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dsoslglece June 10th, 2008 03:09 AM

security questions
 
Hi all,
I'm quite a long time since, a user of this forum and of LimeWire, appart of the fact that for quite a while I did prefer to use Azureus for UL and mlDonkey and later Pando for DL...
But now, I discovered Phex and i2p, and so I'd really like to see how it works, and what kind of a security one can get...

Phex looks frightfully simple indeed, and I'd like to know if it is always securely connected to i2p... I mean if one gets a file to download from Gnutella, and if it is not a specified i2p file, how does it come ? securely through i2p, or just like by using LimeWire...

I know for instance that using i2p with the browser's gui, one has to look for i2p torrents... otherwise they are not secure (at least I read it)... the only trouble being to find those torrents (Demonoid doesn't seem to indicate them)
Maybe those questions are already answered somewhere, if such is the case, please, sorry, just indicate to me where to look at...
Thanks anyway

arne_bab June 11th, 2008 03:12 AM

Welcome to the Phex forums!

If you want to use Phex with i2p, you should get i2Phex from forum.i2p ~ View topic - I2Phex testing binary release (3.2.0.103.0 or build 0)

This is a seperate build of Phex, and when you use it, you can ONLY connect via i2p, so you are secure from errors which might compromise your privacy.

If you use the regular Phex, you won't connect via i2p, since we thought it best for our users safety and for the development process to create two seperate programs which share a source repository.

If you use i2Phex, you are connected to an anonymous Gnutella network via i2p.

If you use Phex, you are connected to the non-anonymous Gnutella network.

Please post, if you have additional questions!

Best wishes,
Arne

dsoslglece June 11th, 2008 03:40 AM

Thanks Arne_bab...
Thats sounds an excellent idea to have two separate apps... in fact, I was searching widely for i2phex, and got only Phex, the only i2phex I'd been able to get is an exe, ans being on os x, I'm not sure that I could open it, even using mono... another solution could be possibly to open it on my virtual XP Pro, but then, I'm not sure it could be exported to the OS X system and work...

Isn't there some other format, for example in java, or maybe something made for some close Unix cousins like Linux, and that could be adapted with not to much trouble to OS X ?
Of course, it may already exist a mac version... but where ?...

waiting for more info, I will already try what comes out of the version you indicated on the link above, for Linux...

arne_bab June 11th, 2008 04:21 AM

Phex is Java, and so is i2Phex, so you should be able to easily adapt it.

I normally only use the SVN version (that's the one the developers currently work on).

For the installation in Linux, please read the first post in the forum thread I posted (the general procedure is still, not to provide a simple "click and I will run" button, because i2Phex is still in testing, and we don't want people who aren't willing to read through a forum post to run an i2Phex and stumble over bugs but unwilling to post them find in the thread).

For it to work, you need i2p running, but I assume you already have it :) : I2P Anonymous Network - I2P

It _should_ work on OSX in the same way it does in Linux, but we don't yet have a Mac tester, so I can't make promises on that.

dsoslglece June 11th, 2008 04:44 AM

Well, it sounds great, only, I just come back from quite a few unsuccesfull trips to different place where one is suppose to speak about and deliver i2phex, including the official site, where one mentions the new i2phex able to do this and that, but where the only link is just to download Phex...
besides all that, I'm not to experienced in installing through Terminal, but I did it for mlDonkey and some libraries using source documents, and also conducted some tests for a programmer to bring to mac StealthNet web UI, and so, if you need someone for that sort of work, I'd be perfectly willing to apply my good will to it.

My main question now is where to obtain the "i2phex_3.2.0.103.0.tgz" archive

arne_bab June 12th, 2008 02:05 AM

There is no official site for i2Phex. The only official place is the forum I posted the link to.

Can you use subversion?

Then you can just checkout the i2phex branch in the Phex Subversion repository.

$ svn co https://phex.svn.sourceforge.net/svn...ranches/i2phex

About subversion: http://wiki.phex.org/Subversion

dsoslglece June 12th, 2008 04:22 AM

If I understand well (I went to see first the subversions repository) there are there, all the steps of the evolution of for instance Phex...
And, there was also a mention of iphex... I suppose since it was evolved from a common trunk... but is there at some place the necessary steps for compiling iphex with that... for instance, at what point of the evolution of Phex should one start before one takes a turn in direction to iphex... I will study those documents again, with allention, but I must admit that at first glance, it looks a bit tough for my small level in compiling something...
Of course, and beside all that, does it mean that iphex is not yet published and distributed yet?
the funny thing is that people keep talking about it, and that is giving the impression that it is much in use...

arne_bab June 12th, 2008 12:26 PM

i2phex is already published and in use, but it is only published via the anonymous i2p network, so we can avoid having thousands of users jump on and be disappointed, that there are still some bugs.

To compile i2phex, just checkout the i2phex branch:

Code:

$ svn co https://phex.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/phex/phex/branches/i2phex
and then just start the script "build-and-run"

Code:

./build-and-run
Voila, your i2phex builds and starts.


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