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awb555 February 7th, 2011 05:07 PM

hit and miss connection
 
I love bearshare and that wont change! but.... I am currently using Bear Share 5.2.5 and every time I attempt to run Bear Share, it takes several tries (up to 10 tries). Once I make a connection, it shows one or 17 or thousands of users...why is this??
I’m using this connection list
running on windows 7, 32 & 64 bit

:think:

Lord of the Rings February 8th, 2011 02:55 AM

You could try either of a few other connection lists.
I have a couple at very bottom of post here http://www.gnutellaforums.com/host-c...bearshare.html The rar & zip are same. But two options for each. One came from Windows 2000 & other from Win XP. The first is probably the best.
My Win 2000 BS 5.1 beta connects in seconds. Runs better than either of my other win installations.

File_Girl also has one. But I'm not sure where she's posted it. :o Though she did post http://www.gnutellaforums.com/host-c...d-version.html quite some time back. That cache posted with it is probably too old now. No idea.

Lord of the Rings February 8th, 2011 10:42 AM

Oh didn't finish answering your question. Probably BS is still stabilizing connection so looks like it's connected to lots & lots of others. But you would probably find most of those will drop off the list one by one.
If you are running in ultrapeer mode then you will get lots of connections, over 20 or 30.

When BS begins to connect, it runs through the connection cache & tries each connection. It may also discover some along the way who are running as ultrapeers. So this is why you will normally see lots of connections in the connection window .. even if only for some minutes.

awb555 February 8th, 2011 07:08 PM

thank you for the updated connection list, that seemed to help.
but, i tried the Beta version that you suggested and the expiration
date kept popping up and would not run until i ran it as administer.
it would only connect half the time again..until i had Windows Emulate..
as Windows 2000. it connected flawlessly. as with everything, there is a
BUT...could not access my library..without crashing! it would crash everytime
i opened Bear Share. went back to the 5.25, emulated it with every old version
of Windows that was available to find the best one that was Vista. if i moved
mouse too much , it would crash. SO now what?!! any suggestions??
Also, how is this still operational? can it be tracked back to you

Lord of the Rings February 8th, 2011 08:59 PM

I didn't realise you would install the Beta. I was only referring to the connection cache.

As far as the Beta goes, after installing, you don't open the actual BS program, only the BearStart program. This program pushes the computer system clock time back for a couple of seconds only until the BS beta starts up. You would be best making an exception for this in any security software. And if running it on Vista or Win7, yes may need to Run as Admin.

File_Girl has made a better version of the BearStart program, so it does not cause as much strife to come people's computers as it might. The link to it has not been posted on the forum yet. The eventual plan is to change the entire BS Beta installer with new settings.

With the Beta, best if you select the Force Ultrapeer mode. This seems to get it connecting.

No, the BS web links within the beta program are old & outdated. So nothing whatsoever to do with the new owners of the BS program.

You are running Vista or Windows 7? Did 5.25 only start crashing after you tried the Beta?

awb555 February 9th, 2011 06:29 PM

When running the both versions of BS, I made exceptions for security software.
When I had Beta I did check the Ultrapeer mode. I didn’t notice a difference.
I run Windows 7 BUT I tried it in every Compatibility mode.
Yes, it did start crashing after trying Beta.
Any idea on when file_girl is going to release it?

awb555 February 9th, 2011 07:21 PM

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i tried the Beta again..install went ok..When it asked for ur settings, it doesn't get past the place where u tell it to save ur downloads without crashing.
Attachment 5503
ok i got by that by going into safe mode.
now when i go to bearstart i see
Attachment 5505
i get connected, go to download a song and see this instantly
Attachment 5507
this is what happens when the Compatibility mode is on windows 2000
Attachment 5509

Lord of the Rings February 10th, 2011 11:36 AM

I haven't tested this yet, File_Girl sent me the link a few hours ago (I only just returned to the forum): BSTESTINSTALLER 5.1.0.25.rar - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download. The installer has been changed, prefs are included in the installer, different time-change program to use instead of the BS Start. I'm not sure if she included connection cache, she said she was going to.

I'm going to test this on one of my Win XP's first after uninstalling & removing all traces of previous BS prefs & folders.

You might be suffering same issue I am with running BS Beta on Win 7. It was running fine for almost 12 months until start of year.

If nothing works with the Beta, we will try to work out how to get your 5.2 working without your shares & downloads being affected. ie: deleting your BS preferences. I know which files to take out of the settings folder, but we'll look at that at a later stage if necessary.

awb555 February 10th, 2011 01:03 PM

where are the BS prefs.
C:\Program Files\BearShare Test?
no connection cache, unless file_girl has it auto installs it.
is there any directions or just go ahead with it??

Lord of the Rings February 10th, 2011 01:12 PM

I just tested it. Works flawlessly on Win XP. Some settings have been updated such as inclusions of file extensions used nowadays, eg: m4v etc. And no need to set to Ultrapeer this is now set by default.

