DreaMule? Anyone tried it?
 

I have recently been looking for software that I can get some harder to find music. I was gonna try eMule, but I've been told its confusing & slow.

But I found DreaMule which apparently is a lot faster and does not have LowID problems. It also has many feature's including automatic server, so I don't have to get one myself. And that's good cause I don't how that works.

Its been givin some really good reviews
DreaMule - P2P to extreme
DreaMule - Free software downloads and reviews - CNET Download.com
DreaMule - Download

Looks like worth trying out. Seems to have its own network, therefore a little limited (website sez "5 million users worldwide"). But reviews say that whatever is there can be dl'd very fast.

I waited months for LW to dl a movie from 1967 and another from '41. I switched to Vuze and got both movies the same day. If you want obscure stuff torrent downloading is the way to go.

Never heard of it, but it has it's own network so it might be worth trying. Who knows it could be better than limewire sometime in the future... :cantseeyou:

I tried it, Fantastic results but the downloads wouldn't start downloading. Is it a Mule thing?

So I'm still using it, And I just wish it was faster. I might go back to Guntella.

You know DreaMule is a eD2k client,and to use them ,you have to have good time.....I use the real eDonkey2000 client on network,its working ok!
I belive the problem is the new servers and the RIAA/MPAA -they try to destroy the entire network,but the Donkey/Mule refuse to die...But that network makes Gnutella like peanuts in compare!Nearly all previouse Kazaa user ended up there...On a good day i have acess to nearly 30 million files,not bad!Small files goes usely in seconds,larger files take longer time-i love the eDonkey2000 BitTorrent support-working great!Shareaza is support eD2k network too,but i never get enny files at all!!!But for the good old Donkey is thumb up!:xeri_ok1ani:But to use that network i will advise to use Peer Guardian with good block list,els you are the DOD on the network...The RIAA/MPAA goons try all the time to make me DOD for them with out i even know it,sorry i do know they trying all the time!

I only download Music so I'm good with Guntella, Mule had a great selection of files but I was getting a max of 25kb's, On Ares I get around 40kb's and on Mp3 Rocket I get 70kb's.

Thats cool,i usely download music,and my friends call me "TunaHolic"-wish is true.....On eDonkey2000 i get 2,5kb's-1000kb's,on Gnutella i have mostly 5kb's-1500kb's,and Ares give me from 2,5kb's-1200kb's.I have 10mb in line speed.The strange thing is i have better speed in kb's on both Ares and Gnutella,but eDonkey2000 is still faster for me mostly-atleast on small files....On LimeWire i have only maxs 250kb's-mostly 67kb's as averge!Iam a huge kiss fan,and thats mean i like to" keep it simple stupid",and for me is that eDonkey2000 and Ares mostly...Gnutella flodding over of spam
and stuff-so much,no fun enny moore:w00t: PS: I did tried DreaMule to day,i wasent to happy...To much to config and tweeks to do!Its use eD2K and Kad network,similiar to eDonkey2000 its use eD2K and overnet!The fun part and the eDonkey feeling was'ent there at all....

I don't really get why you talk about the speed of downloading. As long as you find and can get the file in the end it's all good.

BTW try SoulSeek. Few things you can't find there. Of course it takes a bit more interaction between sharers, but well worth it I'm told. I never tried the public shares there. Only between friends.

It's music only.

Because I don't have the time to be waiting for a song to start for hours and then have speeds that my connection could do so much better.

I hardly ever download mp3, I prefer FLAC. So when I find hard to find albums, I don't mind if it takes a day or two.

Likewise, patience is a virtue when seeking harder to find material.
I share over 380 flac files nowadays. I'm sure that will get up to 500 before end of year. I sometimes give choice between both mp3 or flac, depending on the person's own preference. Some of my flac are less than half the size of original aif files, the rest 55-65% of original uncompressed size. I also id3 tag all my flacs.

