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Old April 28th, 2002
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Default How about showing us the Ping

I don't know if I am falling behind the technology but it seems like EVERYONE's got a T1 or T3 these days, frankly I don't believe that and I don't quite understand why would a person click T1 or T3 while he/she's only got a 56k?

those connection type means nothing to us, how about replace it with the ping? so I don't try to download from a "T3" wannabe with ping in the thousands
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Old April 28th, 2002
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In TCP/IP, a ping only measures the amount of time it takes for a signal to travel from source to destination. It doesn't reveal anything about the speed of the destination. I could get a ping of 50ms from someone with a 56K modem who could theoretically be living right next door to me. Likewise, I could get a 1000ms ping from someone with a T3 who is 5000 miles away from me. In either case, the ping doesn't tell me the speed of the person's connection. I, for one, wouldn't appreciate starting a download from a source with a really low ping (like 50 to 100ms) only to find that they're running a 56k modem.
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I don't know why those generic speed descriptions are used at all. It would make more sense for LimeWire to actually measure your average upload speed and advertise it in KB/s.
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I know exactly what "ping" is, you are right, but I think it's still better than just a "cnonection type" that users select by themselves
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I know exactly what "ping" is, you are right, but I think it's still better than just a "cnonection type" that users select by themselves
Like SJF said.

Ping has nothing to do with speed. I'm too busy to explain at the moment.

All i have to say is, if you download from a user on 28.8k modem with a ping of 10, it will be lots slower than the T3 user with a ping of 7800.

(Lower ping = better, btw).
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... ping is the time it takes for a package travel from a to b and back to a. lower ping does not indicate better connection type.
but correct me if I am wrong, a cable/DSL user is "LIKELY" to have lower ping than a dial-up, right?
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Ping has nothing to do with speed. I'm too busy to explain at the moment.

All i have to say is, if you download from a user on 28.8k modem with a ping of 10, it will be lots slower than the T3 user with a ping of 7800.

That's exactly what I am talking about, I want to see ping and I don't care about their connection types. They can all be T3 if that boosts their ego, all I care to see is the ping. I think that's what I said in the first post, if I didn't make myself clear.. sorry about that.
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Old May 1st, 2002
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sounds like you're on to something. it does me no good when i choose to download something from a T1 or T3 connection and the transfer rate is 2.0 kb/s!! what a waste

also, what happened to the ip address field. i liked seeing whether soemone was behind a firewall or not
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... ping is the time it takes for a package travel from a to b and back to a. lower ping does not indicate better connection type.
but correct me if I am wrong, a cable/DSL user is "LIKELY" to have lower ping than a dial-up, right?
Correct, both times.

(Had one minute left of class, sorry for not being able to explain any further.)

Tx users can send -much- more data at any given time than a 33/56k modem user.

Ping is just the delay of the data.

Higher ping = longer travel distance
Lower ping = lower travel distance

Soo, a T3 user, with a "bad" ping, will STILL be better to download from than the "good" ping 56k user.
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Old May 2nd, 2002
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Correct, both times.
Sorry, but no.

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Ping is just the delay of the data.

Higher ping = longer travel distance
Lower ping = lower travel distance
Not always.

A higher ping can also be caused by net congestion, packet loss, and bad hardware along the way. Therefore, higher ping times are not always a sign of distance.

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Soo, a T3 user, with a "bad" ping, will STILL be better to download from than the "good" ping 56k user.
Again no.

If the cause of a high ping on a T3 is because of bad hardware or packet loss, then file transfers will be affected as well. I'll take a rock solid 5Kbps from a modem user over a transfer that fluctuates from 0Kbps to 50Kbps intermittantly from a T3 user sitting behind a bad router anyday.
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