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crohrs March 27th, 2002 09:54 AM

Download ANY/ALL
 
LimeWire is thinking of removing the "Download ANY" button, leaving just "Download ALL". Our theory is that few people really understand the difference and most people just use "Download ALL". What do you think?

-Christopher Rohrs

Unregistered March 27th, 2002 10:02 AM

Really? I always use the "Download Any" button.
That's the only way I ever seem to get "Downloading from (n) hosts" and fast downloads.

I am not clear on the difference between the two buttons, though, and wouldn't really care if there were only one.

Morgwen March 27th, 2002 10:02 AM

Hmm...

if you explain the option "download any" the user would know if it usefull or not!

Morgwen

phi March 28th, 2002 03:49 PM

if you select multiple files (for example if 3 files come up you want to dl) you can select them and click DOWNLOAD ALL, this will bring all 3 into your download area.. clicking DOWNLOAD ANY in this situation will only designate one of the three files to go into your download area and will give you messages of "you are already d/l.. blah" when you try to d/l the others

bink March 28th, 2002 08:12 PM

Whoa. It definitely does not work that way for me. It behaves exactly the same as Download Any: tries to get info from all of the copies of the file, sometimes all at once (i.e."Downloading from (n) hosts"). I've *never* seen more than one copy of a file in my download area, and I've definitely hit that button!

I say lose the button, and expend the programming energy on fixing the browse host feature.


(Mac 8.6 running LWPro 2.3, and it worked the same way in the previous version)

Cyberman March 30th, 2002 10:17 AM

I usually use DOWNLOAD ALL - I donīt really see where the use of the DOWNLOAD ANY is. Since I want the file to be on my hdd the second before I clicked, I load from all possible sources.

Wolfilash April 1st, 2002 05:37 PM

Re: Download ANY/ALL
 
Quote:

Originally posted by crohrs
LimeWire is thinking of removing the "Download ANY" button, leaving just "Download ALL". Our theory is that few people really understand the difference and most people just use "Download ALL". What do you think?

-Christopher Rohrs

So if I pick a file that is grouped and use Download ALL that will use the swarmed download? If so, then get rid of "Download ANY" but I would go further and just name the button "Download" or maybe "Download if you feel lucky punk".
:) Well, I'm serious about the first choice.

crohrs April 2nd, 2002 07:18 AM

Here's the difference...
 
As I expected, Download ANY/ALL caused much confusion. Here's the difference.

Download ANY puts all of the selected files into a single "smart downloader". The smart downloader will prioritize the files by speed and try them one at a time until any succeeds. If multiple files are exactly the same, it will swarm that file.

Download ALL puts each selected file into its own smart downloader and starts them all. Exception: any files in a search result group are put in a single smart downloader, like in the Download ANY case. Again, if a smart downloader has multiple identical files, it will swarm.

Note that search result grouping is approximate. So "aaaaa.txt" (1000KB) and "aaaaaa_.txt" (1001KB) will be put in the same group since they're SIMILAR. However, LimeWire will only swarm if two files are exactly the SAME. In other words, "same" files are (almost) always put in a single search result group, though entries within a group are not necessarily "same".

Typically "ANY" is useful if you're looking for something specific. For example, say I searched for "othello" and get back "shakespeare - othello.html" and "othello - shakespeare.html". LimeWire won't group these file as similar. However, either one will do for me, so I select both and hit Download ANY. This is more polite then simply starting both downloads in parallel, and it results in fewer incomplete files. Also, LimeWire won't let you start two downloads in parallel if the files have the same name.

Typically "ALL" is useful if you're looking for lots of things. For example, say I searched for "shakespeare" and get back "hamlet.html" and "othello.html". I want both files, so I select them all and hit Download ALL. Two downloaders start. Note that I could have also hit "ANY" for the first file then "ANY" for the second file.

-Christopher Rohrs

Unregistered April 8th, 2002 11:18 AM

Just combine the two buttons into a "Download" button.

GiggleSpit April 9th, 2002 01:07 AM

Being uncertain about whether or not the button will get the file I want, I never use either. When I want a file, I double click it. I sure wish it worked the way it used to, when you could try to download multiple files of the exact same name at the same time, and once one actually started, or you see which one is going the fastest, you could kill the others. Why not bring that back? I hate getting the message "You are already downloading...", especially when I am NOT already downloading, but the program is simply waiting for the download to begin. Why not allow multiple instances until one starts, or if you start another because your download stalls or is going to slow, it could automatically cancel the current one IF the new one goes better. Leaving the canceled one there just in case you did it by accident.

dhahran_ksa April 10th, 2002 09:21 AM

Same Functinality?
 
So, let me get this straight. In the case of grouped search resulta, "download any" and "download all" work the same?

I think the answer to the question "Do we combine the buttons" is self evident. Yes.

crohrs April 11th, 2002 07:06 AM

dhahran_ksa: yes, if you select a group, download any/all do the same thing. The power of "download any" comes when the grouper was unable to group similar things.

We're probably going to take out the download any button in the next release. We may create an expert option to re-enable it for users who miss it.

-Christopher Rohrs

Unregistered April 11th, 2002 06:35 PM

Hey, as long as you leave the one that swarms, everybody's happy!

shulet1 April 24th, 2002 03:40 AM

The choice causes too much confusion
 
I personaly have never seen the need to use the download any button. I think it causes more confusion than it's worth. Just tweak the download all option, rename it to download, and do away with download any.

gfox April 24th, 2002 07:37 PM

i use All, but often, after i have successfully downloaded one of the files, some of the others remain in "incomplete" and i have to manually delete them.

MamiyaOtaru May 24th, 2002 04:04 PM

Wow. Now that I understand what it is for, the download any button is (or would have been, it's gone now) incredibly useful.

Say I'm looking for a rare song, and I get results in 6 different bitrates. I could start them all, and cancel the rest when one finishes, or I could use the download any button. It would then try them all until one finishes. It's brilliant. Really. I hope you put the option back in. Or maybe I will myself. Wish I'd known what it did earlier.

MamiyaOtaru May 25th, 2002 11:13 PM

Well, I got tired of waiting (two days ;) ) and reenabled it myself.

My personal version of AquaLime now has the download any button once more, in all its glory.

thanks for the explanation of what it does, I don't want to be without it now.

GiggleSpit May 26th, 2002 01:35 AM

Hey, you know what? I just noticed they took out the "Clear Inactive" button for the downloads. it's still there for uploads though. I am going to put that back for sure! Just have not had the time as of late :(

Freiluft May 28th, 2002 03:39 AM

I want the "download any" feature returned. Say you have a partial download you wish to resume. You do a search and you get five hits. Four have the same name, the fifth a different one. If you connect to the fifth, then the download will start as a new file. I have used the "ungroup" feature, selected the ones I wanted, then hit the "download any" to make sure that only those files with identical names are grouped together in a swarmed dl.


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