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sdsalsero March 14th, 2003 06:55 PM

2.9.4 alpha not "PRO"
 
I've been running the 2.9.2-alpha, then 2.9.3 and now the 2.9.4 versions of LW PRO, but the latest copy -- which I downloaded from the "Beta" link on my PRO download page -- bugs me about Bonzi Buddy and LimeShop. It also asks me to upgrade to PRO on first run.

trap_jaw March 15th, 2003 01:21 AM

Looks like somebody at LimeWire mixed up the installers...

stief March 15th, 2003 05:34 AM

I just installed 2.9.4 Pro after a "complete" uninstall. New "About Limewire" says 2.9.3 Pro--no ads.

Trap_jaw, what does the ".com.zerog.registry" do?

Juggalo15 March 15th, 2003 06:31 AM

You will learn to check the installer before you install. Thay have done that before and one time instead of putting up the english Limewire pro they put up the multilingual one on all the links.

Edit:Also I just checked it out and it says Limewire Pro 2.9.4 and yet the english windows installer is for 2.9.3. This is on the pro page. Yet I believe the reagular page has been changed....I would think the paying customers would come first no?

trap_jaw March 15th, 2003 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stief
I just installed 2.9.4 Pro after a "complete" uninstall. New "About Limewire" says 2.9.3 Pro--no ads.

Trap_jaw, what does the ".com.zerog.registry" do?

That's something the Zero-G installer saved. I really don't know for sure what it is but it's definitely not vital for LimeWire or the installer software.

trap_jaw March 15th, 2003 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Juggalo15
You will learn to check the installer before you install. Thay have done that before and one time instead of putting up the english Limewire pro they put up the multilingual one on all the links.

Edit:Also I just checked it out and it says Limewire Pro 2.9.4 and yet the english windows installer is for 2.9.3. This is on the pro page. Yet I believe the reagular page has been changed....I would think the paying customers would come first no?

The build process itself is more or less automated. The new installers (PRO and free version) will be created and copied to the servers after each build. - The websites are not updated automagically so the version numbers on the websites (as you might have noticed) are not always accurate. It also requires a manual intervention to update the links to point to the right installers so they might lead you to the wrong location if one of the LimeWire developers was a little careless when quickly creating a new version before leaving for the week-end.

sdsalsero March 15th, 2003 08:27 AM

I think it's fixed now...
 
I just re-downloaded the 2.9.4-PRO alpha and it's a different filesize than the original copy I downloaded. I haven't installed it yet but I'm assuming it's correctly the "PRO" version.

stief March 15th, 2003 08:38 AM

Thanks Juggalo. Where do you check for versions?
http://www9.limewire.com/beta/LimeWireOSX.zip 4,197,564 bytes
http://sales.limewire.com/[pro page yada yada]/beta/ 4,194.939 bytes (too, lists "MacOSX 3.3mb")

tried to follow your footer links, trap_jaw, but couldn't see an OSX version. Still, thanks for the info. If I'm reading core cvs mailings correctly, this alpha is mostly about changes to error messages?

sdsalsero, did you ever find out about changelogs, or where to look?

trap_jaw March 15th, 2003 09:43 AM

The changes to the error messages were in the less-questions-branch not in the main-branch. The changes include a fix for two minor bugs and a problem causing LimeWire to parse BearShare's query hits incorrectly so they would be displayed as one-star results when they actually should be two, three or four star results.

stief March 15th, 2003 10:12 AM

Ah, OK. I'll learn to watch for "branch" in the logs.
BTW, 2.9.3 Pro (I haven't been able to get 2.9.4 Pro) went into Ultrapeer mode ~20 mins ago, with no problem, so last week's problem looks to be fixed here. The big difference I now note is that in leaf, Connections Dropped(I/O) would usually show>90%, but in Ultrapeer that stat shows < 25%. In leaf, most of the vendors were LW and the Acq .8*'s; in Ultrapeer I'm seeing mostly BearShare. I'm expecting Ultrapeer to drop because of my NAT.

sdsalsero March 15th, 2003 10:44 AM

oops, still no 2.9.4 Pro !
 
I just checked my 2.9.4-alpha "PRO" download and it's actually the 2.9.3 version. So I still don't have 2.9.4-alpha Pro (and I'm back to running 2.9.3 . . . )

gbildson March 15th, 2003 12:06 PM

Sorry guys. I accidentally uploaded the free beta installers to PRO. I then rolled back to 2.9.3 until I can upload the correct 2.9.4 ones.

They are alpha/beta. Expect a few mistakes.

Thanks
-greg

stief March 15th, 2003 01:01 PM

Greg, thanks for the update. I'd like to try more with magnets--can we get our alpha pro's through an emailed magnet?

(and a changelog . . .?)

gbildson March 15th, 2003 01:13 PM

Well, the alpha pros are not on the network unless someone left the right version running in the office so a Magnet link wouldn't work at the moment. (Oh and PROs don't share their installer)

Thanks
-greg

stief March 15th, 2003 01:27 PM

I thought maybe so. Still, thought this might be good test of somewhat secure p2p. If you could do this with LW, other software vendors might be intriged. Thanks for the quick reply.

Ummm ... is changelog a bad word?

trap_jaw March 15th, 2003 02:45 PM

What do you mean by 'secure'?

stief March 15th, 2003 03:14 PM

Hmmm. Secure enough that LW will trust that Pro users get their pro versions? At least as secure (not very) as the current "individual" web page.

btw-LW 2.9.3 Pro has lasted fine in Ultrapeer for 5 1/2 hrs without a problem; only a BearShare 4.2.4 has stayed beyond an hour.

trap_jaw March 15th, 2003 04:32 PM

I'm sure you could do the downloads via LimeWire - but what would it
accomplish. You don't really want the LimeWire PRO versions to be
shared throughout the network, do you?

About the ultrapeers connections: Some ultrapeer connections will last
several hours with the new version (as with older versions) but
unfortunately connections in Gnutella are not very stable. - That is
something that might change when more users upgrade and the load on
the ultrapeer connections can be reduced.

Spinner March 16th, 2003 08:17 PM

Trapjaw: Your download link in sig has been pointing to the wrong page for a few weeks now. =)

stief March 16th, 2003 11:07 PM

?? tj's sig was new < 2 days ago.

Re the ultrapeers, I was pleasantly suprised to see them lasting a few hours this weekend. I'll take that as a sign the network is looking better already. I was also heartened by the idea that even if I can't share effectively from behind my NAT, I can help as an Ultrapeer to extend someone's horizon: the fan kicked in on my laptop (very rare), so I hope the processor was working to deal with the high traffic noted in the connections (and without really hindering my web access).
Still don't know why 2.9.3 should show more BearShare Ultrapeers than I've seen before.

As for magnets being used to deliver somewhat secured software through the gnutella net, I'm sure delivering it to a non-shared folder is the least of the problems (even if identified alphas are not likely to be popular or long lasting). Isn't one of the attractions of gnutella the potential to deliver large files to specific individuals?

gnutellafan March 18th, 2003 06:19 PM

W/ BS most of my UPs are usually over 24hrs old, w/ 2 or 3 more than 40 or 50 hrs old. I leave my BS running 24/7

trap_jaw March 19th, 2003 03:33 AM

1) ultrapeers:
2.9.x stopped preferencing LimeWire ultrapeers.

2) magnets:
The gnutella network as it is at the moment does not allow secure transfers to a specific group of users. All shared files are made available to the public, so you cannot verify the user downloading a PRO installer is really a PRO user.


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