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bloodbob June 13th, 2002 09:39 AM

Morpheus Breaking the GPL.
 
Okay folks here is the story from my point of view.

Morpheus release intial preview version a while ago ripping off all swabby's work on the Gnucleus Project and adding spy ect. They include the GPL doco but they forgot to release the source a few days later they released the near source.

Just a few days ago Morpheus releases the preview version 1.9 I assume as sort of a beta for 2.0.

Morpheus doesn't not attach the GPL there by breaking it.

Morpheus doesn't release the source.

A couple days later they release 1/2 the source the missing bits of course are the new bits.

Today day the release a New source which nearly compiles. This source of course is not at all morpheus they changed the icons and thats about it and they expect the community to believe its the "Real" source.

I personal suggest that all developers try to ban morpheus' clients from the network but that is my opion.

Gamer June 13th, 2002 09:45 AM

I noticed that myself.. Was also nice of them not to include the resources

bloodbob June 13th, 2002 09:46 AM

Actually legally they don't that is copywrited data if you download the first version of the 1.9 source they include most of the images.

Gamer June 13th, 2002 10:29 AM

it wouldnt be the first network morpheus was banned from if it happens tho.. Who knows where they'll leech next..

Morpheus - Stealing an opensource client near you!

Unregistered June 13th, 2002 12:23 PM

i dont care i just want my files

Unregistered June 13th, 2002 04:05 PM

who cares, morpheus is brining in a large user base

all we should try and do is teach people that gnucleus is better and they should ditch morpheus...

try putting a text file or html file up on gnutella that says

WHY MORPHEUS SUX.tx

or

GNUCLEUS IS BETTER THAN MORPHEUS.txt

lol, well somehow we need to convey the knowledge

Unregistered June 13th, 2002 04:12 PM

no no, you have to name it

sex-porn-nasty-naked-things-you-arent-suposto-know-read-me-now.txt

Ashitaka June 13th, 2002 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
i dont care i just want my files
Go back to your cave, leech.

Paradog June 14th, 2002 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ashitaka


Go back to your cave, leech.

GNUTELLA is an idea!
It is free and it should remain free.
Those guys from Gnucleus worked hard to publish
a good and free client.
Then a greedy corporation named Morpheus comes
and steals the code. Because most people know Morpheus
but not Gnucleus they think: "Hey that app is great!"

Sad world

Taliban June 14th, 2002 05:56 AM

Gnucleus is just a temporary solution for Streamcast. Morpheus 2.0 will be a coproduction fo Streamcast and Rebol and it will probably not contain any Gnucleus code.

Paradog June 14th, 2002 05:58 AM

Well thats a fair solution :)

bloodbob June 14th, 2002 08:25 AM

I find that hard to believe they have already been using the Gnucleus client for 3 months and that still no excuse.

If I stole you artwork I stuck it in my picture frame and got money from a gallery to display it for over 3 months and then I decided to do my own artwork and chuck yours away later would you mind?

Paradog June 14th, 2002 09:25 AM

Thats GPL.
Its allowed, BUT you have to include the GPL AND include the sourcecode.
But since the new version doesnt include these things its quite... :eek:

Vinnie June 14th, 2002 07:41 PM

Jeez
 
Give them a break, they just took one in the groin from Kazaa.

They are probably disorganized, working long hours, and reeling from the recent blow.

Considering that they are making efforts to comply, I would just chalk it up as a low priority item.

They release, then they clean up the source code and make it presentable over a few iterations.

Now if this went on for months, there might be a problem.

I think Morpheus is an interesting case - this is the first time a commercial entity adopted an open source product and brought with it a user base of millions.

Unregistered June 14th, 2002 11:01 PM

Easy way to tell Morph users about Gnucleus
 
In Gnucleus and Morpheus you can send the folder/directory name with the result. I've already seen someone who put all their shared files and folders inside a root share folder called

"Morpheus users - Gnucleus is Morpheus with no spyware"

That way morph users will see the message in every hit.

Unregistered June 15th, 2002 02:54 PM

Someone make a song.mp3 about this while adding some comedy or nasty words and a mpg with a naked dancing girl so they will pay attention.
You have to understand the IQ level of people who don't already know that morpheus is a rip off of gnucleus.
If you could print this message on beer cans, that might help too.

backmann June 15th, 2002 03:37 PM

There are a lot of people that downloaded Morpheus because:

a. They downloaded it because of the name
b. They came from the old Morpheus.

These people know very little of Gnutella and maybe haven't even heard of Gnucleus.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Unregistered June 15th, 2002 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by backmann
These people know very little of Gnutella and maybe haven't even heard of Gnucleus.
And so their new score is IQ = IQ - 10
It's sort of like walking down a dark alley in a place you don't know. Not a smart thing to do when all the information is easy to find.

Taliban June 15th, 2002 05:10 PM

Most Morpheus users are still hoping for the real thing which is coming in two weeks (as their website says ;-) and have no intention of using gnucleus.

Gamer June 24th, 2002 02:45 PM

morpheus 2 was supposed to be out months ago --- about the same time they got kicked off fasttrack

Unregistered July 30th, 2002 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
And so their new score is IQ = IQ - 10
It's sort of like walking down a dark alley in a place you don't know. Not a smart thing to do when all the information is easy to find.

No, in fact, quite the opposite from the Morpheus users' point of view: We know what we had (nice and bright), and we want it to stay that way, hence we continue to choose Morpheus. The information is easy to find if you know where to look, AND that you are supposed to look for it.

Now that I have been informed (by accident) about Gnucleus, I have already chosen to switch.

This does NOT mean that my IQ have changed during the process, it simply means that most people continue to use things as long as they work for them. Morpheus still do for most people... How it is developed and wether it conformes to GPL is of no interest to the average user, I am sad to say...


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