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Blackhorse 70V November 15th, 2008 06:15 PM

tzxazrael,

"bitiz ticket? i completely couldn't follow this part. is this a program i haven't heard of?"

It's a web site, not a program (and how would we know if you've never heard of it?). The link via LW has saved me from hours of bad downloading.

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/open-d...owse-chat.html

Lord of the Rings November 15th, 2008 09:57 PM

The Junk filter is not infallible. It is a learning filter & is there to aide the user. BTW LW checks files download hash, if the hash is identical then it lists it as same file.

The junk filter's settings can be changed from strong to weak. Personally I have it set to weak. I deliberately search out junk & tag it as junk. After a while the filter starts to pick up that those files are junk. However, as said earlier, it is not an ideal filter. And Spammers use special techniques to try to trick LW. That's why some files show as having been previously downloaded when they have not been.

Check this post for some examples of typical spam: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/downlo...note-them.html

As Blackhorse 70V suggests, Bitzi lookup is a good way of checking a file's validity & also its quality. :)

Calabrese November 27th, 2008 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 332112)
The Junk filter is not infallible. It is a learning filter & is there to aide the user. BTW LW checks files download hash, if the hash is identical then it lists it as same file.

The junk filter's settings can be changed from strong to weak. Personally I have it set to weak. I deliberately search out junk & tag it as junk. After a while the filter starts to pick up that those files are junk. However, as said earlier, it is not an ideal filter. And Spammers use special techniques to try to trick LW. That's why some files show as having been previously downloaded when they have not been.

Check this post for some examples of typical spam: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/downlo...note-them.html

As Blackhorse 70V suggests, Bitzi lookup is a good way of checking a file's validity & also its quality. :)

Honestly, I have tried every which way but loose on the filter. It simply does not work. I do know what I am doing to this extent. It does not work. I have been using it to mark the exact same 3462, and the two others that show up as 270.6, and another which does not come to mind right now. These are only three files and it never learns them, ever! I am not arguing with you, merely Limewire. I have never had the filter work. As I replied to your reply in the other forum, they clearly have no desire to make this work. It is simple. If Limewire can follow a file that I have downloaded, it can certainly follow a file that I have marked as garbage time and time again. Learning or not, it needs to be sent back to kindergarten.

Lord of the Rings November 27th, 2008 10:19 AM

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Perhaps you have the filter strength set too strong or weak, or your early training of the filter was corrupted. You can set it to forget previous training in your Junk filter settings.

What I do is then deliberately search junk. ie: search random typed terms like wlaey490cgbks6yy & then junk the search results. I do it with several such different random search terms & repeat the searches & 'get more results' function. Also do it for different 'types' of searches including 'All Types'.

My junk filter setting is set very close to relaxed but this is for me, others may find it better a little further toward stricter.

Then when doing 'normal' searches, you 'will' need to set good files as not junk until it learns they are not junk. The filter will 'never' get it 100% correct which is why it's always a good reason to double-check. I always arrange search results by file size to assist myself doing this. And some searches the filter does it all correctly, some it still makes a few mistakes. It is a continuous process. :)


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