Any thoughts anyone? Only it's starting to feel as though this whole P2P thing just ain't a hapenning.

If only Kazzaa was available for us Mac users.

Kazaa is also P2P. :rolleyes:

Kazaa and its spyware its the biggest bullshit which exist. The official number one is now the Donkey network. there is also a Mac version:

http://www.edonkey2000.com/downloads.php

But be patient, the donkey netwrok is mainly for bigger files like videos and games. So its needs a little longer to start with a download but after a while the donkey is running like a horse.

Morgwen

Many thanks for that. I've been reading about eDonkey but didn't think there was a Mac version.

I'll give it a spin and see if it's any better than Limewire...

Well, I've installed the Donkey software and am trying to download a 700Mb file over my 512Mbs broadband DSL connection.

Now I'm now expert by any means, and I'm sure that this is down to some kind of sharing of bandwidth (or something) but why am I only receiving data at 2-4 Mbs when my connection is 512? I appreciate that data won't get to my machine at the full 512 speed, but for it to be at just 1/100th of my broadband connection speed? That IS slow.

If I had a 1Mbs line I guess it wouldn't make anything quicker (in the P2P arena) would it? Like I say, I'm no expert so please feel free to educate rather than berate me on this one.

Thanks

I said you should be patient.

Did you read the faq? There are many ways to increase the donwload success.

Morgwen

I hearya, but while I'm prepared to be patient, I've been 'downloading' this file for over 24 hours and it's curently at 8.62%.

Patience does kinda have a limit.

I read somewhere that to download a film takes less time than it takes to watch it...

I don´t know where you read this, but its really a good joke...

A film needs between 3 - 14 days. If you are really lucky, you can download it in one or two days but this is not normal.

look in the faq set up your donkey...

btw do you think you would be able to download a movie from Kazaa? Kazaaa is only good for music I didn´t manage to download a whole movie, the main reason is because there are no.

But you can choose which program you like more.

You have still the possibility to buy the video if you are to impatient. There is no P2P program which can offer every time a video download within 24 hours or less.

Morgwen

Well in that case, like the man in his orthopaedic shoes, I stand corrected.

So why is hollywood so worried then? Are there really that many people who are prepared to wait up to two weeks for a film to downlaod?

Will this get quicker with faster broadband connections or is the speed down to the structure of P2P networks?

I'll stick with DVDs and the oddd trip to the cinema. For now anyway.

Of course there are patient people who wait. Many people don´t download just one film they try to get several movies at the same time, I finish every one or two days a film or a game.

P2P is P2P, if you are lucky you can download faster but its not sure.

In a free world everybody can choose...

Morgwen

We shall see.

There is a file which is now downloading a lot quicker, but looking at the details on the sources that it's coming from, it could well be in French!

I'm all new to this, so it'll be interesting to see how it goes.

Thanks for your advice & guidence,

If you didn´t read it already:

http://www.edonkey2000.com/documenta...aq_faster.html

You should set the max connetions to 200 (or more depends on your OS and your line). The more connections you can use the faster the download will be. You should also increase the number of max sources to 200 (or more depends on your OS and line), the more sources you have the higher is the chance of getting a free slot - this increases the speed.

This was the short guide. ;)

Morgwen

Well, that big file I mentioned is 92.68% downloaded, but I'm a bit baffled by all the jargon in the eDonkey help pages.

Perhaps you can help - you seem both a knowledgeable and helpful kinda person.

1) I do not have the green eDonkey icon at the top of my screen. Does this mean that my access to the network(s) is somehow restricted? Is this a Mac thing (I did notice that the Mac version is still a Beta)?

2) I'm currently 'unreachable'. Having checked all the stuff in the section on the site about making myself 'reachable' I'm non the wiser. I have single machine here at home using an Airport Extreme and an Ethernet ADSL modem. I have never come across any firewall settings either in my Mac (running OS X 10.2.8) or in the modem/router configuration. I have checked my speed using BandwithPlace. This gives me a speed of 320.6. I've tried changing the port to 80 as suggested, but this has had no effect.

Thanks

Your modem may well use nat or similar. Nat restricts most incoming ports. NAT stands for network address translation, a system which lets you share an Internet connection among many computers while allowing for unique IP addresses for each computer. Many DSL and Cable modem switches use NAT. Apple's Airport uses NAT. If you're using a switch box to share your internet connection with many computers or are accessing the internet via a wireless connection, you may be using NAT and will not be able to share files. At least with modems/routers you can use port forwarding which opens up ports for particular purposes usch as gaming, video conferencing, p2p use, etc.

Lord of The Rings,

Thanks for your reply.

I am using both Airport and a ADSL Ethernet modem/router, but I am able to 'share' files.

I've been using Limewire but got fed up with it and have started to try out eDonkey. I'm able to download files and it looks as though I'm uploading them too (while they are downloading) it's just that the status bar on my eDonkey screen ssays that I'm unreachable.

Does this NAT thing mean that I'll not be able to increase my download speeds (currently about 3 kbps against an upload of about 29 kbps)?

I'm a wee bit baffled. This eDonkey thing although it may be a far wider network, seems to require a great deal more individual machine by machine tweaking (and therefore technie know how)...

I haven't tried eDonkey as of yet. You could try an eDonkey specific forum such as here: http://www.p2pconsortium.ipbhost.com...p?showforum=42 If you can speak German you can go here: http://www.emule-web.de/board/archiv...et_kdrive.html :D

Thanks for that I shall post away in that forum.

Cheers

Not a greatly visited forum - the last (and only visible) post was almost two weeks ago and nobody has replied to that!

Does eDonkey use the Gnutella network, or is it a network in it's own right? I'm really starting to show my ignorance here aren't I?

My apologies. Try this forum. This is directly linked from eDonkey: http://forum.edonkey.com/

eDonkey doesn't use Gnutella, it has a network of it's own. In fact, it has a second one I think, and eMule has another one as well. Am I correct?

Ivan
In the dark we make a brighter light

eDonkey is connecting to the donkey network, eMule is connecting to the donkey network and has created a new net called kadmelia. The eDonkey developers also created an own network Overnet which you can reach with the so called client, Overnet is also able to connect to the donkey net.

Morgwen

Sorry but I am using eMule, I suggested you eDonkey because I don´t know if there is a eMule Mac version. The best is to ask the eDonkey experts in their forum... and don´t forget us visit us again. ;)

Morgwen

Morgwen,

Many thanks for your help.

I have posted a note in the eDonkey forum. No reply as yet, but as you say - patience is a virtue...