Can't Load Limewire
 

I don't know what it is, probably more of Microsoft's BS, but Limewire won't load up AT ALL. It's like Microsoft is secretly blocking the program from being used or something.

HELP ME?! Why, when I open Limewire, does it not load AT ALL? It's like I might as well have not clicked on it because it does nothing. Any suggestions!? PLEASE!?

It doesn't matter where I click on it. Any shortcut on the desktop, through the start menu, or through the root folder don't load anything. I re-installed it and it still does nothing...

... i don't suppose Kazaa would have anything to do with it would they? I uninstalled it but I suppose it could have installed some anti-limewire stuff anyway.

Have you considered doing a system maintenance check with whatever utilities you have? ALso check your comp for viruses, adware, etc. Here's some: -ad-ware http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
-Spybot - Search & Destroy 1.3 http://www.safer-networking.org/en/mirrors/index.html
-Spy Sweeper http://www.webroot.com/wb/downloads/index.php & also defrag your hard disk drives.

This may/maynot help: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...9050#post99050 OR this http://support.microsoft.com/default...2Futility2.asp

Did you use the english installer? Some people solve installation probs by using the international installer which uses a different type of installer (InstallAnywhere whereas the english version uses InstallShield.) The 2 disadvantages with the international installer is it's much larger dwnld size (although the program itself is the same size), & it installs the Java 1.3 version.

Alternatively try out the LW beta 4.1.7. More info can be found here: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...5&pagenumber=1

i installed international and it works every time now

but....

Now, whenever I play any vids through LW, my comp freezes up and shuts down and says "fatal error"

Just leaving LW on for 5 minutes will make the comp freeze and shut down also.

SAVE ME! I have over 2500 vids and songs, so it's for your own benefit!

Delete your Java 1.3 & update to the latest Java http://www.java.com/en/download/windows_automatic.jsp (that's probably the best to to force the interntional version to use the update version!)

Also although you can preview video from LW's dwnld's. May I highly recommend that you normally only play video outside of LW; ie: if it's already dwnlded, then open it using your default video player & not using LW as a go-between. This is obviously causing some issues on your comp. Within you incomplete folder you'll also find Preview files which are created everytime you preview a file. May I suggest you delete these (only the preview files.) If you have previewed many video files, then you may have many of these which are taking up valuable space! I've heard of people running out of hard disk space because they hadn't cleaned out their video preview files.

Forcing LW Pro International to use later versions of Java
 

Hi LOTR

I was somewhat surprised by your reply to Satoris about forcing LW Pro International to use other versions of Java, namely version 1.4 and upwards. Unless something has changed quite recently we had just concluded, thanks to Sberlin’s great insight, that this was not currently possible.

Here is the link: [URL=http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27954]

My understanding is that Java 1.3, shipped with LW Pro International, is fully integrated with the program and, after having a look in my “C:\Program Files\LimeWire” folder, that Java cannot be easily extracted or deleted.

It seems, unless I am told otherwise, that the only way to get LW Pro International to use later versions of Java is to provide some sort of manual selection facility, preferably under the “Tools\Options” menu.



UK Bob

If that method works then that's great. It would solve that issue hopefully. I'm not a pc user per se, so your experience is welcome. I only suggest using the international version for installation probs where the InstallAnywhere installer is able to overcome issues that InstallShield has on 'certain systems'. As stated, Java 1.3 is a disadvantage of the Intern'l version. But maybe my suspicion of Java being the issue might be incorrect. It's very often the cause of an issue.

If you want to use a later version of Java, don't use the international installer. It's really as simple as that.

If, for some strange reason, the English installer doesn't work, then I suppose you could delete the 'jre' directory in LimeWire, and it'll instead try and find another JRE. However, that entirely depends on how your system is set up, and could potentially cause problems.

The JRE is chosen before LimeWire is even started, so a setting within LimeWire will not work. (Yes, it theoretically is possible, but choosing the version of Java could cause so many problems that it really isn't worth it.)

Obviously the international installer & java 1.3 is not causing everybody problems, but if it is such an issue then why isn't it taken off the dwnld shelf until it is updated properly. Else ship the english version with alternative installers.

LW Pro International
 

Hi Sberlin (& LOTR)

I am not sure your answer, about the problems by having a Java selection feature, has been fully thought out. If, as you say, the current LW Pro loads up Java before it starts then why can't the suggested selection feature say "restart after selecting new version of Java".

As you know, lots of windows applications have to be restarted after selecting or updating a major feature, LW is no different because you have to restart it after doing an incremental update.

