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dss_cottage February 19th, 2007 09:35 AM

Another Can't connect ?
 
I've read quite a few "can't connect" posts and non seem to apply to me.

I can't get BearShare or any other P2P or Torrent program to connect on my Win XP SP2 computer.

I have both a Win 98SE and the Win XP SP2 computer connected to a D-Link router on DSL. Both computers run ZoneAlarm firewall. ZoneAlarm on both computers is configured to allow the BearShare (and other P2P) connections. All programs work fine on the Win98SE computer but none work on the Win XP machine.

I've tried to make the connection directly to the DSL (w/o router) and still no go.

My problem must be something in Win XP. What is there in XP that i need to adjust?

muhctekdano February 19th, 2007 10:00 AM

Windows XP has a firewall of its own.

Go into the control panel and disable it (you shouldn't have two firewalls running simultaneously, as they can interfere with each other).

Hope this helps :idea:

Dano

dss_cottage February 19th, 2007 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muhctekdano
Windows XP has a firewall of its own.

Go into the control panel and disable it (you shouldn't have two firewalls running simultaneously, as they can interfere with each other).

Hope this helps :idea:

Dano

I disabled the Windows firewall about 3 seconds after XP was installed. However, thanks for the suggestion.

AaronWalkhouse February 20th, 2007 09:43 PM

Download BearDiag and run it on both machines, then zip up the reports and attach them to posts.

dss_cottage February 21st, 2007 08:51 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronWalkhouse
Download BearDiag and run it on both machines, then zip up the reports and attach them to posts.

Thanks AaronWalkhouse,

Anyone who wades through all that info deserves a hero badge!!!

Here are the files:

By the way, I should also mention. BearShare (and other P2P progs) used to work on the Win XP computer before I upgraded to Win XP. Previously, I had Win 2000 operating on exactly the same DSL/Router configuration.

I recognize that BearDiag recommends a newer version of BearShare and a firewall other than ZoneAlarm. Given that my current version and ZoneAlarm are working on the Win98SE machine and used to work on this machine prior to WinXP, I'm assuming that they should work in some fashion on the WinXP machine. (I don't want to change too many things at once.)

Thanks in advance,
dss_cottage

AaronWalkhouse February 21st, 2007 01:03 PM

Looks like they are trying to use the same ports on both machines. In
Setup/Connection you can change one from 6346 to anything else. Then you
can adjust your firewall and router port forwarding to match the new port
number. The same goes for any of your other P2P software. Make sure each
has it's own unique port.

In freepeers.ini, try reversing the following option:
(Stop BearShare before you open the file or your changes will be lost.)
[Hosts]
bNativeCompletionPorts = Yes ; Use native completion ports for socket I/O

If these don't help, uninstall ZoneAlarm, reboot and test BearShare and your
other P2P software again. That company never really fixed that problem with
packet fragments arriving out of order and it got worse when XP came along.
BearShare and other P2P software have also been using UDP more and more
over the past couple of years which made ZoneAlarm's notorious weakness
stand out.

By the way. There have been so many advances between BearShare 4.5 and
5.1 that you really can't afford not to try the beta I posted. Some of those
advances are in low-level networking code specifically to accommodate XP,
especially SP2, which made a change in it's TCP networking driver to limit the
rate at which a program can open new connections. Since your copy of
BearShare is so old it appears likely that your other P2P apps also predate this
important change in the OS. Kazaa definitely never survived long enough to
make the change. Update all of your P2P apps if you can and if there is still
one you cannot go to www.lvllord.de and download his Event 4228 patcher,
which will let you adjust the connection rate upward. :cool:

dss_cottage February 22nd, 2007 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronWalkhouse
Looks like they are trying to use the same ports on both machines. In
Setup/Connection you can change one from 6346 to anything else. Then you
can adjust your firewall and router port forwarding to match the new port
number. The same goes for any of your other P2P software. Make sure each
has it's own unique port.
:cool:

Just before I start, one more question....

I never use any P2P program simultaneously on both computers. Given this, I assumed that using the same ports wouldn't be a problem. Right?

As part of my previous problem solving, I adjusted the listening port on my torrent program. It didn't make any difference. I still couldn't connect regardless of which port I used. That's part of the reason that I thought the problem was WinXP rather than the P2P program, router or port.

AaronWalkhouse February 22nd, 2007 11:58 AM

It could be the event 4228 problem or simply that the software is so badly outdated.
Or both. That would explain the problem with XP. ;]

The same ports would be a problem when the router is online. It can only
forward a particular port to one machine.

