LimeWire 3.9.3 Beta
 

The LimeWire 3.9.3 beta is released, with the pro version available from a link on your Pro download page, and the free version available from the LimeWire download page.

Changes in 3.9.3 include:
- ID3v2 support!
- Redesigned themes, and a brand new search interface!
- Renamed 'Community Search' to "What's New".
- Icons showing if a search result is already saved, already downloading, or already partially downloaded.
- Support for displaying file-type icons on Windows with Java 1.3.
- Support for browse-hosting people connected to you. (Just double-click on the line in the Connections tab!)
- Automatic recovery of corrupt files. This uses the "Tree Hash EXchange Protocol" (THEX). Contributions from Gregorio Roper & Philippe Verdy were used for this.
- Automatic preferencing for peers with a similiar locale. This means that Japanese users will tend to connect to other Japanese users, or French users will tend to connect to other French users, etc...
- Much faster startup times (on 'loading core components').
- Power Management. When LimeWire is in the background, it will consume less resources & bandwidth so that you can use other programs with no delays.
- Fixed international Windows installer.
- Fixed problems where a file would endlessly download with no change in progress, submitted by Gregorio Roper.
- Full HTTP & SOCKS proxy support, originally submitted by Gregorio Roper.
- Support for running alongside programs that install incompatable java libraries.
- Various bug fixes and optimizations, submitted by Roger Kapsi, Philippe Verdy and Jens-Uwe Mager.

... and even more features, optimizations, and overall goodness are coming in future betas!

LimeWire is keeping it's place as a top-notch program available on all platforms, thanks to open source contributions and beta testers.

Please keep us informed on what you like & dislike with this new beta!

Thanks,
- The LimeWire Team

Skins
 

The change in the black skin makes it *VERY* hard to see the progress of anything being downloaded or uploaded in LimeWire 3.9.3 beta without first highlighting it or without increasing the brightness/gamma of my monitor to some insane levels that make everything else too bright.

Ok I am far from the most computer literate person around. So please bare with me and if any help is available it would be greatly appreciated. I am getting like 1 kbps or 0 kbps download rates. Im running on win xp 1.81GHz processor and 224 Mb of RAM. My IP is reading 10.118.5.**. At least thats what I found lol. Now I read in another topic.. That an IP that starts out in 10 tends to get blocked alot? I dunno Im feeling like an idiot at the moment because I dont know how to fix this problem. (and Im a daily blonde moment kinda chick) So please help if you can. I appreciate it. oh Im also running the 3.9.3 Beta version if that wasnt horribly obvious?

Danie

Well congrats to all once again--and thanks for the clear changelog Sam. Looks like you are challenging the tech writers :p

[silentmusings: see if this helps http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=24950 ]

So much to say, so little space, but overall this looks to show that LW's development plans are really working well.

THEX seems to work well (hard to say since it's one of those invisible fixes. Still, I tried downloading large videos that used to trigger corrupt messages, but so far no go, which is good). What will you kickstart next trap_jaw?

Speaking of open sourcers, when will the Open Source Hall of Fame be updated? I keep checking to see when (if?) Jens-Uwe, Roger, and the Unknown Coders will be listed on http://www.limewire.org/

re search filters: I don't like the loss of real estate the left panel takes, but I'm finding it indispensible. Especially when browsing through the "what's new" results, the ability to quickly sort 100's of entries is habit-forming. I rarely minimize the left panel anymore, so it's habit forming, and the What's New button is depressingly addictive. I guess this feature will be quickly copied by the spam outfits.

re themes:
In both OS 10.2 and 10.3, the arrow that collapses multiple sources doesn't show in the OSX theme. Switching to the default theme and back to the OSX theme makes it reappear, but a "repeat search" loses the arrow again.

btw, which are the themes with the OSX (not Windows look-and-feel) menu bar? I was afraid to try too many in case they burned out my screen or triggered flashbacks. Perhaps the themes could be classified further under something like "Style"?

i.e
Discreet
Conservative
Fruity
Psychodelic
sk8tRz
Geocitiies

other topics for later:
-can't browse Acquisition connections
-font size needs to be also reduced in stats
-new incomplete/download icons are confused by an unshared download folder
-Shareaza Peer displays vendor as code (?) when browsed
-Example bug report updates/readings
-Greg's contributions?
-new splash screen sadly 2D
-yada yada yada

Cheers

I like the new splash screen, very classy. I like the new search filter and the fact that you can change the filters as you want with the little left circle. I also like being able to browse you UP and leaves connections.