Yes settings are stored in the BS Test folder. Cache inside the db folder. I'm not sure she included updated connection cache though, dates don't seem to suggest it. But mine connected without issue very quickly. I'll ask her about this. The plan was to include updated connection cache.

Lord of the Rings February 10th, 2011 01:24 PM

I repeated same process on Win 7 by uninstalling BS, deleting the start program, deleting the BS folder. Then installing the above version. BS is now working again on my Windows 7 & quickly connecting fine. :)

I'm not sure will need to ask File_Girl, but I'm guessing she edited the original connection cache file, not replaced it. Otherwise I'd doubt BS would connect so easily.

I guess potentially you could set up a test account on your computer, install the above version to test it for yourself.

I don't think I ever tried BS 5.2. What are the differences you know?
I am aware BS 5.1 beta does not have UPnP support.

awb555 February 10th, 2011 03:58 PM

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WORKS GREAT!!!
Connects every time within 10 sec. must run as administrator for the first time only. Dont need bearstart.
(theres a but).
Only shows 1 connections:
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should be above 16,000

Lord of the Rings February 10th, 2011 04:02 PM

Perhaps in time this will grow. For a start, usually the longer you leave a gnutella program running, the better it performs. One reason is it swaps ultrapeers now & again thus different access to other's files.

No, the bearstart equivalent runs differently & more silently & is called launcher. Its shortcuts are used on the start menu & desktop but using the BS Test name. This makes much more sense to do it like that & less confusing for users. :)

awb555 February 10th, 2011 04:28 PM

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Just tried your connection cache, only showed 1 connection. It was hit & miss.

Please give file_girl my best. Tell her a fantastic job!!
Edited:
P.S.
it sets the date back every time u run it .. needs a crack
when you set date forward and run again it says:Attachment 5515
then u must run as admin which take back again

awb555 February 10th, 2011 04:33 PM

are you saying to keep it running in the background/foreground?

awb555 February 10th, 2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 361895)

I don't think I ever tried BS 5.2. What are the differences you know?
I am aware BS 5.1 beta does not have UPnP support.

the only obvious difference between the Beta and 5.2, there is no chat and pro button,
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also no ultrapeer option.

Lord of the Rings February 10th, 2011 07:55 PM

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Potentially yes you can keep it running in background. But in general terms, the longer it runs the better it will be.

If the connection was fine from the beta, use that connection cache.

I just connected with BS Beta on Win 2000 & as usual it connected quickly. Snapshot below (I edited out ip addresses & host names for privacy.)
The no. beside the earth symbol I'm not even sure what it means. However the number to the left of it shows how many peers you are connected to. Mine shows 16, & the Host connection window verifies this as you can see below. :)

Attachment 5517

I'm often connected to more polish peers on Windows 2000, however it may depend on time of day.

I had not updated the cache I posted in the connection thread since last year. I've just posted a fresh choice a minute ago.

awb555 February 10th, 2011 08:41 PM

Thanks that was very informative. I will try the new cache. Any thoughts on the file_girl "date not changing back" like the beta you used?

Lord of the Rings February 10th, 2011 08:53 PM

I suspect the way File_Girl's program works, it does it silently; ie: no system warnings or warning messages. Likewise I did not see any on either Win XP or Win 7. She & I had been testing this new program over recent weeks. I didn't even get around to testing her last one from a few days ago. :o Including it in the overall installer for BS was the plan & she also used a different kind of installer for the entire BS package. She's done a great job. :xeri_ok1ani:

awb555 February 11th, 2011 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 361919)
I didn't even get around to testing her last one from a few days ago. :o Including it in the overall installer for BS was the plan & she also used a different kind of installer for the entire BS package. She's done a great job. :xeri_ok1ani:

so i tested it before you did?

:xirokrotima:yes she has done a :super:job!!!!
the ONLY issue i see is the time&date not changing back

Lord of the Rings February 11th, 2011 08:29 AM

I'm guessing we tested it about the same time. lol :D But I had not tested the last phase of her BS launcher before she put it into the installer with the BS program. She told me she did update the cache in the installer.

I didn't quite understand what you meant about the date until I checked. Win 7 was fine until I opened & closed a few times. I'll have a word to her about it.

Edit: It's funny you know. After BS has been closed for a period, the date goes back to 2011. Same thing with Win XP. However whilst BS is open, the date is 2005. I'm not sure if it's same for you? Because BS can take a couple mins to fully close after finishing writing backup files etc. during the closing process. After that the date returns to normal.

I guess this overcomes the computer system shock the previous BS Start created on some people's systems & security. I guess it depends if this date going back affects you at all in general terms of using your computer. Just hope you don't auto-date emails/letters rofl jk :D

awb555 February 11th, 2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 361927)
I'm guessing we tested it about the same time. lol :D But I had not tested the last phase of her BS launcher before she put it into the installer with the BS program. She told me she did update the cache in the installer.

