blocking non-file sharring ussers
 

Is there a way to edit the Limewire program to permantly block ussers from downloading from you if they are not sharring any files? (the kill button is only a temporary fix)

There is no way I know of that you can truly tell the "leaches" from someone who may have temporarily disabled downloads. I do know that, in OPTIONS, under SHARING there is an adjustment you can make as to sharing files. It is amazing the number of ppl who DO NOT SHARE. But for dialup and foriegn countries this may be necessary. Never assume your circumstances are the same worldwide. Not all are so Blessed

your right. I didn't think about that. Thanks

It is amazing how many non-sharers there are and it makes
me angry. I've worked hard to make available over 1,000
original, documented and correctly identified songs. To have
someone who doesn't care enough to share take advantage is wrong.
There is a way to stop these worse freeloaders....

Under tools, go to options.
Under options go to filters.
Open filters and open hosts.
There you can enter the IP #'s
of those who download your material without sharing.

I get the IP # as they're downloading my muisc, then
kill their download(s). Then enter their IP # in the
list of downloaders you wish to deny access.

It works.

Cal

I thought Deacon72 made a good point as to why some users may not share files, because they have a slow dial-up instead of a highspeed internet but the more I think about it some of those same people, who don't share their files, upload my files at way to fast of a pace for them to be using a dial-up network. So that can only mean that they just choose to not share files. I think I will look at each member individually and make a decision as to whether or not they are stingy. Those people I will use your way of blocking them. Thanks alot.

I am no fan of freeloaders but I have been doing some experimenting latley and have found that there really isn't any good way tio tell if a person is sharing or not. I have had people DL fome me and tried to brouse them made note of there IP adress if I could not brouse them I would kill the UL. Latter they would reappear and I would atempt to brouse again and this time it would show they were sharing. I would repeate the process and sometimes it would show files and other times it would not. So brousing a host really isn't a good way to tell if someone is shareing. If you block these people and every body uses this method of determning who to block. Pretty soon you and everybody will be blocked, and guess what no filesharing

Later Grandpa

As Grandpa said, there is no proven scientific way to determine who does or does not share. It has been researched and proven that over 50% of the users on ALL P2P, file-sharing programs do NOT share. They take, they download and they "leech", but they are still part of the network. They can become Ultrapeers, but if you block them they become tottally useless. Now before anyone becomes selfrighteous or santimonious about this.....Before you started on P2P networking, How much did you have??

How many "original" files have you given to the community that did not originate in that community or in some other program??

Don't block anyone. Avoid judging users who just may have reasons. The one you block today may be the only one to share the file you are looking for tomorrow.

So Deacon 72 what's the answer, just accept the leeches for what they are and let them download from you and ignore the fact that they aren't returning the favor? I've put 10 personal zip files in my folder to share with others and I don't think its asking too much of others to share too. When I check for upload's and try to scan the ussers. I try to scan them 3 times- because I too have seen that sometimes a usser can be scanned after several tries- and if I can't scan them after 3 tries I use Cal's method of blocking them.

Yes, accept them. I started back in '98 with Napster. We had our share of leeches and we didn't like it, but we accepted it. Here is food for thought. You say you put 10 files in a folder to share. What about all the other files you downloaded?? Why aren't you sharing what you fully and without reservation were allowed to download but now you only allow 10 files to be uploaded from you. What I download, whatever I get from here, I share without reservation. I don't ask anything in return. pound for pound kb for kb. Share and don't ask anything in return is the greatest gift of all. And NO I don't get paid for answering questions in LimeWire. Me, LOTR, Grandpa, Peerless, beerbottlebill, and so many others do it to share the knowledge without reimbursement because we like to.We test BETA's to improve the community because we like to. I may not change your mind about the way you share, but maybe someone will be affected by this and take up where I left off when I am no longer around this world. Have fun and as someoneelse likes to say

THANKS FOR THE FILES :D :D :D

TomLa you can do what ever you want to do. But when I was doing the testing while the people were DL from me one guy I scaned 12 times before I got any results. And was I suprised when they finnaly showed up there were litteraly thousands of files this person was sharing a coupple I had been looking for I clicked on them and got in line in his Q about an hour later I checked and the file was finshed. I had been looking for this file for awhile with no results so this person had some pretty good bandwith to take me from #5 to complete in an hour, the file was rather large 350mb. So I think if you use the above method you may be blocking some of the wrong people. Like I said unfortunatley there is no good way to tell who is sharing and who isn't.

Deacon 72 you misunderstood me. I meant that I added 10 of my own files to share along with all the files that I've downloaded. I know that 10 files doesn't sound like much but at least it's something. I have many others on disk that I plan to make available sooner or later. I admit that maybe I'm making too much of this file sharing thing however if any readers at all happen to see these comments and change the way they share with others in a positive way then I have accomplished something valuable. Have a great day.