The thing that still bothers me is the gui slowdown when you've been running LW for more than a day, the interface becomes very sluggish. I don't know if being an UP as I'm now makes the situation worst.

Congrats, LW 4.0 is shaping to be the best P2P client bar none.:)

Having THEX is a good but I believe you'll have to wait until more people have upgraded to see the real improvements.
At the moment I am looking at the chat code. I would like to add a buddy list and a distributed chat room feature, - but I don't know if it's going to work.

Yeah! Can we have an open source hall of fame, please?


That's Acquisition's fault/feature.

I'm not so sure. I've reporting this bug in the monitor tab a couple of times also . It happens with every other client than LW like shareaza, bearshare etc... even if they support browse host in the search window.

Ciao

update--I finally browsed two Acq's (ver 107.2 and 105.3). Most of the time though, double-clicking an Acq that shows QRP% >0 opens an IP tab in the search pane but no search results ever show. Other non-browsable hosts either show the "Cannot browse" dialog or else start the IPtab then close it quickly.

I'm seeing far fewer Acq's: Usually there are 8-10, but now both machines (UP) show only 2 on each. Did the limits on non-LW connections change, and is Acq now counted as a non-LW vendor?

Acqx is a non LW in 3.9.3 but it happened before in many betas and even full release versions... it might be a bug, I don't know, but it's not the first time it is like that. Not that I care of.

À stief, Dave never answered my PM....

Edit: its in the upload window I cant browse hosts from vendor other than LW, just to make it clearer.

Did a quick switch back to jum207, and le voilà (there's also a Bear 4.4.3.4 inc. Peer not shown). Was only able to browse on of the RAZA's and one of the Acqx's (altogether--a measly 28 files in total). LOL--looks like leechers like my machine.

Anyone want a reciprocity option? Preference connections based on browsability rather than vendor. I let you browse me, and v versa.

[figures that the PM went unaswered, and I noticed another request to turn off browse host on the acqx forums. ]

Scattered replies...

Re: Black Skin
We'll look into this. Note that the only themes updated right now are "Black", "Classic [old Default]", "Default [new]", "Default OSX", "LimeWire Pro", and "Windows". The others are all updated, but will be released on the website. We're contemplating adding a small message that informs the user they're running an out-of-date version of the theme, offering an upgrade.

Re: limewire.org
It's on the list of things to do... We're all very busy with the 4.0 release, trying to tie up loose ends and all that. Unfortunately, updating the .org site is not high on the list of required things for 4.0. It'll be done, though.

Re: arrows for multiple sources
Don't get too attached to these. The tree-ness of the search results is a major factor in the UI slowdown when results come pouring in. This is being looked at right now, with the goal in mind of fixing it before 4.0. (There _will_ still be a way to see the other sources, just not as easily.)

Re: Themes with the OSX menu bars
Only the "Default OSX Theme". Apple doesn't allow any way to make those menu bars on other themes.

Re: Slow UI after a day
Does this happen consistently? Try disabling Ultrapeer -- does it still get slow after a day? Not sure what could be causing this.

Re: Open Source Hall Of Fame
Perhaps. ;)

[some more things I missed]

Re: New icons
There are known issues with the icons right now -- namely, they don't update when the state changes (like the download finishing or being killed). This is slotted to be fixed before 4.0.

Re: "Shareaza peer displays vendor as code when browsed"
Can you clarify? Not sure what this means.

Re: Greg's contributions.
You mean Greg Bildson? We're all hoping this UDP stuff will make it in. We'll see.

Re: Splash screen 2D
Which theme?

