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Sgt July 22nd, 2006 06:25 PM

Oh nearly forgot
 
Oh nearly forgot there

just thought of this It's not really a music file (I Know, this is cryptic, but goto be careful, can't give the the first files complete name, but, If U look for a file with ORKL in the title.

?????


Sgt

arne_bab July 23rd, 2006 01:33 AM

How comes, you run code in Linux?

Would really interest me, how you manage that (and with which user-rights).

foolofthehill July 23rd, 2006 04:08 AM

Nonsense Sgt.!!
If you really wanted to let us know, you would have gone to an internet cafe, logged in with a new psydo and would have posted it. Or you would have posted with a socket5 proxy to make sure you stay anonym. Or used the PM function telling some of the developers secretly;.......since they are the ones who have to prevent things that happened with the other clients, as you've mentioned....
But you put it the way that anyone would have to think you're about to blow the cover of a CIA agent.........gimmy a break, okay!!

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Hyper-kun July 23rd, 2006 07:19 AM

I believe Gunsou err Sgt. is just a joker. We all know that filenames are rather irrelevant. You can't tell from the filename whether a file is good or evil. Though there's still some spam that's easy to recognize by simply looking at the filename. I guess that's called overkill. Even the stupider users recognize these files by now. The trick has been overused, people are more cautious and Gnutella clients have rudimentary spam filters which catches most of the simple spam anyway. It would be fairly idiotic to mark dangerous files.

Anyway, your advice, foolofthehill, to use a proxy or whatever isn't really clever. If someone has signed a NDA - which is fairly normal nowadays in many business areas and IT anyway. By saying too much one could easily expose his identity. Not to you, but to those who he is or was working for. Many business contracts nowadays have a clause that says you're not allowed to work for a business in the same area for a couple months. And of course you're not supposed to tell your next boss the trade secrets of you learned at the other business. Telling these to the public is several degrees worse of course. That has little to do with being an "secret agent" or whatever. Of course, for some people it's pretty hard to keep a secret. It's well-known that stupid hackers expose themselves and get caught this way.

Rest assured those who work against Gnutella skim through these forums too.

Further, sometimes people ridicule a topic so that it isn't taken seriously anymore. I doubt that businesses already "attack" Linux users but it might be time to get started. "file permissions" and "user privileges" are not a huge obstacle when it comes to Joe Average. The only real obstacle is that Linux is not as stream-lined as Windows and any known exploit will only work for a small portion of all Linux installations. That said, there was Mac version of the SonyBMG rootkit too and now that Apple switched to the x86, everybody predicts a huge increase in exploits for Macs simply because it's less work and x86 has some inherent flaws that make it easier exploitable than other architectures like PPC or SPARC etc.

Sgt July 23rd, 2006 07:31 AM

Hi Hyper-kun
 
Hi Hyper-kun

And you also know that to access the internet You have to go through an Isp

Which can and does, in some countries keep records of your internet activities

In the UK Their trying to make it A law that they have to hand over these records if requested by the police.

that's how their now starting to catch some of the kiddie porn freaks over here

So proxies as you know are usless

Internet cafes, smile your on camera, they also log everything you do and access, like your own computer does

Sgt

foolofthehill July 23rd, 2006 07:53 AM

I'm pretty much aware about such contracts, which I had once signed myself. However, Sgt. posted his comment in a way like "they're about to bring you <gnutella> down, one way or the other".......
If his post was meant to be helpful (in a preventing way), he would be able to find means and ways to hint into the right direction without exposing himself to the public, or his former employer.
But not doing so, or excusing himself not to do so, leaves me with 2 alternatives to think.........the first one has been implied by LOTR and the second one would be to assume that he wants to spread (intentionally) a certain kind of unease around the Gnutella network......

@Sgt.
Don't take my opinion as an offense,......rather think about how your comments are understood from people who might not be that deep into the matter as you stated to be (or were).
I don't even want to know what's going on behind certain doors in regard to P2P, my life is already exciting enough; but it will come down to how you see the approaches of certain groups (of which you say you have knowledge of), and to the conclusion you draw from this knowledge (in an ethical way).
And let me tell you, being a German, I have learned not to accept every and all because of laws and rules.........(which is actually your excuse,....)

Just my 5-cent-worth
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Sgt July 23rd, 2006 08:29 AM

foolofthehill
 
Hi foolofthehill
No offence taken just looked back and seen what I had written

I did not mean to Imply that this forum was under attack, what I was supposed to have said, the record companies and Film companies are going after the people that use the P2P networks

U download a certain song or a film, you go to play this song or film

Ur computer will slow down for about 10-20 sec while certain files are being written in the background because of the code written into the song or the film

The first file that will be written has ORKL in it's title, (that's not it's full name)look for the file on your hard drive

the computer will then be checked for any P2P programs and the like

the program written to your computer, will then try and access the internet

this information will then be transmitted to the company I used to work for

that way they get an Idea of what networks they can flood with fakes

also sent at the time is the Ip address of your computer

That way they can tell who you are

I think you also asked which firewall I use on my gaurd computer that accesses the internet, I use Zone Alarm Security Suit, where all the programs have to ask for access to the internet (Don't know why you were intersted in that) :)

Sgt

foolofthehill July 23rd, 2006 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt
I think you also asked which firewall I use on my gaurd computer that accesses the internet, I use Zone Alarm Security Suit, where all the programs have to ask for access to the internet (Don't know why you were intersted in that) :)

Sgt

You mean in the other thread where you had problems to access the forum...?
Well, that was just a thought that port 80 or HTTP might have been listed into the access block list, at a time I had by myself the same problem with other forums......; I then added whatever possible and connected to those forums to my exception list, but didn't change anything....

Two month long no problem at all, and since yesterday I have to use F5 to get access to the Vietnamese Forum I'm in.....

Thanks anyway for giving some more clearance about your comment; appreciate it....
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Sgt July 23rd, 2006 09:03 AM

hi foolofthehill

Aha so now I remember, why u asked that

:) :)

Sgt

Hi all
:)

I just remembered somebody also asked me about any other security programs I could recommend

The one I Like to use is peergaurdian 2 or pg2 for short

I like to use that when using networks Like P2P

:) :)


Sgt

Sgt July 23rd, 2006 02:04 PM

Strange
 
Hi

Talking of Pg2, I can't get onto the forum and get the Dns error page In IE
and the can't connect to server In firefox

If I use block htttp

This comes up a lot
PSI Fakes PHOTOBKT Split 3.118.213.480, 62.65.118.155:1292

when i checked out the Ip
I was taken to this page
http://fpad.filefront.com/?http://www.filefront.com/

:confused:

Sgt


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