i just tried bearshare2.5beta13 and i must say its amazing
there is ALOT of content i never discovered when using gnucleus/limewire/phex/whatever
AND it works! i click a file and it gets downloaded... BS finds more sources etc. and BS has hashes...

and most sources i find are BS, most clients in my "hosts" tab also... this scares me a little :/
will it become 2 networks? "bearshare" and "gnutella" ?

(i have already seen polls asking "what do you use: 1. edonkey 2. bearshare 3.gnutella ....)


if only bearshares user interface was a little more fitting for "pro"-users
i want "extended info"

Vinnie has been "tweaking" the host cache to be sure that the networks remain connected. I dont remember the exact numbers but BS clients will clump together but maintain many connections to the rest of the network. All you need to do is look at the search results to see that results are coming from all over and thus the network is still connected. Blocking BS will only make the situation everyone here is complaining about worse.

For anyone that hates BS, try the latest beta (14 I believe). As soon as 2.5 goes public 3.0 code is ready for testing. This will introduce ultrapeers which will make the BS cluster very small, thus providing for even more connectivity to the rest of the network.

2.5 also introduces download meshes for finding more sources!! What a great feature.

i think they really want to get 2.5 "final" ... that must be the third version for today

You don't get it
1. Vinnie wants to own his own little network, LET HIM!
2. I don't want to support his little network $$, that's why I don't use BearShare!
3. He makes $$ from his little network, greed doesn't belong on gnutella, see what the RIAA is doing via GREED!
4. Commercial interests will bow down to forces such as RIAA MPAA and you will get screwed in the end! Your privacy is at risk!
5. Vinnnie's attitude of total domination sucks, he needs to get a real job.
6. Commercial interests have now lost to a open source client and will do anything to regain their position as "#1", this is GREED at work! Watch out!
7. I like being part of the network, not some "outsider" looking in and like being able to connect WITHIN a network.

Do you like being a "outsider" ?

I was using Gnotella and had to move to another GNet client because of BS. Enough siad.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by backmann
[B]I was using Gnotella and had to move to another GNet client because of BS. Enough siad.

Ivan


Xolox still works... also a 0.4 client!

Morgwen

Gnotella still works fine, just wont connect to BS. By the way, old versions of BS wont connect to the new BS either!!!

Its still gnutella.

No problem, thats your choice.

He has to make a living. Unless someone can organize ALOT of people to dedicate some good time to coding it is not easy to code a good powerful client


I assume you are refering to Morpheus. Well that happens to be a MAJOR commercial interest. And in case you havent read they will be having a new closed source Moprheus 2.0 with software to enforce copyright!!!

It will be less important for BS to cluster as other clients add much needed features such as file hashes and ultrapeers. What do you care, your horizon is still the same no matter what client you are using. If you hate BS so much why do you want to see it in your horizon anyway?

Funny, but BearShare was the first program to display User Agents and Versions in its respective lists.

Pretty ironic that the only reason you know about clustering or who is connected to who, or what versions of software your hosts are running, is the very program that you are bad mouthing (BearShare).

You are the best!

Morgwen

So if you didn't do that you could keep clustering in secret? Someone finally figured out what you have been doing all this time, Gnutella domination.
You should've never added User Agents, your ego told you that no one would ever figure out what sneaky things you were up too, we are all below your IQ anyway and can't figure this out. You screwed up.
IQ = IQ - 20; // buzzzzzz - penalty!
You are so busted!
People had to raise a big stink about your spyware to get it off and it took a lot to just get you to simply warn people about it. You think you would have learned after that, but no. You went on to do other sneaky things.
IQ = IQ - 10; // penalty for not learning!
You like secrets, spyware, spy packets and your own network, now you have it.
Do all the spying, secret cookie watching, kiss RIAA a ss and whatever else you want to do on your own little commercial private network you created.
We are all going elsewhere, please stay away, far far away!