File size filter a must!
 

Hey...I think the one thing that would be best would be a file size filter. We could then filter those damn 851.7 kb and 628.7 kb viruses! That part of Limewire sucks big time...makes me feel like using other programs, but everything else is so nice so I can't :p What does everyone else think?

Staci

File Size Filter Poll
 

Add a file size filter? Yes or no:

I feel sure that this has been suggested at least once:D ....and you are not supposed to make repeat suggestions.

BUT I DON"T CARE A reminder of this particular omission never hurts!

btw...sorry for the repeat! :) it just bugs me

Like I said ... I don't care the more it gets repeated the better :):):D Mind you looking at your smiley, I don't think you're sorry atall :)

lol wellll.....maybe I'm not so much then :cool: thanx for stayin friendly

Reminds me of this Xtra search option & yes it can't be understated. It has too many benefits.

I'm expect you discovered Phex has the max/min filter LOTR

I made the suggestion before I found that out! lol :D That was over a year ago now & has always been my main request. I've made requests on behalf of other people but this one really is not only representing many other people who've made similar requests but is also a very personal one. I've used LW now for amost 4 yrs or so & recognise such a tool will have it's benefits in more ways than one ... not only for the user but also potentially the network.

(Just corrected how long I'd used LW for.)

just another vote for the filter here too.

How does this sound for such a tool?

A slider control bar much like the bandwidth sliders used in the options, where the centre button could also be option-dragged to show a wider range of results.

Something like one of these filter bars?

oh--and the option to omit the selected size range.
(haven't tried PHex, so not sure how he built his)
Here are a couple of mock-ups

Phex has boxes for you to type in the max and min size. You can fiter out anything OUTSIDE those limits.

well, we could do file size filters, - but since it is currently impossible to add a file-size filter in the gnutella query it is not such a large improvement.

That's a start. And yes it would still be beneficial to the user. Presently I need to arrange my search results by size in order to find the correct size of what I'm looking for.

But why is it impossible to add to the search query? Would it weaken the search strength by having to check a new criteria? I don't know how the search query works, but I thought this info would be within the hash tree of the file.

all gnutella developers would first want to discuss whether to refine the gnutella protocol so they would ignore requests for out-of-size results, and then figure out how to write the code. Currently you can't send a message that allows restrictions like that, so it's a job for the gdf.

Still, as you say, I agree that it would be a useful way to manage the results that do arrive.

Size Filters, One More Voice.
 

Guys

I would like to add my vote (and voice) to the call for a size filter.

I, along with LOTR and others, suggested a size filter some time ago and have been left "hanging" for an explanation why this (reasonable) requested can't be granted.

However, this thread for the first time contains some sort of reason for this long overdue addition.

May I suggest that Gnutella (Nut-Tella "Chocolate Spread pronunciation":)) programmers get together and quickly agree on ways to implement "size filtering".




UK Bob

Well, there are currently a lot of other features that demand our attention. The file size filter (obviously) just doesn't have such a high priority, since it will be a lot of work to rewrite the existing filter system to allow for such a filter.

The current filter was not designed with something like a file-size filter in mind, so it will be difficult to add it to the current system although a file-size filter itself is very simple.

virus protection a must...save time
 

imagine how much time i could save if i didn't have to look at all those %*&&!!!! virus files.......

i saw it written that a file size filter is not so important as some other features being worked,but i dunno:confused: protecting my $3,000 machine seems pretty important to me...of course i use antivirus software,but i don't like scrolling through so many virus files and only one feasible file.....it's harder to see the file i want in all that clutter....anybody else have that problem?or am i special?:D

rant...rant...rave...rave... you REALLY CANNOT emphasize this enough....it's the only true flaw i find in limewire...sure other upgrades could be useful for a few elite users..but a file filter is useful for EVERYBODY.

thanx for you patience in reading through my rant:D :p ;)

Size Filter Protocol
 

trap_jaw4

You said two things recently:I am not a programmer but there are ways to add a filter, and get around your first objection, without interfering with the LW's programme, e.g. apply filter parameters after your search results are received.

This way you will not have to worry about Gnuttella protocols or complex reprogramming.

