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Sleepless December 6th, 2006 10:29 AM

Who wants to get rid of most/all? of the SPAM!!!?
 
Well do something about it!!!

And no, this is not one of those useless polls that the developers probably never even see :xeri_ok1ani:

Register at www.limewire.org and vote for these changes to happen and maybe even comment on some of them:

(Remember. We do not discuss copyright titles there... well not here either) ;)

https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-26 (File Size Filter. Not like some of us like it but still. Make them see that all Limewire users want this)

We want to be able to filter results by filesize

https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-144 (Extending the keyword filter in point of the separator characters and filtered columns)

We want to be able to filter words in the comments and block sentences not just words even if there is a . or ; instead of a space

https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-29 (Being able to use ( ) [ ] and other symbols that are often used in filenames + and/or/exact phrase)


We want to get results containing the sentences we look for. And NOT just results containing one or even none of the words

So lets do something about it!!!

JohnnySlater December 6th, 2006 10:59 AM

There is already a topic of anti-spam...
But i agree with this...

Searching on Filesize dont work, and it must work...
For update of limewire, they must make something like:
File must be bigger than < input >
File must be smaller than < input >

And not just doing it in the searchbar...

I was downloading some DBGT videos, the filesize was about 60Mb... well i just type in kbytes by Filesize... and it just search in the filename... so that really sucks...

StevenJCarline December 10th, 2006 01:49 PM

I likes I actually said something like that when i first bought (less than a yr ago) But I didnt know what to do with it...thanks for putting this into actiion

ShortiMan December 18th, 2006 02:56 PM

I HATE filesize 1040 kb. It adult friend finder porn I believe. I like that idea. I also like the idea of being able to use the ( )....it helps when I want to search random song (clean) or (radio edit). For use as a DJ.

capridrifter November 6th, 2007 08:55 AM

I vote!!!!! I was looking for an old rare movie...(that you cant even buy anymore) and all I got was "GET IT NOW FREE AT BLAW BLAW BLAW.COM.....I hate that $H!T !!!!!

newbee2 November 6th, 2007 05:27 PM

Hi all,
Who the **** is posting all the new zip spam searches,i.e. anytitle...zip, starwars zip,or rolling stones zip, really starting to annoy me !! looking at incoming searches,nearly all are zip?????????really clogging up the system.
:mad2:
N2

Remoc November 6th, 2007 05:46 PM

Filter out .zip extension

newbee2 November 6th, 2007 06:44 PM

hi Remoc,
No I don't mean in my searches,I know what to avoid !!
I mean if you look in ''Incoming searches'' window,ie if you go monitor/show incoming searches,tick the box ,that as they scroll down hundreds are for all sorts of titles ending in Zip and not .zip at that ! so someone is clogging up gnuttella !
and the whole system !
WHO ?
N2

Xcom46 November 7th, 2007 11:08 AM

I vote.

Chris B....

Charlie58 November 27th, 2007 01:34 PM

Anything that could kick out those creeps is OK with me! Down with the 277.0 KB video files!

nickojones December 1st, 2007 10:22 AM

When you describe these annoying spam files as 'junk', the junk filter seems to do nothing at all! I thought it was meant to notify Limewire that these files should be removed!

alphakid42 January 14th, 2008 06:59 PM

How LimeWire Engineers can fix spam!
 
> Problem:

Spammers continually disguise messages by using file names that contain popular search terms or simply echo back searches performed, applying a large range of IP addresses as the source, making them impossible to block. Also, blocking a file that an unsuspecting user has already downloaded, means we cannot share other files with him or her.

> Answer:

A modified G-Mail spam model offers the best hope. Users mark unwanted items as spam, which uploads a file content identifier (MD5) to a LimeWire database. Every user sets his/her spam sensitivity level in the tool. If a file has been marked as spam by enough people to reach the user's spam sensitivity level, the file is removed from his/her search results.

What about it LimeWire Geeks?

:cool: AlphaKid42

king2 January 15th, 2008 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphakid42 (Post 304623)
> Problem:

Spammers continually disguise messages by using file names that contain popular search terms or simply echo back searches performed, applying a large range of IP addresses as the source, making them impossible to block. Also, blocking a file that an unsuspecting user has already downloaded, means we cannot share other files with him or her.

What about it LimeWire Geeks?

:cool: AlphaKid42

If i block an file i dont want to block the user or IP adres, only that file .

If i block also that user that wont be an good idear ............
i hope this is not the case.........

alphakid42 January 15th, 2008 10:24 AM

it would be simple for limewire engineering to calculate a mathematically unique number for any file (based on contents only, excluding name and datetime), using a publically available algorithm known as Message Digest version 5 (MD5), so they could easily add a feature to block a specific file.

problem is that a spammer could simply auto-add a character to a spam file to change its MD5 signature. still, with so many users, it would only take a few flags to mark a file as spam, sex content, violent, stupid, or whatever categories they wanted to offer. the block level for each category would be directly related to the number of flags received from unique user logins, so each user would have control over block sensitivity.

blocking a host is what i do now, because most of the time, it is a spammer ip address. the problems with that approach are that spammers manufacture many addresses, so its not fully-effective. also, any legit user that downloads the spam file is also blocked, and we cannot share files if i block the ip address. perhaps the number of host blocks could be centralized in a scheme similar to the one proposed above, with sensitivity under control of the user.

spammers know that small files tend to get downloaded quickly and get their messages through, so they tend to deliver small size files, so we can at least sort on size to find suspect files before selecting what to download. this is more true of audio file or video with a single image than full ads in video format. also, there are exceptions, such as the spam that echos your text search, of size 3462 K.

for now, i'd simply be happy with a file size blocker to nip spam. even if it means blocking other legit files of the same size. at least i could block 23.7, 277, and 3462 globally.

i'm new to this forum, so wonder if our discussion has any impact on what lw engineering does. perhaps this is just an exercise in futility to apease the masses -- a place to vent frustration.

