I'm sorry to hear that you are not interested in a developer forum outside the_GDF.
For sure there are more highly skilled coders and network specialists which will not find a way to the GDF and therefor wasted. Do not expect a high amount of hits there and on the Limewire pages only. I personally are to busy to code my own client and don't want to participate at one special client, yet. However good luck with your research projects! Please post any documentation also outside Limewire and the_GDF.

PS: Please tell Vinnie not to change subjects without notice in the GDF, sometimes it's hard to follow threads. Someone will kill me for that notice yet. :)

Greets, Moak

Hi afisk!

No time?

There are developers having time to post useless threads!

But having no time to read a forum for improvements?

Ok all talented programmers know it is wasted time to think about Gnutella improvements, if you don´t want to hear them!

Morgwen

Hi Afisk,
yep I completely agree in this points! Thx for your feedback and I hope we find a bigger gnutella developer community to improve Gnutella and give ideas/concepts to the client developer! I also know that client programming needs a lot of time. So long, happy coding! Greets, Moak :)

Morgwen-

I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. The client developers work very hard, and we basically participate in these forums whenever we have a chance.

Moak-

I too hope the Gnutella community expands and incorporates the many creative ideas of people like yourself to make the network as strong as possible. Are you working on a cleint? If you get a chance and haven't already, you might want to check out the source at limewire.org. It's meant partly as a reference implementation for other clients, so the code is very well commented with nice, complete javadocs.

Thanks for your work on all of this.

Hi afisk!

May be my post was a little to offensive!

But my point is!

There are many developers who work on Gnutella improvements, they are working also very hard for it!

So if you have only one or two hours a week to read this forum and comment the best ideas, it would help all people (you too!).

Not only the client developers are working hard for Gnutella!

All people who give people support for your products are working hard as well, please don´t forget this!

Morgwen

Morgwen-

I think I misinterpreted your message a bit. I did not mean in any way to discount the efforts of everyone involved in the Gnutella community. We all very much benefit from the hard work of people like yourself, and the client developers benefit a great deal from this larger community as well.

Hopefully we can all continue to work together to make the Gnutella protocol the web standard that we all hope it can become (it is now, to some extent but it could go much further)!

I've just skimmed through this thread and thought would it be feasible to implement a subsupernode feature in the normal LimeWire program.

The idea is that some of the ppl with 24/7 internet access might want to support the Gnutella network by appointing all available bandwidth to search queries and other Gnutella related network traffic when they're not downloading/uploading or sharing files.

Could this be an idea? Currently I'm on a ADSL 256/128 Up/Down line ,and I wouldnt mind letting LimeWire pass messages back and forth while I'm sleeping not at home i.e. not using the computer.

Idea?

That's definitely an interesting idea. The only problem here is that bandwidth is not typically the constraint on supernodes. The number of TCP/IP connections the machine can handle is more typically the bottleneck. In fact, supernodes need to devote surprisingly little bandwidth to messages -- not much more that normal nodes had to devote to bandwidth prior to the supernode implementation.

So, while this is an interesting and creative idea, it solves a problem that is thankfully not really there!

Thanks.

Hi afisk!

Trying to download the supernode beta with the mentioned link it always displays me the current 1.8c beta...

What is wrong?

Is the link incorrect?

Morgwen

Actually, that was just our general beta page, which was replaced by the 1.8c beta. The supernode beta is pretty much obsolete now, but it's code (a much improved version actually) will be included in the LimeWire 1.9 beta that is do out within the next week.

The supernode beta also had a built-in timer that should have timed it out by now as well.

Thanks.