The router may also have a firewall of some kind, but it doesn't seem likely
that this is your problem since you didn't change the network card.

Once you do get things working it would be worthwhile to set static internal IP
addresses and set up port forwarding for all the P2P apps. They can get along
with out it but performance and available sources increase greatly once you
get the incoming channels open.

dss_cottage February 24th, 2007 02:51 PM

Aaron,

Thanks again for all of your help.

Please excuse me for being so anal with all my questions but I really want to understand not only what I am doing but why I am doing it. I'm fairly astute with computers but am still green regarding networking.

Before I posted, I checked my event log for error 4228 and found none. I do have static IP addresses set up for my computer to router links.

I have read many posts telling people to port forward but have not done this. My reasoning is that I didn't set up port forwarding from my Win98SE machine and all P2P and torrent programs work just fine. If they work on the Win98SE machine, I'm rationalizing that they should also work on the Win XP machine w/o port forwarding. (after it is finally working, I will update my clients and port forward as you recommend)

Case in point.....
I just installed Opera 9.10 on both machines (without any changes to Opera, or the router. Of course, I granted permission to ZoneAlarm.). Opera 9.10 has an embedded bittorrent client. It will not connect from my Win XP machine but works perfectly from my Win98SE machine. This is the same symptom as BearShare. In my simple mind, this tells me that my P2P and torrent clients and router are OK but WinXP is the problem.

Am I missing something?

AaronWalkhouse February 24th, 2007 06:48 PM

There is probably an interaction between XP and ZoneAlarm that doesn't exist in
Win98 since the TCP stack is three generations apart.
Have you tried uninstalling it yet?

dss_cottage February 25th, 2007 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronWalkhouse
There is probably an interaction between XP and ZoneAlarm that doesn't exist in
Win98 since the TCP stack is three generations apart.
Have you tried uninstalling it yet?

OK. I'm bewildered!

I previously said that I prefer to understand what and why I'm doing something. I don't understand but it is working now.

Here is a seriously abbreviated version of what I had previously done:
-installed various P2P & torrent programs - they wouldn't connect on the XP machine
-uninstalled both ZoneAlarm & AVG virus scanner - they still didn't work.
-reinstalled both ZoneAlarm & AVG virus scanner - they still didn't work

Here is what I just did:
-disabled ZoneAlarm (not uninstalled), tried BearShare - didn't work
-uninstalled BearShare 4.5.0.63, installed BearShare 5.2.5 - It WORKED!
-re-enabled ZoneAlarm - It still works!
-I checked the bittorrent client in Opera and it now works too!

It doesn't make any sense and I don't understand why but it is working.

BTW - Once it was working, I checked my event log and found one 4226 entry - (TCP/IP reached connection limit). I presume that I should use lvllord to increase the number of half open connections. What number would you recommend?

AaronWalkhouse February 25th, 2007 04:23 PM

That thing defaults to 50 which is probably good enough. If you ever see it
again try 100. BearShare and BT won't need more than that. It can go up to
16 million but there's no point because nothing can go that fast without
crashing your router. ;]

The fact that the newer BearShare worked makes sense. We were still using
Win9x and XP SP1 back when we were testing BS 4.5 and the changes to
accommodate XP SP2 didn't come along until many months later.

Now that it is working try the b25 version with BearStart. There are several
reasons to prefer it over any of the newer versions. :cool:

dss_cottage February 26th, 2007 10:18 AM

Hi Arron,

I've done as you recommended (installed v 5.1.0b25, BearStart V2 & used lvllord to set half open connections to 50).

Everything is working perfectly!

In my search for information, I have followed your links and Googled many other sources. Everywhere I go, I find different forums and I find your posts helping other people! You are amazing! I always find it incredible that there are people like you who so selflessly offer their time and support to others.

You deserve a Hero Badge.

Thank-you VERY, VERY much!
dss_cottage

Xander123 February 27th, 2007 11:29 AM

I can’t connected either
 
I can’t connected with bearsharepro 5.2.5

I have searched for answers a lot, but without succeed.

I tried without firewall

Now I’ve installed v 5.1.0b25, BearStart V2 and I haven’t connection either.

Is there anyone what can help me?

