I am writing in response to Adam Fisk's reply, Adam I think alot of machines are having huge problems running 1.8c under Win2k and WinXP I have two machines with both those OS's installed and LIMEWIRE 1.8c doesnt work under either one of them, I keeo getting a javaw.exe error so I downloaded all the necessary plugins and re-installed 1.8c and still it doesnt work, it shuts down after it opens for a sec. Is there a need for a separate version for NT, 2K and XP users? what is the solution?