I didn't quite understand what you meant about the date until I checked. Win 7 was fine until I opened & closed a few times. I'll have a word to her about it.

Edit: It's funny you know. After BS has been closed for a period, the date goes back to 2011. Same thing with Win XP. However whilst BS is open, the date is 2005. I'm not sure if it's same for you? Because BS can take a couple mins to fully close after finishing writing backup files etc. during the closing process. After that the date returns to normal.

I guess this overcomes the computer system shock the previous BS Start created on some people's systems & security. I guess it depends if this date going back affects you at all in general terms of using your computer. Just hope you don't auto-date emails/letters rofl jk :D

i closed the BS and 40mins later the date is still Jan 5th 2005.
im going to try the bearstart with file_girl BS version
Edited: ok that didnt work, lol.
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Lord of the Rings February 11th, 2011 04:20 PM

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In your settings, did you choose totally close BS or send to tray? By default, it sends BS to the tray. Check BS settings for this.
Not sure why mine goes back to normal time otherwise & yours doesn't.

Attachment 5523

awb555 February 11th, 2011 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 361935)
In your settings, did you choose totally close BS or send to tray? By default, it sends BS to the tray. Check BS settings for this.
Not sure why mine goes back to normal time otherwise & yours doesn't.

i always go through the setting (im not a noob lol).....;
to answer ur question though "yes to totally close" lol

awb555 February 12th, 2011 06:34 PM

any word from file_girl yet??

Lord of the Rings February 12th, 2011 11:24 PM

She said to try setting the BS Loader to run as Admin.

However I think this is more of a Win 7 issue. I've discovered my BS on XP actually does work fine with the date changing back to today's date soon after opening. Whereas on Windows 7 Pro it does change back but takes a lot longer (over a minute.)

Edit:
Quote:

Originally Posted by File_Girl71
I will say BS Test was never developt to run on Vista or Win 7 at all...I run BS Test on XP and works just fine.The best OS to use would be Win 2000 for run BS Test on! I guess when SP1 pack come for Win 7 I will think XP Suport would be better since MS get alot of critic for the XP suport in Win 7 today!


awb555 February 13th, 2011 07:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lord of the rings (Post 361957)
she said to try setting the bs loader to run as admin.

However i think this is more of a win 7 issue. I've discovered my bs on xp actually does work fine with the date changing back to today's date soon after opening. Whereas on windows 7 pro it does change back but takes a lot longer (over a minute.)

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i waited over 30 minutes lol

Lord of the Rings February 13th, 2011 12:27 PM

Oh well, perhaps after Win 7 SP1 is released it will hopefully fix it. As File_Girl suggested, it's been well reported Win 7's XP support is lacking.
An alternative of course is in meantime to go back to the other start program, BearStart. ;)

Oh the image you provided showed as BS Test, did you also give the Launcher program Admin privileges (ie: both BS Test & Launcher)? That lack of admin permission might be what's stopping the time reverting. After all, it's the Launcher program that's not fully doing its job as it should be with the date.

I don't suppose you experimented with compatibility options for the Launcher program, 'might' be worth trying but just a last shot option in meantime I guess.
Not sure why it works ok on my Win 7, yes slow to revert the date back but it does work. I presume it's set to 32 bit or 64? Another option perhaps to swap around. In fact perhaps parts running as 32 bit are the issue. Win 7 not handling them properly.

awb555 February 13th, 2011 04:23 PM

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There is not a BS Launcher, only a BS Loader that I have found. Both are marked as administrator. Iím guessing loader and launcher are one in the same? You said that file_girl made several different versions of BS Ė Could you kindly send them to me? Iím sorry to keep bothering you, I appreciate the help.Attachment 5531

Lord of the Rings February 13th, 2011 08:31 PM

BSLoader is what I meant. You can ask her yourself. :D I don't run windows all the time so I don't always have it in front of me to remember. I'm primarily a mac person.
If it's not working on your system, it's not working. File_Girl suggested the most probable reason.

brazenkitsch February 14th, 2011 01:08 AM

hi can someone please run me thru the steps of, and i'm not even sure this is right, but, "updating my host cache" or whatever that is. i used to be able to connect to bearshare all the time using 5.2.5. all of a sudden it won't connect at all and its been a few weeks now. i'm assuming it has something to do with this cache thing from what i've read from other posts. i'm just really super computer illiterate and wouldn't know where to begin doing anything like that. any help you can give me with this is greatly appreciated.

Lord of the Rings February 14th, 2011 07:09 AM

See step 2 here http://www.gnutellaforums.com/host-c...bearshare.html & there are connection cache attachments at bottom of the post. :) Step 2 includes a gif animation to show what to do. :) If still connection problems, try installing the Beta version.5.1 listed at top of that page.

awb555 February 22nd, 2011 08:34 PM

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Windows 7 SP1 is out as of tonight:
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