Manny thanks than

AaronWalkhouse February 27th, 2007 11:53 AM

http://downloads.technutopia.com/beardiag/BearDiag.exe

Your turn. ;]

Xander123 February 27th, 2007 06:19 PM

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 1:53:26, on 28-2-2007
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16414)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgamsvr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgupsvc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgemc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\svcntaux.exe
C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\swdsvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Jetico\Jetico Personal Firewall\fwsrv.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe
C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\SDTrayApp.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\AutoDetector\monitor.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Chameleon Clock\ChamClock.exe
C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\swdoctor.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\heavenly.CHOIRBOYS-7283E\Mijn documenten\S\b\crack\BearShare.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Pando Networks\Pando\pando.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\heavenly.CHOIRBOYS-7283E\Bureaublad\BearDiag.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\heavenly.CHOIRBOYS-7283E\Bureaublad\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.live.com/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = http://search.bearshare.com/sidebar.html?src=ssb
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName = Koppelingen
F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe
O2 - BHO: CInterceptor Object - {38D3FE60-3D53-4F37-BB0E-C7A97A26A156} - C:\Program Files\Pando Networks\Pando\PandoIEPlugin.dll
O2 - BHO: PCTools Browser Monitor - {B56A7D7D-6927-48C8-A975-17DF180C71AC} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\iesdpb.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [JeticoPFStartup] "C:\Program Files\Jetico\Jetico Personal Firewall\fwsrv.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe /STARTUP
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SDTray] C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\SDTrayApp.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroFilterCheck] C:\WINDOWS\system32\NeroCheck.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Ulead AutoDetector v2] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\AutoDetector\monitor.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RegSweep] "C:\Program Files\RegSweep\RegSweep.exe" -boot
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [HomeAlarm] C:\Program Files\Chameleon Clock\ChamClock.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE
O4 - Global Startup: Privoxy.lnk = F:\map\tor\Privoxy\privoxy.exe
O9 - Extra button: Spyware Doctor - {2D663D1A-8670-49D9-A1A5-4C56B4E14E84} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\iesdpb.dll
O9 - Extra button: Run WinHTTrack - {36ECAF82-3300-8F84-092E-AFF36D6C7040} - C:\Program Files\WinHTTrack\WinHTTrackIEBar.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Launch WinHTTrack - {36ECAF82-3300-8F84-092E-AFF36D6C7040} - C:\Program Files\WinHTTrack\WinHTTrackIEBar.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\spyware doctor\filterlsp.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\spyware doctor\filterlsp.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\spyware doctor\filterlsp.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\common files\pc tools\lsp\pctlsp.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\common files\pc tools\lsp\pctlsp.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\common files\pc tools\lsp\pctlsp.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\common files\pc tools\lsp\pctlsp.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\spyware doctor\filterlsp.dll
O11 - Options group: [INTERNATIONAL] International*
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {193C772A-87BE-4B19-A7BB-445B226FE9A1} (ewidoOnlineScan Control) - http://downloads.ewido.net/ewidoOnlineScan.cab
O16 - DPF: {5ED80217-570B-4DA9-BF44-BE107C0EC166} (Windows Live Safety Center Base Module) - http://cdn.scan.onecare.live.com/res...scbase9602.cab
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/microsof...?1171721740688
O16 - DPF: {BB21F850-63F4-4EC9-BF9D-565BD30C9AE9} (a-squared Scanner) - http://ax.emsisoft.com/asquared.cab
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - http://fpdownload2.macromedia.com/ge...sh/swflash.cab
O20 - Winlogon Notify: WRNotifier - WRLogonNTF.dll (file missing)
O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgamsvr.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgupsvc.exe
O23 - Service: AVG E-mail Scanner (AVGEMS) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgemc.exe
O23 - Service: Spyware Doctor Auxiliary Service (sdAuxService) - PC Tools - C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\svcntaux.exe
O23 - Service: Spyware Doctor Service (sdCoreService) - PC Tools - C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\swdsvc.exe

Xander123 February 28th, 2007 06:46 AM

dit you find anything?

I had the computer scanned with RegSweep.

Its better now, but still slow

AaronWalkhouse February 28th, 2007 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dss_cottage
You deserve a Hero Badge.

Thank-you VERY, VERY much!
dss_cottage

I'll take one of these: http://www3.telus.net/Aaron_Walkhous...pace Wings.PNG

:D

AaronWalkhouse February 28th, 2007 02:49 PM

Xander, try uninstalling that Spyware Doctor program then reboot and see if BearShare works.

Xander123 March 1st, 2007 09:14 AM

I get the solution now for sure!

Its pando what blocs the Gnutella network!

Everything works perfectly now!

Anyway, thanks for you help AaronWalkhouse!

