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Hitman40 March 30th, 2006 05:35 PM

Questions on BSOD
 
I started getting the BSOD lately. I dont get it when I turn on "Automatically Restart" under system failure in Computer Properties, but my computer just automatically restarts instead without the BSOD
Basically, this error occurs whenever I try to Connect in Limewire. Java doesn't seem to be the problem. I've lately also gotten my computer reformated and upgraded. I have an Intel Celeron Processor, not sure what kind. And Im not a computer expert.

I've read through many posts, and I've come to a couple of conclusions. But I have a couple of questions regarding them:

I've read that one solution to this problem is to download Service Pack 2. Can anyone give me a direction link to it?

How can I tell if I already have SP2 installed? -because SP2 might be causing the problem instead-

I've also read that I have to download some new driver (2200BG), but isn't this causing the problem?

I might come up with some more questions.
But any help would be greately appreciated.

birdy March 30th, 2006 05:57 PM

You can download SP2 from here
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx

If you already have it installed, your little windows progress bar (that you see when your Win is loading) will be blue.

SP2 has caused quite a few connection probs (totally stuffed mine) for some people. Maybe you should use the search & look for info about it before you install it. You may need a patch for it if it does cause you trouble.

I guess you've seen this thread (with it's heaps of links:) about BSD)?
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...&highlight=bsd

;)

Grandpa March 30th, 2006 09:34 PM

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You can see if you have Service Pack 2 by clicking on Start/My Computer on the left side of the screen click on view system information. The pop-up will tell you if you have service pack 2.

Hitman40 March 31st, 2006 10:52 AM

Ok I have SP2. I have some more questions

Now could the BSOD be caused by SP2? Or the 2200BG Intel Wireless Chipset?

Is there any way to uninstall SP2 and go back to SP1?

Where is the link on Intel's website to the driver update version 9 for the 2200BG?

Thanks

Grandpa March 31st, 2006 02:22 PM

If the problem recently started it is not caused by service pack2 and it is not wise to revert to service pack1. There are numerous security issues and vulnerabilities in service pack1 which can not be stooped. If you choose to run service pack1 be very careful what you download and what web sites you visit. The most likely reason for the BSOD is either a conflict with any new software you have added, any new hardware, either of these would most likely be driver issues. Or you have a ram/cpu/hard drive/motherboard or some other component failing.Also a bad Windows install is notorious for causing the BSOD which is very likely since you state you recently reformatted and upgraded.

Unfortunately these problems can be caused by allot of different things and can be very hard to figure out. Why did you reformat and upgrade to begin with. Did you use a original Windows Disk or a copy. Do you know if your motherboard supports your new CPU, Was the Bios flashed and updated when you upgraded. There are allot of things that need to be done and checked when you upgrade CPU's. Was the person that did the work a professional or just a friend or yourself that has maybe done a upgrade or two.

Hitman40 March 31st, 2006 04:11 PM

I reformatted and upgraded because my computer was overloaded with so many things. Best Buy's "Geek Squad" reformatted my computer, and they installed windows.

But chances are it could be the 2200BG Intel Wireless Chipset. How can I find out if I have that installed on my computer?

Limewire restarts my comp everytime I try to connect, but it doesn't restart if I just leave the limewire window opened while im disconnected. It could be somesort of connection malfunction, thus which might be related with the 2200BG Chipset.

By the way, anyone happen to have the link to Intel's 2200BG Intel Wireless Chipset driver update 9?

But in the end, all I know is I just took it to the Geek Squad to have my comp reformatted and upgraded.

birdy March 31st, 2006 04:33 PM

Is this what you're looking for?
http://network.free-driver-download....s-2000-XP.html

:)

Grandpa March 31st, 2006 06:37 PM

Or this

http://support.intel.com/support/wir.../cs-010623.htm

Hitman40 April 1st, 2006 11:51 AM

Ok Thanks Everyone. Just one more question.

How can I tell if I have the 2200BG installed on my computer? I dont want to download the update for a chipset I might not have.

Grandpa April 1st, 2006 12:21 PM

Download and install the tool at the link below

http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...=1637&lang=eng


http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...ional&lang=eng

Hitman40 April 1st, 2006 12:31 PM

I downloaded the wireless network Identification tool. Here's an update.

