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obviously you have forgotten where the english language derives from, and no it isn't america, so it would be nice if you place the UK flag under English on your homepage. not the american flag.

Obviously you seem to have forgotten where good style derives from, and no, it isn't the dictionary of smaller insults.

Might you consider remodulating your english to a finer tone, else our slander-filters will overlay your ramblings with static.

I was told that English had several variants, and there's today a clear distinction between American English and British English.

If you think that some translations should be specialized to British English, it is possible in Limewire, by adding only the necessary modified resources into the Messages Bundle with the "en_GB" code.

For now, no one has demonstrated that such specialization was needed, and so Limewire uses the language where it is mostly developped: American English.

This is clear on the translate page that indicates "English (US)" and not just "English".

So instead of making such unjustified critics, feel free to provide the necessary changes for a British specialization. For now Limewire uses a "pan-English" resource file as the default, but already uses the various locale specializations for each English-spoken area supported by Java: it is already true for the format of dates (we currently don't use the localization of currency amounts)

We are open to suggestions if you feel we need it...

The differences between the variants in the languages are minor and easily found if you bothered to do a simple google search. But I'm not asking for an UK English translation as us Brits are not a stupid bunch - we can work out that 'Center' = 'Center' and 'Color' = 'Colour'. ;) If we really felt the need to segregate ourselves from your perversion of our language then we would have asked for a 'g33k' and 'txt spk' translation too ;)

All us Brits want is a little recognition for the use of OUR language and as i can see from the links you have posted, in the thread i started, that I'm certainly not the first person to have been angered by this.

Well there are a few occurences in LimeWire resources where the british orthographu could be used: "colour" instead of "color" is an example.
However, I was told that "center" should be kept in British English when it means "middle" or is a verb (conjugated : "centers", "centered", not: "centres", "centred"), whilst "centre(s)" being used exclusively for names of buildings, places in a city, organisations or institutions.

For the historic origin of the English language,it is certainly in Britain, but it was born from a melting pot of other languages, including Latin, Normand, Celtic, Old French, Saxon, and Scandinavian Nordic languages. US English continues that evolution with additional european origins (with a raising influence of American Spanish) and with historic African languages in the Afroamerican community, and more simplifications necessary for mutual understanding of people with various origins (and today with words borrowed worldwide, including East-Asia).

In UK, evolutions include more words from an important South-Asian community, and Celtic languages in Ireland and Scotland.

French also borrowed lot of words from Italian, Russian, German, and Arabic (and today from English), but also historically from regional oil and oc dialects (including Normand in the North of France and Occitan in the South). In Canada, some historical French terms and expressions are kept more frequently (and this is a marvelous source of the French vocabulary because mny ofthesewords are beautiful), but some local usage favor English terms that are not used in France. The influence is reciprocal, and in fact the regionalisms are shading out, with the exception of spoken accents between America and Europe (but a mostly common orthography and syntax).

The same is true with English whose unification is much more visible today than it was only 50 years ago (regionalisms were very present even in UK only, with very distinctive accents).

One of the funny things about the UK is different parts speak differently, even in London different areas of the place speak english differently. lol :D (not only due to basic demographics.) Where I am, in most cases schools allowed both UK & US spellings of words. Personally I'm a greater supporter of the UK english. It has more style. It's almost as though the original US language users developed their spelling of words due to lack of ability to spell correctly. :D I guess that's what Verdyp is saying, making it more simplified for mutual understanding of people with various origins.

The english (& many other) language(s) is dynamic. I read a book written by my grandfather & the english use is considerably different & spelling included. The further you go back in time, the more the language changes are evident. And changes are still happening. (It's been too many years since I studied the origins of english language at university.)

Indeed. Both of you raise good points and are right to say that every language in some ways is influenced by another language or culture and true this is more evident in English than in most other languages. In fact its quite fascinating to trace back the roots of some of our spellings and sayings.

Last time I checked, the English language developed in England. The UK is a group of several countries, most of which had or have a different language to english before they were "conquered", similar in the way which the US got English as its language.

So if the "Whinging Pom" wants to get padantic, you need the English flag, not the UK flag. (The english flag from memory is a red cross on a white background, the UK flag is the british flag which is the Union jack - but I could be wrong, coz I dont care enough to check!)