Now, to regular users of LW to say that "size filters" are not a high priority beggars belief, like AEternal_Darkness I believe that "size filters" should be the utmost priority, anything else is just window dressing.

So my message is this, stop looking for silly excuses not the implement a long overdue facility that LW users have constantly requested over the past couple of years.





UK Bob

i rather a Phex Size Filter, you dont need the slider, just put down the number you want to filter, it have d rop down to ask which one: Bytes, Kb, MB, GB. it very useful, and it beat the slider. Phex is all about simplcity ;)

Sfief, just try Phex

Limewirer, The Phex size filter does not quite work that way, but you can set a minimim and maximum limit, which I haven't used but it is Much much better than nothing!

It occurred to me, wrongly, that you could put the file size you wanted into the Phex Word filter but of course you would only get All files that size.DUH

I too am not a developer, but there must be SOME way to filter out a file size, in Limewire the same way you filter out a word... just in a different field, or am I being unreasonably naive:confused: :confused: :confused:

I fully agree with you that this needs to be done immediately!!

There should be several options instituted:

In the preference of the program there should be an option to eliminate from the search outcome files that meet a certain size requirements.

2nd: One should have the ability to highlight several files at once and with one right click of the mouse block all the hosts that have those files.

3rd: If one result shows up but with 36 people that have it, at present we are only able to block one. We need the ability to block all.

I hope LIMEWIRE is reading this!!!

Lets put the class back into this program and give the users what they need.

This should be top priority next to security.

Everyone please voice your opinion and other features that you feel merit Limewire to change

Mabey, but..
 

The file filter would filter files that are suppose to be that small, like text files or small games, but if limewire came with a virus scanner or scaned the files online that would be Vary Helpfull

Aricshow

Your ideas are not new, they were wrong when they were first suggested, possibly over a year ago, and they are wrong now.

No one wants LW with its own second rate virus scanner, most users have their own favourite AV app, whether free or paid for.

But a size filter is needed now, in fact more now than when it was first suggested sometime ago.



UK Bob

eh yea I can see why it would be good but umm when you think about it they already have a order thing seriously how hard would it be to just go by file size and not even try the ones under like 900k. But I guess since people are lazy it would help.

Zimdale & Hobo

The effectiveness of filters will depend upon how they are implemented.

For example, if filters are an integral part of the search query then your search is bound to be more effective, at the moment any search that you do is swamped with fake results.

Size filters here will give you a better, truer result and, as you know Hobo, the fake file makers have revolving IP addresses so that even if you put them in your block list they still swamp your search query, I know because I have tried to block them as well.

Next, if a simple form of filtering is implements, like Phex, i.e. after the search is completed the size filter is applied, then users will not accidentally infect their PCs with worms or viruses.

I'm sure that you guys, like myself, have accidentally downloaded these small files, they download so quickly that they are on your PC in the blink of an eye.

Either way, putting filters in LW is a win win situation.



UK Bob

er yea my last reply did come out as kinda umm offensive though im just saying while this would be a good idea for limewire to do. it could take up time and space where they can be adding more vital peices of the program to make it go faster, be more efficent, and such.

though I know if they did add a size filter ide use the hell outa that too :)


hmmm I think google should make a plugin thing so that people that are experienced in java programming can create these little bits like this as a plugin instead of having the amazing programmers at gnutella have to do it :)

Someone tell me how the Gnutella program 5 years ago had a file size filter that worked on the network but not a file size filter now with people complaining about how difficult it is to impliment this filter... I'm assuming that the Gnutella program years ago ran on the Gnutella network or am I wrong here?

I think this file size filter can be addressed in two steps.

1. Simply write in the Limewire program itself to not display files under a specified size. Wouldn't that be easy! Even though those file would still be on the network and searched at least they wouldn't be displayed in the program. This would at least deter the virus kingdom from being know. Then again they can just add dummy files to make them bigger. But still, if they have to make their virus/ipod adds over 100mb or 500mb that would sure slow them down. I think this would be a good start.