Finally, I think that LOTR's suggestion has a lot of merit, i.e. ship versions of LW Pro with alternative installers and, if I may extend the idea, with and without Java.




UK Bob

We do plan to ultimately merge the international & English installer. The reason they must exist separately now is so that we can 100% guarantee that the JRE supports international characters. The one downloaded by the English installer does not always support international characters, because the download is much larger (and the vast majority of people don't need it). Until we can come up with a viable solution for this, the two installers are going to remain separate. Rest assured, though, that we're looking at it.

As far as selecting the version of Java within LimeWire -- we have thought it out. It is not as simple as "restart now". The setting is maintained in a way that makes it easy for a Java program to read, not in a way that makes it easy for a C/C++ program to read (which is what LimeWire.exe is, launching a JVM and starting LimeWire within it). Yes, we could spend time adding this functionality to LimeWire.exe, but in all honestly it isn't worth it. Choosing the JRE is way too advanced for any user and can cause a whole load of problems. Choosing the version of Java is outside the scope of LimeWire. It is a system issue.

We already do ship LimeWire with and without Java. If you download the English version, it comes without Java. If you download the international version, it comes with Java. Unfortunately, for the time being the version of Java it comes with is 1.3. If you do not want to use 1.3, do not use the international installer.

Can someone explain to me again why using the English installer isn't an option? That really will solve every problem you've mentioned.

The international installer has solved many people's installation problems. Until the installation issue is addressed, people will continue to have installation problems. lol you made no mention of my suggestion. :D

I think you're confused by the names of the installers. There is no such thing as an "English version" of LimeWire. There is just an InstallShield installer which we dub the English installer because it doesn't include an international JRE and an InstallAnywhere installer that we dub the International installer because it does include an international JRE. The LimeWire contained in each is 100% exactly the same.

The entire point of the 'English' installer is to not include a JRE, and to download one at install-time if it finds the using doesn't have a JRE. Conversely, the point of the "International" installer is to include an international JRE.

We are going to remove these two installers and make a single installer that can choose which JRE to get (and also get 1.4 instead of 1.3) at some point in time. That will ultimately solve all the various Java version problems. Until then, we're not doing anything with the installers.

If you want to use a newer version of Java, use the English installer. If you don't, use the International installer. If the English installer doesn't work, you can try the International installer and then delete the 'jre' directory in C:\Program Files\LimeWire. I can't guarantee that'll work, but it should.

It's still an imperfect solution. Why choose 2 different types of installers in the 1st place? There was obviously a reason for doing so. Perhaps to counter for alternative versions & set-ups of OS - unless it was more related to java installation. Besides, we've established that there is an issue with installation using the InstallShield installer for a reasonable no. of people. So how do you intend to cater for these people in the future? What type of installer will you use - or is that still in the think tank?

Windows has so many bugs. Aerogarde please. Ah why don't people use macs instead. lol :D

We're probably going to use Nullsoft's installer. The reason for using InstallAnywhere was that we use it anyway to package up the Linux installer, and used to use it for the Mac Classic & OSX installers. It allowed easy packaging of a JRE, which we needed for the international scenario.

The 'english' version isn't working on my computer - that's the problem - it just won't open up. Clicking on it does nothing, it's like a plane takes off flying but is shot down before it gets above ground.

So, I installed the international version. It works every time now, but after running it for more than 5 minutes, it causes my computer to not respond to anything for about 15 seconds then restarts it automatically.

I deleted the JRE folder and it seems to be working fine at the moment... but I suspect it will still crash. I'll let you know what happens.

Yup it crashed.

Did you follow all the suggestions in regards to deleting Java 1.3 & then updating Java at http://www.java.com/en/download/windows_automatic.jsp It's one thing to delete the earlier verion of Java, but (1) you must have a later version of java installed & (2) Did you activate the newer version of Java thru the control panels?

Yeah... got rid of 1.3, so of course I made sure it didn't work (and it didn't). I installed the latest version of Java and LW works. Same problem though. Shuts down the comp randomly for no apparent reason.

Awww come on guys, don't leave me hangin! I don't want to go back to kazaa! I want to shut that part of my past in a locked room never to be opened!

Makes your comp shut down? Did this ever happen before using LW? Do you use an AMD processor? Have a browse of this thread (click link.)

What type of firewalls & antivirus do you use? Have you updated these?

Do an online system check here: http://pcpitstop.com/ & also you can do an Online parasite check & also an Online security check

Try unistalling (completely. That means also manually deleting the prefs folder) and redownloading the English only version.