It's when file sharers turn off their bandwidth that gets my blood boiling or, they allow you to dl and cut you off anyway right in the middle of it, I have never cut anyone off in a middle of a download. The freeloaders are far from the problem, it's the ones who share that are the stingy ones. I share, and have used P2P for many years. I was on Napster and we had very few freeloaders. Maybe if people opened up and shared the networks wouldnt have died. Plus, there is the RIAA to worry about, and the MPAA. People dont want to get sued so they download but dont share. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

thats why i really would like it if you can download from friends, because most of the time you can force them to share. how many freeloaders would be here, if they were forced to be accountable?

i wouldnt be suprized if i have been banned by other people because i have a large upload queue and it would appear that im not sharing at all. because when my upload slots are full, its nearly impossible to browse host someone.

browse host/uploading
 

Hello, I am relatively new to Limewire (2 weeks), and I am learning quite a lot. I have read with interest the threads regarding blocking someone from downloading from you if they don't share files.

When I first started using limewire, I didn't even know people could upload from my computer. Since learning that, I have gone into options and set it up as well as fixing my firewall to allow it.

To address the issue of connection speeds, I have a 56K modem, dial up, but my dial up speed is only 24k. According to my ISP, this is due to the antiquated wiring in this area, and is the best I can expect.

It does not stop me from allowing people to upload, it just is terminally slow. They say patience is a virtue. So, please, have some with us. Perhaps the people you are trying to access are also new at this and just haven't learned yet.

Browse Host? I tried it, sometimes I am succesfull and sometimes not. Just discovered inserting IP's into direct connect last night, and used my brothers number, who downloaded limewire the same time I did. Sometimes I was able to access his list and sometimes I was not. He said he had to try about 12 times to get into mine.

So I do not think blocking someone just because you cannot get into their computer is a good thing. Maybe this also just takes patience.

I would like to thank all of you for all the wonderful music I have been able to obtain since I found Limewire. And am happy to share it all with anyone.

And I am trying to read part of the Forum daily to gather all the info I can regarding this great thing called Limewire.

welcome to the forum yoopersister! hope you find it as comfortable here as i do!

browse host/uploading
 

Hello, I am relatively new to Limewire (2 weeks), and I am learning quite a lot. I have read with interest the threads regarding blocking someone from downloading from you if they don't share files.

When I first started using limewire, I didn't even know people could upload from my computer. Since learning that, I have gone into options and set it up as well as fixing my firewall to allow it.

To address the issue of connection speeds, I have a 56K modem, dial up, but my dial up speed is only 24k. According to my ISP, this is due to the antiquated wiring in this area, and is the best I can expect.

It does not stop me from allowing people to upload, it just is terminally slow. They say patience is a virtue. So, please, have some with us. Perhaps the people you are trying to access are also new at this and just haven't learned yet.

Browse Host? I tried it, sometimes I am succesfull and sometimes not. Just discovered inserting IP's into direct connect last night, and used my brothers number, who downloaded limewire the same time I did. Sometimes I was able to access his list and sometimes I was not. He said he had to try about 12 times to get into mine.

So I do not think blocking someone just because you cannot get into their computer is a good thing. Maybe this also just takes patience.

I would like to thank all of you for all the wonderful music I have been able to obtain since I found Limewire. And am happy to share it all with anyone.

And I am trying to read part of the Forum daily to gather all the info I can regarding this great thing called Limewire.

Oops I better un-ban you :) Actually there is not a great deal to be gained from banning people as I know in my case my ip no. is different every time I look at it.
If someone queues an inordinate amount of stuff, and I cannot for the life of me get their ip no to show up on any files I calculate that he might be sharing, I will ban him if I'm in a bad mood, and I think we all feel like that sometimes. I do however have a feeling that some people will share with a different ip no than they download. Perhaps someone at work downloading on his lap top and sharing on his work computer.

There are 2 sides to this question and after reading this thread, I might just sit on the fence.
and where I have said he read he/she :cool:

well...i have been useing limewire forsome time now and i do not share all my files i do share most of them to anyone who wants them. the only files i do not share arevideos becuase they take to long to upload and make my downloads really slow

not a great deal to be gained indeed, but this is not the perception the normal user of limewire thinks. they think that when they ban someone, they are keeping the non-filesharers out of the network. well the download mesh has a high resistance to people being banned if the file is popular enough. (btw i have a static ip, so i must be banned for life ;))

:cool:

At first when I couldn't upload files from someone I thought they were just being stingy. I didn't really understand the mechanics of Limewire or P2P in general but now it sounds as though there are several reasons that can keep someone from getting files from other users. I'll not ban anyone else from getting my files whether I can scan them or not. Thanks for the info.

I've been sharing since 1998 when Napster was getting a start. I know that I have never contributed an original piece to share but have always shared what I downloaded. I was on dialup (28.8)back then and had a 486 100 mhz overdrive with 72 mb RAM and a 2.1 HDD. Damn I was in my glory. If some of the "oldsters" had banned me back then as a newbie, I wouldn't be able to share what I do today. Contrary to what Sphinx said, there was an overabundence of folks who didn't share as attested to in the Napster Forums. But The network grew to over 80 MILLION REGISTERED USERS. Many past, present and future apps may vie for the title but I don't think any will ever achieve the popularity of the "KING". I checked some of the people who seem to be sharing "viruses" (851.7 mb zip files) and some of the spammers (106.8 wmv and the other ipod ads) and would have banned them except for the fact they, i believe, had no idea of what they were doing. (for the most part that is)
So I figure as long as I know what I am downloading and what I am sharing (Bitzi searches, verified d/ls, virus scans, and spyware/ adware programs) I won't ban or block anyone. They just may (and some have) share a file I need to make my collections complete.