@dss_cottage, did you have the same program installed what cause the trouble?

I’m curious!

dss_cottage March 1st, 2007 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xander123
I get the solution now for sure!

Its pando what blocs the Gnutella network!

Everything works perfectly now!

Anyway, thanks for you help AaronWalkhouse!

@dss_cottage, did you have the same program installed what cause the trouble?

I’m curious!

No I didn't. There is nothing I did that makes sense to me that would have resolved my problem. I can certainly understand that all the great advice given to me by Aaron was right and I'm sure that is what fixed BearShare. However, I can't understand how making the changes to BearShare would also have fixed my torrent programs.

AaronWalkhouse March 1st, 2007 02:09 PM

The old BearShare probably tangled things up a bit in the networking
components of Windows. It was too aggressive in opening and closing
connections which tended to leave behind a lot of orphaned packet fragments
in the networking buffers. Eventually Windows runs out of places to put those
fragments and the next program to come along that wants to open a lot of
connections finds Windows unable to keep up.

What's a pando? Any relation to the Panda antivirus?

Xander123 March 1st, 2007 04:40 PM

Pando is a file-sharing program via the e-mail.

I thought that that resolved my problem, but I’m not sure anymore.

Suddenly it just worked :confused:

narry007 March 11th, 2007 09:15 AM

Help Please !!
 
1 Attachment(s)
Okay .... let me start .. i had a windows XP SP1 which had bear share running on it perfectly. I got some virus in my system, due to which i could not open any website or connect to yahoo, google or msn messenger BUT i was able to download off bearshare ! So I thought i'd format the C: drive and install the OS again and thus got the windows XP SP2 installed on my system.

Now the problem is that I CAN NOT connect to bearshare. ( Hosts not connected )

I am using the bearshare pro 5.0.2.3

I am also uploading the reports. I hope you can help me ...

Also, i am using BSNL broadband service through a router and a LAN card.

Thanks a zillion ....

Narry

AaronWalkhouse March 11th, 2007 09:47 AM

Follow the recommendations in the first part of the report, and especially
move that temp folder from e:\ to something separate from "E:\New Folder (4)".
Something like "E:\BearShareTemp", for example. Nesting one inside the other
like you have will create a tremendous strain as BearShare scans those
changing temp files over and over.

You really should move out those completed downloads. Save them
somewhere BearShare doesnt see and have to keep track of them.

Also, you will probably find the recommended b25 version more compatible with SP2. ;]

narry007 March 12th, 2007 08:56 AM

thanks !
 
Yes, the B25 is awesome .....
but i still cant seem to find out why the pro version just stopped working ....
Anyhow, the speed on b25 is very good... thanks again.

narry007 June 3rd, 2009 07:38 AM

Today is the 3rd of June 2009, and my bearshare was not working !
Just read this thread, tried the suggestions ... IT's WORKING !
awesome.
2 and a half years later the thing still works !
Thanks all !

dss_cottage June 4th, 2009 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by narry007 (Post 344194)
Today is the 3rd of June 2009, and my bearshare was not working !
Just read this thread, tried the suggestions ... IT's WORKING !
awesome.
2 and a half years later the thing still works !
Thanks all !

I understood that Bearshare has settled a law suit by the RIAA, sold itself and shut down. Apparently the new company will reopen with a business similar to Napster. I'm surprised that it is working again.

I'd suggest that you download and install Limewire as an alternative.

AaronWalkhouse June 5th, 2009 07:36 PM

What you are talking about happened four years ago, and BearShare has never stopped working.

dss_cottage June 7th, 2009 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronWalkhouse (Post 344299)
What you are talking about happened four years ago, and BearShare has never stopped working.

Sorry - my bad!

I too have had connection problems. I'm using version 5.1.0b25 with BearStart. In past, it has always connected fairly quickly. However, before I did my searches and found this post, I was getting a "cannot connect to Gnutella servers" message. Part of my search turned up the "old news" on which you corrected me. I obviously didn't look at the date on the articles that I was reading. Then I removed BearShare and installed another client which I don't really like. Based on your feedback (thank-you, by the way), I reinstalled BearShare and I'm initially still getting the "cannot connect to Gnutella servers" message but if I close the window and wait long enough, it does connect and work.

Has something changed to cause this problem?

BTW, I read on another post that "private1.bearshare.net" is down and the hosts are not updating. I've also read other AaronWalkhouse posts and downloaded and installed new hosts files and am still having the same issue.


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