<insert smiley-bang-head-on-wall icon here>
alphakid42

Kick4U3 January 18th, 2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleepless (Post 245069)
Well do something about it!!!

And no, this is not one of those useless polls that the developers probably never even see :xeri_ok1ani:

Register at LimeWire - Open Source P2P File Sharing and vote for these changes to happen and maybe even comment on some of them:

(Remember. We do not discuss copyright titles there... well not here either) ;)

https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-26 (File Size Filter. Not like some of us like it but still. Make them see that all Limewire users want this)

We want to be able to filter results by filesize

https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-144 (Extending the keyword filter in point of the separator characters and filtered columns)

We want to be able to filter words in the comments and block sentences not just words even if there is a . or ; instead of a space

https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-29 (Being able to use ( ) [ ] and other symbols that are often used in filenames + and/or/exact phrase)


We want to get results containing the sentences we look for. And NOT just results containing one or even none of the words

So lets do something about it!!!

When you do a search. the response will be a file with exact the same name as you typed it in and the filesize is always 3.462kb. I think this is junk.

Does anybody know what this is ?

alphakid42 January 18th, 2008 02:46 PM

Limewire Fans - Please vote for SPAM FILTERS
 
I voted.
Thanks, Sleepless!

Now, Limewire Fans, here are the links from Sleepless ...
Let's ask for some tools to filter files & reduce SPAM.

Register at LimeWire ... LimeWire - Open Source P2P File Sharing

Voting ...
https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-26 (File Size Filter)
https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-144 (Separator characters)
https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-29 (symbols and/or phrase)

Vegan March 28th, 2008 09:24 PM

Spammers will stop at nothing ahort of jail to flog their garbage. I have found so many ad-ware, spy-ware and god knows what else mislabeled as every you can think of. And security programs are behind the curve all the time.

scottdorr March 28th, 2008 11:17 PM

Yeah Man Youre Right,,

scottdorr March 28th, 2008 11:33 PM

Hey You Guys Im New At This But I Believe You Are Right -on With This Issue Of Spam Messages,

Blackhorse 70V March 30th, 2008 04:22 PM

I agree with Kick4U3. Come on, LW, be all that you can be!

Calabrese November 15th, 2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnySlater (Post 245085)
There is already a topic of anti-spam...
But i agree with this...

Searching on Filesize dont work, and it must work...
For update of limewire, they must make something like:
File must be bigger than < input >
File must be smaller than < input >

And not just doing it in the searchbar...

I was downloading some DBGT videos, the filesize was about 60Mb... well i just type in kbytes by Filesize... and it just search in the filename... so that really sucks...

Even though a file size filter has been heavily requested and is the only way to get rid of junk, Limewire still has not done it. The junk filter, even on the strictest setting allows the same files I marked as junk to show up again as not junk. I accidentally started a download of one of these fake tiny files and cancelled it in time. It then showed up in a search with the same word used. There was the icon next to it identifying it as a file I had cancelled in progress. If Limewire can recognize that I cancelled the download of this file, then they certainly can recognize it as the same file I marked as junk. Given these glaring facts, I am faced with an obvious conclusion. Limewire has no desire to get rid of junk. This leads me to a potential motivation on their part. I am not saying this is certain, but I do find it likely. They get paid for this. Their junk filter is garbage and their excuse for no file size filter is that they are working on a spam filter? Please, Limewire, don't bother. Work on a filesize filter. Countless users have requested this.

Lord of the Rings November 15th, 2008 10:21 PM

A discussion I had with one of the LW developers a couple years back was they didn't wish to bring in a size filter for the purpose of spam because spammers would simply make their spam larger. Well, spammers have already started doing this, so I guess that excuse falls by the way side now. The size filter has many purposes & some 'other' gnutella programs do have size filters for search results.

The fact is, it does not matter if someone is searching copyright material or not nowadays, junk will still show up in their search results.

A size filter I think was the first thing I requested in the main Requests thread some years ago.

Virus thread: Typical virus spam file sizes - Make a note of them (click on blue link to see)

Calabrese November 27th, 2008 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 332117)
A discussion I had with one of the LW developers a couple years back was they didn't wish to bring in a size filter for the purpose of spam because spammers would simply make their spam larger. Well, spammers have already started doing this, so I guess that excuse falls by the way side now. The size filter has many purposes & some 'other' gnutella programs do have size filters for search results.

The fact is, it does not matter if someone is searching copyright material or not nowadays, junk will still show up in their search results.

A size filter I think was the first thing I requested in the main Requests thread some years ago.

Virus thread: Typical virus spam file sizes - Make a note of them (click on blue link to see)

I do my best to aid. The bitcollider is a wonderful tool. To the best of my knowledge, as long as you do not open the file, it can not harm you. I have been purposely downloading files with no review and then rating them as the crap they are. If they are a good file, I rate them as such. Apparently Limewire will not implement a filesize filter, so I do my part in identifying this to the people who bother to do a Bitzi lookup. I have noticed that a file without the first frame showing up is a fake file. Any legitimate video file should have an icon of the first frame of the video. As long as you have the proper codecs. Which I do.

Blackhorse 70V November 29th, 2008 11:19 PM

Calabrese,

Thank you for contributing to the Bitzi database.
I have a few videos that have been edited so that the first frame is black. They play just fine, though I usually chop off the blank so an image will show in thumbnail view.


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