.

If france wants to talk, lets talk about france losing every war they've been

The only ones that have been sued are single parents w/children, 14 yrs olds, poor people (minorities,trailor people,etc) and people who too dumb to operate a firewall.

1) Napster was written by Shawn Fanning, a boy from California USA. Bertelsmann bought the label "Napster" when the comapany Napster was already bankrupt and the current owner is Roxio (California USA).

2) Firewalls? LOL

Tu es vraiment un imbécile! I'm not French nor do I live in France. Now, I'd bet anything that both France and I would kick your southern ***....

:rolleyes:
Edit: Wow I've wasted my 500th post with something like that:(

No, the RIAA which is based in the USA... why should a GERMAN company start lawsuits in AMERICA and not in GERMANY???

The GERMAN goverment changed the law recently under the pressure of the RIAA... yes thanks a lot. :rolleyes:

Before you claim your (half) wisdom you should inform you instead of writing such bullshit.

:confused:

I remember that they have won some wars... and I also remember that the SOUTH only fought ONE war which they LOST... btw without France you would hail to a queen and wouldn´t vote for a president...

I see your abilities aren´t history, laws and business. Why don´t you tell us anything about what you know?

Morgwen

Please? I've never heard of anywhere that LimeWire is illegal, so I'd like to know where I can find out more. I can't understand Spanish/Portuguese well enough to Google for info. [dos mas cervesas por favor is about my limit].

btw--no flamebait--just honest idle curiousity.

Sorry.... I was very tired indeed. I read "limewire is not legal" :rolleyes:

(El que debería aflojar con las cervezas soy yo)

BTW.... why Spanish/Portuguese?

Ivan
In the dark we make a brighter light

LOL--I'd only remembered you were in a large country in South America, and somehow was thinking of Brazil; thus the mention of Portuguese. I can't even blame it on the booze! Sorry.
Systrans just doesn't do your sentence justice!

Buenos Aires is the capital city of Argentina!

Mogwen

The location part of my profile is fake, people.
I don't live in a dorm, chicken littles.

Doesn´t matter Peerless will find you in Dallas. :D

Morgwen

Thanks Morgwen :)

Ivan
In the dark we make a brighter light

good luck.

Oh, this thread has gotten off topic.

Limewire is not illegal and haven't heard anywhere that it isn't.
I agree with stief.

downloading maybe illegal, but that hasn't stopped anybody.
:)

This is exatly what we said before you told us your opinion...

There are people who care about laws, OK not many but I heard such people exist. ;)

Morgwen

To make it short: LimeWire is not only NOT illegal: It is completely LEGAL.

Try downloading "das klein wild vögelein". You won't get in any trouble for that, also not for sharing it, and that is true in almost every country of the world (except maybe countries, where music and fun are prohibited, like the extraterritorial shoe factories in some poor countries), since the song comes from the dark times of the middle ages, where you could get hanged for singing songs, which were clearly against any government, rich people or the church.
Its license allows you to share it, give it to whomever you want, etc.

So as long as you don't do anything illegal with LimeWire it is LEGAL to use it.

Same as with a fork: You are allowed to eat with it, comb your hair, even dig in the garden (I hope noone invented a law against that in the USA... j/k), but you may not scratch the window of your neighbors car or stick it down his throat, when you're angry.

LimeWire is a tool. It is you who decides how to use it (As is the internet, by the way and trying to coerce someone to commit suicide through a forum is also illegal).

The main threat that will expose users to risks when sharing copyrighted materials is the inclusion of DRM technologies within almost all tools allowing you to make copies for private use.

I have already suspiscion with various MP3 encoders (notably the iTunes encoder under licence of Fraunhofer/Thomson Multimedia). Don't forget that Fraunhofer&Thomon have already demonstrated the interest of the new MP3+DRM format that will be fully compatible with the MP3 format.

Apple, Microsoft and RealNetworks have already accepted this format. And they will integrate it officially at end of year. The users won't know whever the MP3 they create will be DRM protected. Already, you need to sign a licence and authorize the software to include cookies that will be recorded in the databases of these providers, made available to their advertizing partners but also to legal injuctions, or simply to any paries that claim a "public interest" to disclose these records.

Read the licence of iTunes for example. You'll learn lots of things on what Apple is allowed to do with your private data (your identity). Similar featured terms are in Windows Media and RealOne Player.

In a near future, the best tool to create MP3s could become dedicated hardwares built by Asian OEM manufacturers, if they can be imported, because you won't need to register and sign a licence to buy and use these appliances.

The end of year will be hot. I fear that lots of things will change in a very near future. This may explain why now lots of commercial services have started to be finally deployed to sell legal downloadable music on the Internet: these services now are confident that DRM will work and protect their investment.

Already CDDB has tracking features to help localte users that first share a copyrighted material, or to track illegal importators of zoned products. Read the user licence for the CDDB client embedded into your favorite player. FreeDb is a replacement, but FreeDb will not be supported by almost all commercial and popular products, unless there's a defence organized to create alternative formats, and a market organized to allow choosing products without DRM features.

Note that I'm not opposed to the principles of DRM, if this is used reasonnably to lower the cost of acquisition of legal products, and if there's a way to buy a freely redistributable copy of a copyrighted material.
Also we could campaign to have limited time for these copyrights. After which the licence could become free.
Providers or copyrighted materials must learn to trust their customers to keep them. Too many products are sold at too much high prices. And shamely the current concentration of producers into large "majors" will not help defend the public interest, unless the anti-trust laws are applied to keep a concurrential market.
Giants like Universal, AOL/TimeWarner, Disney, Microsoft, Sony an EMI are getting too strong. They are building anti-concurrential strategies of practices.
And artists are in danger: these companies are firing lots of artists around the world and are invading the place normaly reserved to distributors (radios, TVs, ...) which traditionnally were independant when choosing the content they want to braodcast to their auditors.
This means much less choice for the consumer... So file sharing must be kept legal to allow independant artists and producers to get an audience face to the big ones$$$.

so as long as i have my firewall up i cant get caught? SWEET!

You can hope so.
But you also won't get very good downloads, because you can#t download from other firewalled users.

get peerguardian... that should lower your chances also...

This should make all other Canadian P2P users happy:

A Canadian judge ruled that file sharing has had no effect to the record industry, so now file sharing is perfectly legal in Canada, no matter how many you share. 1 or 100,000, it's fine here.

oops--not quite: see http://www.canfli.org/modules.php?op...q=yes&id_cat=2

Justice Konrad von Finckenstein's ruling was reassuring, but IS currently being appealed.

(don't you wish Sask could get some sun back ;) )