It says cannot detect wireless network. LAN harware not connected. I don't get it...

I don't use LAN. I use SBC DSL-modem.

But back to my question, how can you tell if you have the 2200BG installed on your comp? But if what I'v just did means I don't have the 2200BG, then I'm completely clueless on what's causing the BSOD.

And also, whats a network adapter? I have one-Realtek Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC

Grandpa April 1st, 2006 12:46 PM

Try This. Unfortunatley I am not a fan of intell. When I build I use AMD

http://support.intel.com/support/chi.../CS-021273.htm

Grandpa April 2nd, 2006 09:15 PM

Hitman40

The lord sent me a copy of the PM you sent him did you have the geek squad overclock your computer.

And by the way a LAN is the connection setting your computer uses to get to your network. And unless you are on a network it wouldnt be present.

Hitman40 April 3rd, 2006 05:45 PM

Ok. I'll ask them if they overclocked it. If they did, should they under clock it?

LAN is present on my computer, I use a DSL connection though, and it says that my LAN connection is broken.

Grandpa April 3rd, 2006 06:24 PM

If I were you I would make them figure out what is wrong and fix it. If I worked on someones computer and returned it to them and told them it was good to go. It should be good to go. LimeWire will not cause a BSoD if their isn't a problem somewhere else. You can take any computer out of the box and install LimeWire on it and it will run without crashing or getting the BSoD. You paid them good money to upgrade and they gave you back a computer that will not do what any normal computer will do. It is broke and they should fix it.

Hitman40 April 3rd, 2006 07:08 PM

That's true. But they gave me some BS like my spysweeper is blocking Limewire and my computer is corrupt now or something like that. They said they can't work with Limewire for some reason (I think its because as soon as they connect, they share files). So the GS can't fix the problem if they don't experience it thought. I'm sure it's a hardware problem. But thanks again for all the help.

Grandpa April 3rd, 2006 07:28 PM

The don't have to connect to the Internet to fix your problem. All they have to do is turn your computer on and start LimeWire. The reason they can not work with LimeWire is because it shows there is a problem and they need to fix it. If you remove LimeWire then there is no problem so they don't have to fix it. They are using LimeWire as an excuse so the do not have to fix what they messed up. If it were me I would tell them that I believe the last number was 1.5 million computers are currently running LimeWire and they are not getting the BSoD.

ukbobboy01 April 4th, 2006 05:04 AM

Blue Screen of Death
 
Hitman40

I entirely agree with Grandpa, your geeks cannot fix the problem because they have no idea what it is. Back in the dim and distant past, when I used to work on PCs and faced with a similar problem, I would go through a trial and error process to find out what the problem was and then come up with a solution, not fob the user off with techno-babble.

Anyway, I have also had the dreaded BSOD, in the recent past, when using LW and that tended to be an incompatibility between the video driver and LW. I cured the problem by downloading and installing the latest drivers for my video card.

In order to do this you have to find out what video card or onboard video set-up your PC is using then go to the video manufacturer’s web site and download the latest drivers for your PC.

Hope this helps.




UK Bob

Hitman40 April 5th, 2006 05:26 PM

I've scrammbled across something that I'm curious about. I went to Control Panel, and there I see "Wireless Network Setup Wizard." I'm not sure what it is, but do you guys recommend me initiating it for it to work with limewire?

Lord of the Rings April 5th, 2006 05:28 PM

From memory it's for setting up UPnP on your wireless device. For more on UPnP see the UPnP section here about 1/4 down the page Connection problems? Check here first! (click on link)

Grandpa April 5th, 2006 06:44 PM

That is for setting up a wireless network on your computer. Or setting up a secure connection. I think your problem is something other than that since you have a wireless connection already. Your problem is most likely as UKbobboy suggested a driver or something along those lines.A bad install of windows will also do the same thing.I do believe I would be more assertive with the geek squad if it were me and make them fix it. If you keep messing around with it they will be able to say it was something you did. Just ask they why millions of people can run LimeWire but after they fixed your computer you can't.


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