I'm not sure why you posted here. I don't quite think it belongs since you have nothing constructive to add. Another one who can't even spell correctly. See if you can find padantic in even the US english dictionary. Or is this a new way of spelling for the us version of the word. For those who can't even pronounce the english alphabet correctly. Such as zeeee instead of zed. :rolleyes: This is going nowhere with the last posting. In our country, feral animals don't have rabies, in fact rabies doesn't exist here at all. Don't forget to wipe the saliva pouring out of your mouth & nose, & your sweaty paws. :D China for many centuries thought of themselves as the centre of the world or universe. Some people in the US think of themselves the same way. :rolleyes:

Personally I am very anti-corruption of local cultures & languages. Such as the damage spanish did in South America by destroying cultures or using genocide backed up years later by so called US missionaries who also did major damage to cultures all over the world. Or the settlers in US using genocide against the local indian cultures. Or about the US wanting to take over the world with their culture & language. Too many examples of such types of corruption to quote ... getting totally off topic.

This topic is about respect for the english language & the oxford spellings which I have great respect for. Not for the uneducated & their informal use & misgivings about the english language.

good call LOTR...

its pedantic...sheesh, can't even speak his 'own' language...

and what is it with this sudden influx of irate limeys?...just wtf gives?....

you know, a LOT of good people died freeing themselves from YOUR tryanny..so go take your damn Union Jack, shove it where the sun don't shine, and I'll be glad to come along and lite the bit still sticking out on fire..more than glad in fact...

LimeWire was developed in the US so the proper language is English (US). If you want it to be English (UK) then develop your own software and fly the union jack.

Limewire is actually developed with people from different origins (although they work in New York City), and with the help of open-source developers in various countries (but I still don't know any open-source developer in the LimeWire developers list that participates from Britain).

Anyway, if British users want corrections or adaptation for the default American English resources, they can contribute the needed changes for a additional "en_GB" resource file (just change the language name from "English" to "British English").

Actually the main resource file does not use the strict American rules for orthography and vocabulary. This is more a International English version, so may be "en_US" adaptation may be added as well. For this reason the default locale is just labeled "English" and not "American English". May be it should be labeled "International English", but who really cares ?

There's no proud flagship for US promotion in LimeWire. The softwareisfor the people of the world. Not just for US citizens (and anyway, English is not the only language in US, Spanish and French having also some official status in some of its states), and the intent of LimeWire is to serve them equally and with respect of differences of culture, including minorities. That's the reason why LimeWire is internationalized in favor of humane languages, not in favor of administrative country borders (which however apply in some limitations for legality of the LimeWire LLC activities in US).

above edited for brevity.

I posted a reply to this subject a while back, which treated the subject with the gentle humour I considered it deserved.

Your remarks above I find offensive and on behalf of irate limeys all over my country, I ask you to keep your thoughts to yourself. I wasn't irate , but I am now.

I think this thread died already. I had a hand in that. Topic closed unless it's on topic. But then I think the topic's already been well covered by verdyp. Someone have a UK english language to add to LW, then announce it here, otherwise this topic should be kept closed if there's no fresh developments.

wow...didn't know you considered yourself an irate limey...sorry for the insult then if that's the case, cause you are a decent person...the other posters involved in this are lamers...especially ferral, who is obviously a liar (see his statement re: HP4)

if said posters would have kept their mouths sewn shut after their initial posts, then all would have been fine..but no, they just had to keep whining...and they got what they deserved IMO...

and of course I know that modern day Great Britain is certainly not the same as it was 200 years ago...but lets admit it took till very recent history for that government to finally give up all its little colonies, no?..and yeah, I know my government sucks..far more than you realize...and maybe the world should thank old day England for supplying the impetus for America to be born...a great idea, but one which obviously got corrupted pretty quickly...hell, I think I would rather be owned by a King/Queen than a bunch of damn money hungry corporations...sheesh..

Thats besides the point. America speeking English so they should fly the English flag. It really is that simple.

Yes it is English and yes the Americans did start to formulate their own language but they chose to stick with English.

Plus Americans are not the only people / nation who speek English. By putting up the US flag, you are in effect implying that Australians speek American

This thread is not about whos nation is better or politics. Its not an ego thread either. It's a simple thread pointing out a simple fact that you are speaking English, not American.