2. Work on the network filtering here so that those file sizes (under or over) are just overlooked. This would complete the problem and I'm sure lots of former Limewire users like myself would return to the network. I took my 80GB's of shared files elseware till this problem is solved as I'm sure many already have as well. And as far as the guy that said that this isn't a high priority (if he's right) then Limewire is making a big mistake because there are fewer and fewer legit files being shared.
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Ok, for some reason that made me laugh!
I've noticed less and less results where there were a lot more a year ago. Probably because users like myself are switching to other programs where they have those filters. Like Ares. It works perfectly! The only thing I like about limewire is the network but even that's failing.

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That is very untrue, the network, at this time is growing enormously at a very rapid rate. this is because there is an influx of new users, "the gospel" of limewire software, and the shutdown of many p2p apps. this left people to look for alternatives.

But to be on topic, the spam filter is being worked on.. dont quote me on this nor hold your breath, but it will probably be released soon. From what i gather, the final bugs are being knocked out.

No holding of any breath going on here! :D

Any spam filter I have ever seen has never worked as well as a little common since. Lets see what was the fact I just read O yes there are 250 viruses being written every month and a unknown number of spam files.

Now lets see I am no program writer but if I wanted to get my spyware or virus spread and I new that apps were using size filters. I think I would just make them the size of common files.

Lets think how I might do that, don't know if it would work but lets say I wrote a file that is 857.1 Kb in size and I wanted to make it bigger humph what if I just held down the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA not to hard to make a file any size you want is it.

As far as a network that doesn't have spam and viruses on it I haven't found it yet. In my opinion the only thing a file size filter is going to do is block out legitimate files thus leaving less usable files to share.

But who knows I could be wrong it wouldn't be the first time nor the last.

Well, after using the new Junk Filter for a while now I've only been able to come up with one conclusion... It's Junk! I would have been 1000 times happier with a file size filter. I'm always finding good files marked as junk that I didn't mark and files that are still displayed as good files that are the infamous virus files. It's not trainable. I've messed with dummy controls a lot and still does no good. I just find I have to mess with it even more. I think I'll just stick to older versions.
I have a theory as to why there's a junk filter vs. a file size filter. Though does anyone have any word from limewire officials as to why they refuse a simple feature?

I don't know what difference you think a older version is going to make they still have the same search results. The older versions have no filter. Just turn it off if you don't like it or use another app.:confused:

I saw it suggested by a FrostWire programmer last year some time (the one who designed the original junk filter), that once everybody on the gnutella network starts filtering files less than 1 MB (1,000 KB) then these sponsored companies who release these autogenerated spam will simply increase the size of their spam (which includes virii.) Sponsored companies? Google Overpeer as an example of one. I noticed the mp3 spam only showed up after the Grokster court case. And virii started to arrive in more sizes also.

However, having said that, I'm also pro a size filter. One that could define a range of sizes to search for. The more tools in our defence the better. Also would improve search techniques if a person has an idea of the size of the file they're seeking.

Ur right about that...
If there are 100 topics about the same thing, the makers of limewire will irritate about it... So they are going to fix that in a limewire function and so there are no topics needed anymore:D



But back to the points, yes its better, but why size filter? Why not a 'everything' filter... much better...

File size filter and junk filter
 

They already have the tool in place. Now they can make it work right. The junk filter.....
If they would just make it filter out the file size it would work. I've tried it repeatedly in several different ways. It comes down to, if it worked right, there wouldn't be so many virus files out there. I know, I know, limewire can't help what the gunetella guys do, but it is a big part of the problem. It was one of the most popular programs, and without the filter working right, it feeds the problem and also causes people to quit using it!

Limewire people. Bottom line is, if you don't allow file size filtering specifically, people will quit using your program and sales will fail!

Everyforum now talking about file sharing says the same thing. To many viruses and junk files on limewire. It is a simple feature, I don't understand the problem since there are soooooo many requests for the program.

It seem like it would be a simple thing to do. The filters now include:
- file extension
- words in the name
- maybe some other things.

But file size would cover a range of sizes .. a minimum size and max size.
Maybe it's too much processing for the hosts? Because each host has to handle many searches per second while he's using his computer to do other things.

But wait. The client could take the same results he gets now and filter according to file size, right?

But meanwhile you can order the results by the file size, so the biggest ones appear at the top.

file size and sorting
 

That's something else. Every single time I have to click on file size to get it to sort. You should be able to enable the default sort. Name, size, connection type etc.