Thanks,
Sam

Thanks for the reply and info Sam

Ah--the arrows! That explains some 'gui freezes' when a results from a 3000 shares host is loading. I'd thought it was because of memory swapping (vocab?). It's good the arrow function will still be available (I use them to see who else is sharing one of the files shared by my other computer). btw--the power management looks to be working. A few quick checks now show ~10% CPU use here: I used to expect 50-70%.

re the icons (I like! Please have them also reflect the contents of an UNshared download folder). Also, attempting a download of a file already in my UNshared download folder creates a "red" file in the Incomplete folder despite cancelling the download via the proper dialog that pops up. I have to manually delete the 0KB file or it triggers the 'incomplete' icon on subsequent searches. btw--magnets don't trigger the " overwrite existing . . .?" message ( I have to delete it from my unshared download folder before I can download a test magnet).

--I do hope the open source credits/Hall of Fame gets to be a priority. None of my business, but since they eschew the fortune, they deserve the fame. [pompous analogy]Even paid coders deserve recognition, and they need a predictable payday. The changelogs are like screen credits after a movie--boring for many but much appreciated by those who care. Film stars need their annual Academy Awards?[/PA]

--the splash screen (Aubrey's?) is the new one that shows when LimeWire is starting up. It looks two-dimensional to me, much like the graphics I saw before monitor resolutions could handle thousands or millions of colours. Not important--just a passing impression.

--Yes--gbildson. I wondered at all his code entries. Saw words like COBS and UDP, which reminded me of the GDF. I idly speculated maybe LW was going to do like Vinnie and be able to flip a bit and allow 150,000 less or lots more leafs to connect. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_gdf/message/19579

--Double-clicked a Shareaza 1.8.9.17 incoming leaf (not peer--my mistake) which displayed in the vendor column of the search results as follows:

Again--thanks and congrats on this beta. I think et voilà is prophetic!

(I'm back to the official beta, and now NO acqx in connections)

Re: the gui slowdown
It doesn't matter that I'm UP or not while being UP might create the problem earlier... It happens when I've uploaded near 2 gigs so maybe a little more than 24 hours. Can this be caused by the virtual memory used? Yesterday when it was slow LW was using in process viewer 150MB of ram and 600MG of virtual memory. Can Stief can confirm the slow gui isssue or lots of mem usage? (It doesn't matter which them I'm using).

Edit: the weird caracters in vendor column, this also happens in search results and this happens for a variety of vendors (LW, BS, RAZA etc) I first reported this bug to Adam in the 3.7 beta series.

I agree, there seems to be some kind of memory leak somewhere. But I don't think it's directly related to the GUI slowdown.

I never saw those, - all I see is Xolox' strange vendor codes.

hi guys. I've seen various slowdowns, but usually figured they were user related (like browsing a host who shares >3k files; resolving a page of IP's in connections; screen redraw delay after monitor is waking up; or after switching among Admin users). Can someone propose a test we could run, or at least an "area" of focus?

et voilà--those memory use numbers sound like what I've usually seen--they aren't normal?

By GUI slowdowns I mean switching tabs (ie from search to monitor, etc). Options switching become slow, stats swithching too. BTW I'm now running UP with 85MG of ram, so I wonder why it should go up to 150MG over time if there is no memory leaks. Maybe my becoming old computer of 2000 is one factor for the GUI, but I think it is related either to a bug in LW or in the Apple implementation of java 1.4.2. If it is os x only, this is definitly Apple's fault.

Ciao

media
 

the internal media player still skips

i just use winamp but it would b nice to have the other one actually work

That skipping could be caused by many things...

Other apps demanding high processor time causing conflicts
Fragmented HDD
Sound card problems (NO matter how much it may have cost !!!)
etc.,etc. !

media
 

it mostly skips when u start a search or a download

Yeah, the internal player is a CPU hog (comparitively to native players). It shouldn't be skipping on low bitrate files in general (which used to be the case). If you are using a lot of CPU though, the internal player will chug - we are actually trying to decrease the CPU usage of searching, it is WAY too high right now.

hey, I remember M.O. came out with a seekable internel player...he said he submitted it to you(limewire devs) Do you see it possible in 3.9 future releases?