The language you are speaking is called English, so an English flag should be shown. Or is that a little too simplistic and logical?

Which "English" flag? The Union Jack or the more restricted flag of England (with a single red cross on white)? Tell me if there are distinctions for English spoken or understood in Wales, Scotland, Ireland, or kingdom possessions of Isle of Man, and Biliwicks of Jersey and Guernsey. And which distinction you will use in the translation...
If you use the Union Jack, former British colonies will not appreciate it. It you use the England flag, it won't be recognized as meaning English in other countries than UK, and in UK it will irritate those not living in England.
So which flag use (if a flag must be used to designate languages...)? Most probably the one that most people know and recognize, and not the pedantic one (England) for the origin language. Here we don't care about where the language comes from, we speak about the current usage of the language.
If the multicolor circle on white flag of the Francophonie was much more wellknown, it would replace the French flag for French.

lol :D I also have an aussie flag option on my computer. I presume that includes a combination of both UK & US spellings.
I believe the same is true for many countries around the world. Even in african countries there can be multiple languages spoken in that country as african countries are not divided by language or culture. Also with asian countries you get great variations of the official language (which is usually that of the capital city.) You get hill tribes who speak very differently ... arguably not even dialects in some cases. Look at China ... you have over 50 accepted minority groups with their own dialects & in fact there's more that have not been officially recognised by the Chinese government. Same applies to Thai or Vietnamese. I had great problems understanding southern vietnamese but when I went to the north, it was like a breath of fresh air. I could not only understand them clearly but they could understand me without problems. But then in the middle of Nam they speak quite differently. They also have their hill-tribes as does Thailand & indonesia, philippines, etc. Philippines has multiple languages for example spoken by large %'s of the population. Even Japan has multiple dialects. Those in Nthn Japan have problems understanding those in the central (around old capital), south or particularly those in the minor islands.

What I want to know is what makes any country or culture think they own a language. The British got English from German decent according to Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language . So by LauMars definition of who claims English, it should be the German Flag not the Union Jack. But who really cares I live in the US. I speak English, and the English I speak is right for me. The way I spell it is correct to me. (some of the time I am not the best at spelling or grammar) I really don't care if I spell it differently or use different pronunciation. Allot of the world has English as a required subject in school. And most of them that were not influenced by British occupation are using the US English. Languages evolve and change new words are made for new things and they will continue to change. Sorry but I do not believe the English language belongs to the British or anybody. I stick by my other post that LimeWire was developed in the US thus the US Flag by the English language is proper. I also believe that if it was developed in the UK the British Flag would be appropriate.

English is the main world business language. But it's certainly not the most abundant. Look at India & chinese languages combined & you have probably almost 2/3 of the world's population. (My calculations might be a little out but I'm sure I'm not too far off!)

English ... a conglomerate of many sources both from centuries past & of present influences. So who (which country) is the recognised official language of english? Where did the Oxford dictionary come from. Where did pidgin english come from. There's lots of it in New Guinea. lol :D How about we all speak Pidgin english. After all, pidgin english is a combination of the local & english languages. And how many pidgin english languages are there out here? How many variations of english speech & spelling are there out there. So how about we call it pidgin english & have a flag of a pidgeon on a dinner plate or in a fox's mouth? Or image of Pidgeon droppings below where the pidgins sit on the flag pole. (umm ... I think I'm starting to stray somehow. whoops! ... english is what we get wherever it comes from ... ever tried reading an english translation of a manual made in China or ... how about aboriginal english. Not sure if any of you saw the postings not so long ago in the FrostWire section of such a young lad. Lives just a handlful of hours drive away. It was his country after all! We're just passing thru hopefully .. or renting it on lease! Midnight Oil!)

That's why I want Esperanto to become the world's main second language.
It's far easier, and you can't go as wrong with it as with english.

http://www.esperanto.net/
http://www.lernu.net/

PS: Sorry for the OT, couldn'T refrain myself ;)

Aw comoan you lot. Whits aw this guff yer spoutin. De yeas no relise that the best way tae speak english is wae a scots accent an no thon estury english wi nae life tae it at aw.