Oh no, never ever ID3-tag FLAC files. Use Vorbis comment which won't mess with some hardware players and will allow retagging. E.g. Tag&Rename will read the vorbis not ID3, but Foobar2000 will allow the ID3 to override + in perfect rips. ID3-tag might even mess with a perfect burn i.e. not a source=copy. Source being the actual physical CD first ripped.

I missed that article. Do you have links to such expert information that pours acid on taggers that add information to flac files?
I use Media Rage to add tags to different types of files. Media Rage

I could just as easily go back to using Apple Lossless. Just limits who can use them. If FLAC is so affected by tags, then it was definitely a mistake to start using FLAC. It shows FLAC's limitations compared to Apple Lossless that players or burners should be affected by such minor issues as tag information. :rolleyes: iTunes cannot play FLAC for example which is my main player.

From version changes: What's New in 3.4? Release Date 2008.03.14

- [Feature] Added support for the Vorbis/Flac comments "ALBUMSORT" and "ARTISTSORT" using by SlimServer devices.

What's New in 2.3? Release Date 2005-12-21

- [Feature] Support viewing/editing the COMPILATION comment in Ogg Vorbis and FLAC files.

BTW it might also depend on FLAC version.

The problem is many encoders add vorbis and ID3 cause problems.

EAC Setup Guide

This is the official ripping guide for any site that has proper FLAC

As for the Foobar2000 it's personal experience after having edited the tags on 100s of badly tagged rips in Tag&Rename. As well as trying it out myself by checking that option. As for exactly what players can't play or display ID3 I don't know or care. I just make sure to follow that guide except for naming scheme.

I do everything Tracknumber - Title or Tracknumber - Artist - Title for various artists CD's. Also I name the folder Artist - Album (Year) [FLAC] {Other info e.g. catalog number} as per Pedro's and E naming scheme rules. I can't link to that.

I would find some more extensive discussion on it if I wasn't going out. But I'm sure you would find something about it on Hydrogenaudio.

iTunes can play FLAC, but I have no idea if it's by using some plugin or if it's only in Windows or anything like that.

Edit: What better place to find answers than the actual FLAC FAQ:

http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html#general__tagging

I noticed in all the changes with FLAC in the tagger I use, same changes were made with Vorbis in same sentence (there was a few other mentions other than I quoted). I don't know if my tagger does use extra id3 tagging, but do recall they removed one option for tagging FLAC to comply with FLAC changes.
Windows only guide lol :D Unfortunately my tagger does not specify or give options about whether it is using vorbis comments or id3 tag.
I'd like to know more about that. There was Ogg Vorbis works done for mac osx for each of iTunes & QuickTime. However work has not been continued on those projects in a few years at least. I used the vorbis plug-in option for iTunes on my previous mac.
Many programs have limitations of some sort or another. Looks like Foobar2000 has some limitations of its own. Lack of foresight in their programming.

As I hinted at earlier, there are apparently different versions of FLAC. Perhaps the earlier version encoders cannot cope with the added information (earlier version flac libraries). I use Switch for my encoding. I can say Toast Titanium, the best burner program for Mac appears to have no problem with my FLAC files (just tried burning some.)

But points taken. :)

Yeah, I know Windows only sucks, but a program for Mac called CDParanoia should do the trick on a Mac.

For years and years Mac could not do Proper FLAC, but now with the Intel engines and ability to install EAC on a Mac (by using switches), there should be no problems.

It gives me a link to Max, which I already have. lol :D I previously listed Max on alternate audio program section for OSX. It reads the flac tags/comments I'd already added with Media Rage.

BTW did you see FLAC - download where Media Rage is listed at the official FLAC site. :eek: :rolleyes: :rofl:
Quote from FLAC site: And there you are jumping down my throat about me using Media Rage to tag FLAC files.
It also mentions Toast Titanium.

It does not mention Switch, however I only use it for converting.

