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Old December 15th, 2001
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Angry Warrning! More Spyware In 1.9b

WATCH OUT!
1.9B INSTALL SOME PROGRAMS W/O ASKING INTO:
C:\PROGRAM FILES\ADS...SOME STUPID GAME WHICH CRASHED ON START UP :-\
C:\PROGRAM FILES\CLICKTILLUWIN
C:\WINDOWS\dlder.exe
STILL SAME CYDOOR
BUNCH OF PLACES IN REGISTRY..I WASN'T FAST ENOUGH TO RECORD THEM.
SOME MORE FILES IN NT PROFILE, WINDOWS DIR AND PROGRAM FILES!
AT LEAST 5 ICONS ON DESKTOP!!

NO MATTER HOW GOOD FEATURES OF LIMEWIRE IS, THEIR BLATANT DISREGARD FOR USER PRIVACY AND WISHES IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE!

yes you need to pay for development, but so is every other developer. yet i don't see so much spyware("adware") being SHOVED down user's thoat.

UNLESS YOU DON'T MIND ALL THAT SPYWARE ON YOUR SYSTEM, STAY AWAY FROM LIMEWIRE UNTILL THEY SHAPE UP
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Old December 15th, 2001
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Get over it. That's the way it is. If you don't like it - don't use it.
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Old December 15th, 2001
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That’s not the point. LM should let one know before they download.
I don't mind banners etc. but I like to make the decision up front.
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As we've covered quite a few times now, Cydoor is simply an ad-engine -- it does not collect any information about you or invade your privacy. "Click Till You Win" is a lottery game -- it also does not collect information about you.

Every other major file sharing application installs similar programs on your computer and/or displays ads -- until a couple of months ago LimeWire was the one major program that didn't. Many include far more bundled software than LimeWire. I also urge you to keep in mind that these programs are free, so we do need some way to make money to continue development.

So, I understand your concern, but please be aware that LimeWire does not install any programs that collect information about you (i.e. Gator and TopText) without asking you first.

Other alternatives should also soon be available.

Thanks.

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Old December 16th, 2001
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The ads really don't bother me personnaly. Of course, I'd rather they were not there but, there's obviously nothing any of us can do about it now. As long as LimeWire isn't tracking what websites I'm visiting, and selling that information to another company, I'll stay happy with the program. I've seen repeated posts with people flying off the handle about LimeWire installing spyware, then a moderator or developer says, " Hey, it's just some ads, no spyware." The issue stays mute until a new release comes out, and then the same person just flips out all over again. I don't know if people are expecting LimeWire to get rid of the ads or something but, it's obviously a neccasary evil. As far as the spyware, LimeWire reps have repeatedly said there is none so, no problem right? Unless someone has proof that LimeWire is selling personal information to some other company I think the issue is closed.
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Old December 16th, 2001
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yes, other programs bondle even more stuff.
but look at bearshare, they give you CHOICES. they are not forcing spyware(fine, "adware") down your throat.
and especially they don't install anything without letting user know about it and making it very clear or ****ting on my desktop w/ stupid icons.
i really do not appreciate that.
i wouldn't know about all that extra crap if i wasn't monitoring limewire install with CleanSweep.
i still rip out all cydoor and other spyware guts and remove all stupid icons. so why not make it easier and GIVE BLOODY OPTION not to install it?

this is my 2nd post on this forum.
spyware issue comes up with each release because people think that LimeDev are listening to users on their concerns...but apparently they are not...

when i install a program i expect to get what i downloaded, not a "pleasant" surprise of "adware" stuff all over my computer.

i know i won't be installing 1.9c or perhaps any version until i know that limewire won't do same trick again.
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There is really too much spy/ad/crap ware bundled with LimeWire. I think the last beta set a record by itself regarding how much third part. software one can bundle with their application. Bearshare is really bs, gator is regarded as spyware by the industry and as very intrusive software by the publicity industry on the net (it superimpose new pub on top of the pubs you watch on a given site, all this driven by keywords). The other crap 'clicktilluwin' is another contest scheme, wich is considered illegal in some part of Canada (Esp. in Quebec). I don't know for other coutries.

Anyways, the software itself is better than the previous versions.


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Well, but Adam said that tose programs are just ads delivery engine... So let's find out how to confirm this. Personally I think Adam is sincere saying this, but I don't know if it is really the truth, since some webmasters think really different about Cydoor.
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Old December 18th, 2001
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Additionally, LW beta 2.0 is installing Aureate in my system folder. Ii didn't see any messages, warnings, or options for this in the installation. Am I missing something?

(I don't what I'd do without adware)
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oh common, did you really expect anything less from our favorite developers?

don't be surprised if next version will come bondeled with gator and even more spyware...i mean they need money, and spyware pays good money for selling out.
 


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