As someone else is so fond of saying Thanks for the files.

@ mstfyd

if you dont give back what you take, then you shouldnt be taking. right? if you dont want to share the illegal content with everyone else, then why do you download it? the model of p2p: only take what you are willing to give back. give more than you are willing to take. generosity is the key to make any p2p network successful and grow. selfishness, greedyness and leeches have no place in this p2p model and will only help destroy it.

I really have to weigh in on this issue.

For about 2 years, I've enjoyed the use of limewire, getting music files I couldn't find elsewhere, and countless other songs I enjoy listening to.

I'd love to share, have a cable connection, BUT...

I'm 16 years old, and obviously, still live with my parents. Therefore; In the event I was sued for sharing, my parents would be the target of the lawsuit. I'm not going to put my parents at risk because of my actions.

So please, just share. There are freeloaders out there, but plenty of people who have legitimate reasons not to share. You can't distinguish between them from behind a computer screen.

@ A Dude, do i really have to repeat this?

if you dont give back what you take, then you shouldnt be taking. right? if you dont want to share the illegal content with everyone else, then why do you download it?

:confused: A Dude are you serious? Do you really think others should share files with you and you not do the same???? You need to wake up.

How about this
 

I know a lot of college kids use limewire, like myself I think It would be nice to be able to search everyone on my ethernet connection since it's much faster..instead of just getting a few result you could have one way to search the whole thing and browse everyone at my school's files that way I could download easier and quicker

This is directed at me?
 

[B]This is directed atme? Is there anything in my post which states or implies that I do not share?

I don't think so.

I'm no freeloader, and never have been.

Personally, I hate freeloaders too but there is an option in tools where you can block freeloaders. I share about 1,300 files and have dsl

I Commend you non-blocker, non-banner types
 

I have expounded on this subject before in other threads so I won't get into it again except to say, those of you who are so worried about free loaders etc. should get off your high horse and join the network 100%. If you have it, share it. Let him who is without sin throw the first stone or something like that! And, as Only A Hobo alluded to; your upload speed does not affect your download speed. And, for those of you who cut off an upload at 99%, for shame, for shame!

Now, I need a fix. I haven't changed my options for many months so, results in my upload window caught me by surprise this morning. An IP was busy downloading and had filled my que. His/her next attempt resulted in "Greedy Servant Banned". Was it something I said, or a setting I have wrong? How do I un-ban them?

I don't share my downloads file folder for 2 very specific reasons.
I test the files before I share them.

1. If they're archive files or possibly virus containing files, I scan them first after they are downloaded and in some cases open them and see if they are corrupted or not in which case would be a shame to share a corrupt or virus infected file would it not? And I have downloaded files that weren't of the typical virus containing zips and rars.

2. I download porn, shamelessly, though sometimes the content is comepletely different than what the filename suggests. It rarely ever happens but some discusting things shouldn't be shared (or be in existance for that matterhttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...lies/VOMIS.jpg) in which case I promptly delete it off my hard drive as I will NOT make THAT available to the network.

After these files are tested/viewed/scanned I move them into seperate folders which I do share and refresh my library thus sharing legit and in some cases correctly renamed files.

As far as the leaching problem goes, only the Limewire program itself will know for sure if someone is sharing or not. So perhaps limewire can prevent users who are not sharing by preventing them from searching or downloading till they share. Or a nice lil popup window every 5 minutes that reminds them they aren't sharing anything. Like that smiley central advert that says "SAY SOMETHING"! should be, "SHARE SOMETHING"!! http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...milies/LOL.png But you get the idea.

Though I suppose someone could share their 115kb emoticon collection and show they're sharing 95 files! woohooooooo! I see no reason why anyone can't share 10mb. That should be the minimum and I'm being generous. I had dialup too for years and I still shared a few hundred files, over 100mb.

It is a file sharing program, not a file leaching program. And those who leach should really not use the program. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...s/bigsmile.jpg

MORB, I applaud your dedication to screening files before sharing!
 

Would that everyone would follow your lead. I don't think many realize the trash they help to spread by sharing their download folder automatically.

HOBO-I don't know for sure but I don't think the downloader is notified he/she has been banned. When I'm being greedy by trying to get seldom seen files from hosts who only log on on their birthdays I might succeed for one file but I then get "need more sources" for the others. I searched again and that host was still there with all of the files listed. I rebooted (changing my IP address) and the same thing happened. Downloaded one file and the rest "needed more sources" This could be a fluke though.

In the same vein, I guess I really don't understand "need more sources". You do a search and the host is listed with the files he/she is sharing. Try to download a file and NMS msg. Do a new search and the host is still listed. Are they just pretending to share? If LW lists their files they must be online because you can also browse them. How would they list files yet not share them?