I never said Media Rage was bad for tagging files or jumped down anyones throat. I just said FLAC files should not be ID3 tagged.

k .. just a pedantic situation about specifics & terms. It was an education to me because I did not know there was a difference, only that FLAC had 'some' tag limitations. :) Thus I referred to them as ID3 tags when they should have been referred to differently. ;) Thank you for educating me about the difference with FLAC & that some devices or/& software is highly sensitive to FLAC comments or ID3 tags.

About time such software updated to the 'real' flac of today huh!? :) Sounds like they are way behind in definitions of flac; probably working with older flac library definitions. As I hinted earlier, not such great programming on 'their' part. BTW I didn't see Foobar2000 mentioned at FLAC site. ;)

Back on topic; Direct Connect was the next best p2p for me. Unfortunately it seems all such development for the Mac OSX platform ceased several years ago. Even on OSX 10.3 it didn't function that well, & didn't work in 10.4 on my older G4. But it was great because of course, there were both private & public hubs, similar to torrents in that respect. Also the DC programs did not carry their shares on their shoulders like some gnutella programs so could share literally 100,000+ files. I used to share from an external drive. The only p2p program that has truely succeeded with that on a (my) mac.
I ended up using DC++ & off-shoot variations on Virtual PC running windows to overcome the OSX issues.

Since this thread got so way off topic anyways and into the world of FLAC, tags and players, I might as well add this.

When we get into the really insane encodes, like 24bit 48kHz or even 96kHz FLAC Vinyl rips, most players will not be able to decode those. Including but not limited to the ever popular VLC, iTunes, MPC and older versions of Foobar2000.

You will need to have the never versions of Foobar2000 or other players with FLAC decoding options, which will notice the 24bit depth. I am guessing the same goes for 32bit, although I had nothing to test that with.

The FLAC tester will say they are corrupt, even with the newest FLAClib. But it will both decode to .wav and encode back to the same exact FLAC.

I almost deleted a few albums last night thinking they were corrupt. Thanks God I did some Googling before I did. Especially considering the size of the albums. Like the 24bit 96kHz copy of the limited edition double album of ...And Justice For All is over 1.3GB in size for just over 65 minutes of music. You don't have to edit that because I own the Original.

But it's all worth it. The CD sounds like crap compared to the Vinyl. There is just something about Vinyl that a CD just doesn't catch.

These encodes are not playable on CD. If someone was to burn them, they would first need to get the sample rate down to 44.100Hz by first decoding to .wav and the using something like r8brain http://www.voxengo.com/product/r8brain/ (freeware)

The main difference in sound quality between vinyl and CD has to do with compression. Analog has a much richer tone, but will distort at high volume. Digital doesn't distort, but the compression causes the sound to be a bit tinny. Same reason vacuum tube amps have a richer sound than solid state amps.

If the original recording was not re-mastered for digital. A problem with all the earliest CD's that were originally vinyl records was just as Blackhorse suggested, they all sounded tinny. The vinyl versions sounded heaps better. I recall I even had a cassette tape recording of a vinyl record that sounded heaps better than the CD of the same album. I ended up some years later purchasing the remastered version. I had wondered since whether that was done deliberately for marketing reasons. ;)

Not sure about FLAC, but Toast on mac converts 24 bit or/& 96 KHz audio to audio cd or standard 16 bit 41.1 KHz without issue in my experience. However, I'd prefer to use a proper audio pro editing program for the purpose of such downsampling.

I don't like some of the remastered versions. Most of them are as good as the original pressing but there are exceptions. If we take e.g. Hysteria, a cousin of mine owns both the Vinyl and the original CD pressing, while I own only the remastered version. I only listen to my copy of the original CD pressing while the remastered version I haven't even bothered to rip.

I don't think the person(s) who remastered that one can even have heard the original vinyl before remastering it. Either that or they brought their own artistic views onto it, which IMO is a nono.

BTW pretty nice that Toast will recognize sample rate before burning. Many programs don't and most others need some kind of plugin.

I never used it, some of my friend was telling me about this but at that time i was not aware of these parts, thanks for sharing for information, i am going to try this one and will let you know about the results.

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